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Other iPhone 14....All the Wrong Moves
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I thought iPhone fatigue would set in with the iPhone 13, but I am seeing the opposite. On the lightrail/bus, at work I am seeing a mix of iPhone 12 and 13. What this tells me is, people will upgrade no matter what. There is a ripe market of iPhone 8/X/XS users and Apple is gonna get them to upgrade. The cycle will repeat itself with the iPhone 15 which will get those iPhone 11 and 12 users.
Apple has a key group of people working on the phone to make it appealing enough to generate upgrades: anthropologist, sociologist, designers, engineers. These people have a lock on reading the market. Internally, I think its a all heads down from the CEO to the iOS engineers about making each iPhone going forward enticing enough. The rest of the industry ensures its success: the Carriers, third party app devs, accessory makers.
Sure, the iPhone 14 will not appeal to everyone, including those who bought a 13, 12, 11 and earlier. But it will sell really well.
Apple has a key group of people working on the phone to make it appealing enough to generate upgrades: anthropologist, sociologist, designers, engineers. These people have a lock on reading the market. Internally, I think its a all heads down from the CEO to the iOS engineers about making each iPhone going forward enticing enough. The rest of the industry ensures its success: the Carriers, third party app devs, accessory makers.
Sure, the iPhone 14 will not appeal to everyone, including those who bought a 13, 12, 11 and earlier. But it will sell really well.
the only wrong move it will be when Apple will say that the iphone 14 has the same SoC as the last year at the same starting price like last year..so compared to all of those last generations, the iphone 14 will have shorter life than all other new iphones
i think one of the most longevity support had to go with the iphone 6s, and now the shortest support will go to the iphone 14, again at the same price. I am a pro iphone user, but for those who want the cheaper iphone is not right for them to get an 1 year old SoC...not even samsung did that...even Note in the past got an 6months old SoC that came first in the galaxy S series, so not a year
Yes, maybe Apple will tell us that the A15 will be the pro SoC with all the 5 gpu cores and not the 4 gpu cores from the iphone 13..but still, Apple should place A16 in the iphone 14 or if they have trouble doing that because of chip shortages they should at least make the starting price at $100 less
i think one of the most longevity support had to go with the iphone 6s, and now the shortest support will go to the iphone 14, again at the same price. I am a pro iphone user, but for those who want the cheaper iphone is not right for them to get an 1 year old SoC...not even samsung did that...even Note in the past got an 6months old SoC that came first in the galaxy S series, so not a year
Yes, maybe Apple will tell us that the A15 will be the pro SoC with all the 5 gpu cores and not the 4 gpu cores from the iphone 13..but still, Apple should place A16 in the iphone 14 or if they have trouble doing that because of chip shortages they should at least make the starting price at $100 less
I disagree about the lifespan of the phone. Modern SOCs are so powerful that there’s no reason the 12/13 cannot go on for 10+ years. If Apple lessen the support on these devices, it’ll simply be due to planned obsolescence. The 6S/SE1 can handle iOS 15 fine and these phones are many times weaker than modern phones… the added demands for iOS are reducing year after year as the platform appears to be approaching maturity.
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im talking about Apple support ...so a brand new iphone 14 at the same starting price like last years iphone 13 will have the same support as the iphone 13/SE..so 1 year lost
I am talking about support also. If Apple continue to support the 12-14 lines for a considerable time such as 10 years, the lost year will be neither be here nor there.
Someone mentioned that the A15 in the standard 14 will be the Pro version which Apple may decide to support for an extra year over the standard A15.
Also, the A8 in my iPad Mini 4 supports iOS 15 and the A9 in my 6S & SE supports iOS 15. Both will be unsupported at the same time on the release of iOS 16.
keep dreaming that apple will offer ios upgrades for 10 years
Its clear they focus in general on SoC
The iphone 14 will not support iOS25 =))
Like i said iphone 6s, like yours has the most lifetime ...and when was announced had a brand new SoC and not "last generation"
Dont expect iphone 6s to support iOS 16
So in general Apple offers around 6 years for a brand new , just released iphone.
The iphone 14 will have 5 years support like the iphone 13 and iphone SE
PS: the A15 from pro models the difference is just 1 extra gpu core...and for iOS support that doesnt matter. For apple to make iphone 14 support 6 years of upgrades , they need, if they stick with A15, to add extra Ram also..if they do then the support of the iphone 13 will end 1 year sooner than the iphone 13 pro and iphone 14 then
When you create a precedent for over a decade...your customers expect exactly that at bare minimum
To offer a generation old SoC with a brand new iphone at the same price point is a beginning of a price cut again, and i bet the others like Samsung will follow like always and it will become a trending factor
To offer a generation old SoC with a brand new iphone at the same price point is a beginning of a price cut again, and i bet the others like Samsung will follow like always and it will become a trending factor
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I was being hypothetical. The demands of iOS appear to have slowed down due to the hardware far outreaching the software. On iOS 9, you could tell the difference between it running on a new 6S a 6 and the 5S. As current SOCs are overpowered, the difference between the 13, 12 and 11 are imperceptible.
This means that the newer chips should hypothetically be supported for longer than 6 years.
I am not defending Apple either. I would suggest that those who have the 12/13 keep their phones and do not upgrade unless they are Pro users. I would suggest 99% of people cannot tell the difference between an A12 or an A15 as they are normal users who are unable to utilise the full potential of the SOC.
I think the pill hole is just for the sake of aesthetics as the notch is now 5 years old now. It offers nothing of any substance really. I won’t be buying a 14 pro anyway and am thinking about a 13 Pro once the prices come down a bit and retailers are getting rid of their inventory. The standard 14 is supposedly getting the A15 chip again and I think for consumers like me, we can get Pro features for a similar price.
iPhones and all smartphones in general are at a peak point and we can’t expect huge differences each year. Even the chips are so powerful that normal users will never tell the difference between an A14, 15, 16 etc. I think iPhone enthusiasts see things a bit differently perhaps, and obsess over minor details but I think the fact iPhones change so little each year means they stay up to date for longer.
i hope you are saying just for the saying being and just for talking because if you, as a customer, accept this then Apple will go even further old SoC, old camera, old design, same ram sam display but at the same price
So again, this should not be the beginning of a stupid trend when you get an old generation phone at the same price
I hope people will buy the iphone 13 (if the rumours with the 14 become true) and if iphone 13 is discontinued , customers should stay on their phone longer, they should not vote YES to this trend with their wallets
This is just another attend for apple to spend the extra money to buy the PRO
Maybe Apple will do the right thing and iphone 14 will start from $699 (like the current 13 mini starts) and not from $799 since the 6.1" starts from there
If iphone 14 with old SoC starts from $799 then its embarrassing even for Apple and they should erase the iphone standard line-up and offer just the SE and the Pro models renamed again in iPhone and iPhone Plus
If iphone 14 with old SoC starts from $799 then its embarrassing even for Apple and they should erase the iphone standard line-up and offer just the SE and the Pro models renamed again in iPhone and iPhone Plus
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you are doing the right thing, nobody should buy at the peak price the iphone 14 with the same A15 as the iphone 13 pro
iPhone 13 pro as over all it will be the same as the ip 14 but different price ...cant believe Apple is going to do that for the first time
In the last 4-5 years the iphones like you said they changed so little each year and now Apple wants to remove the last change...the SoC...This way Apple in 5 years will says, customers dont need the Ram, we should start to remove some of it so from 4gb of Ram lets start to offer 3gb of ram at the same price point
seriously, I've never heard more whining about a phone that is not even released yet. Oh no, it might contain this or this, horrible, but then again, it might contain this, is there no humanity?
I get called a noob because I’m stating the “normal” option of not buying a phone every year? My god you fanboy types of people are the absolute worst.
I very much hope that Apple misses some iPhones, and since the updates are incremental this error could then affect versions, so you can finally see a drop in sales and stocks, so you can get your creativity in motion and be able to buy shares for what they are worth.
Little speculators grow up. ?
Little speculators grow up. ?
I see this comeback all the time, but it doesn't really make much sense. It's the nature of the complaint that matters. For example, if students in a class are all whining and complaining about their assignments and the teacher tells them to stop whining and complaining, does that mean the teacher is a hypocrite and "whining and complaining" about the whining and complaining? No, because his complaint is about the attitudes of negativity whereas the students' complaints are over legitimate work that shouldn't be complained about.
That being said, I have no problem with the OP complaining about tech on a tech forum. I'm not a fan of the "pill" design myself. The only criticism I had is the idea of switching from Apple to Android merely over the aesthetics of the iPhone.
Exactly. Every iphone release is not targeted towards the previous year or two owners. They 14 will be targeting those with the iPhone 11 or older. People always think there is no significant upgrade YoY, but for those with 3 year old iphone or older, the upgrade can be quite significant enough to be worth the upgrade.
“My whining and complaining is better than your whining and complaining!”
So that justifies personal attacks and comments that are far more juvenile than anything the OP said? (Not from you specifically, but from other “complain about the complainers” in this thread). Because in that case the complaint would be about their hostile and juvenile attitude, which is a completely legitimate complaint.
Well Foldable smartphones are overpriced trash. if apple would make a foldable iphone i wouldnt even buy it. Thats stuff is still in infancy and very fragile. Also wat the hell is even the purpose of those phones? Combining a phone and a tablet together? Just use a Phone for phone stuff and buy a tablet for tabled stuff