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"Most probably finance the phone either thru Apple or a carrier. I have the money to buy things out right but when given the choice of payments and 0% finance, that is an easy choice for me. Apple also gives you 24 months to pay. A higher cost of the phone even at $100-200 ($200 = $8.33 x24) is still small when divided into 24 months."
That's exactly how they want you to think about it.
See, this guy gets it! ☝🏻
 
Shocker. Tim Apple is currently rubbing his miserly hands together and smiling his creepy weirdo smile. To be fair though, you are buying a super fantastic, out of this world "new" iPhone with an updated chip and better cameras. Design changes...nah! 🤣
Gotta pay for all that R&D on the Reality Pro somehow..
 
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That rumor is fake. No battery increase. Also the base model is now 256GB so it's kinda obvious. Before you was buying from 128GB.

Like I said for the big amount of "happy people" about 256GB base:

While for me 256GB is the minimum, I see nothing positive about that. I mean, if they got rid of 128GB, than add 2TB. But they did nothing. So it's step backwards. At the end less people will get it, because of the higher base price. For sure many don't want more than 128GB.
Exactly especially if 256GB costs the same as it did before. All you did now is give the people who can use 128 no choice to save money. Same thing when people complain about base Macbooks. Unless they lower the base price it just eliminates choices.
 
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"Most probably finance the phone either thru Apple or a carrier. I have the money to buy things out right but when given the choice of payments and 0% finance, that is an easy choice for me. Apple also gives you 24 months to pay. A higher cost of the phone even at $100-200 ($200 = $8.33 x24) is still small when divided into 24 months."

See, this guy gets it! ☝🏻
It's boiling the frog. In 10+ years we will look and see we are paying double or worse a month now.
 
"Most probably finance the phone either thru Apple or a carrier. I have the money to buy things out right but when given the choice of payments and 0% finance, that is an easy choice for me. Apple also gives you 24 months to pay. A higher cost of the phone even at $100-200 ($200 = $8.33 x24) is still small when divided into 24 months."

See, this guy gets it! ☝🏻
Apple Canada started charging 8% financing last month. The 0% financing will no longer be an option everywhere very soon, if not already gone.
 
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I get that the cost for everything is going up but my concern is it not going back down when things get better.

This is not how pricing works. Even the FED is only hoping to bring inflation back down to 2% annually. That's a measure of how fast prices increase YOY. In other words, the FED assumes in a 2% increase as "ideal" or "normal." The assumption is every 50* years, prices double... and that's accepted as "normal" or even "target."

If they are able to get inflation back "under control," it will mean price increases are back towards that old "normal" or perhaps a re-defined new "normal" at a higher percentage if it is eventually determined that 3% or 4% should be normal.

The ONLY way prices "come back down" is when people as a group vote with their wallets... that is, choosing to keep their money vs. buying whatever thing they want even at a new higher price. If enough buyers reject price increases, sellers cut prices to get the revenue tap turned back on again. But key to that is many buyers showing they actually value the money more than the stuff being pitched at higher prices.

This thread is filling with people complaining about a rumored price increase and then describing how they will get the new iPhone anyway: trade-ins, contracts, sell the old one to buy the new one, financing, etc. From Apple's perspective, they simply see price acceptance of the new higher price... pat each other on the back, earn even more bonus money, report "another quarter of record revenue and profit" to the shareholders, etc. In short: increasing price looks like a sound, very fruitful strategy to a seller when the market just pays ANY price. Only one group action alters that.

*not really as long as 50 years because the 2% is based on each prior year, so the relative increase in year 4 is greater than the increase in year 2 measured in dollars. The doubling in dollars "goal" is shorter than 50 years. I used 50 to keep the math simple.
 
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This is not how pricing works. Even the FED is only hoping to bring inflation back down to 2% annually. That's a measure of how fast prices increase YOY. In other words, the FED assumes in a 2% increase as "ideal" or "normal." The assumption is every 50 years, prices double... and that's accepted as "normal" or even "target."

If they are able to get inflation back "under control," it will mean price increases are back towards that old "normal" or perhaps a re-defined new "normal" at a higher percentage if it is eventually determined that 3% or 4% should be normal.

The ONLY way prices "come back down" is when people as a group vote with their wallets... that is, choosing to keep their money vs. buying whatever thing they want even at a new higher price. If enough buyers reject price increases, sellers cut prices to get the revenue tap turned back on again.

This thread is filling with people complaining about a rumored price increase and then describing how they will get the new iPhone anyway: trade-ins, contracts, sell the old one to buy the new one, financing, etc. From Apple's perspective, they simply see price acceptance of the new higher price... pat each other on the back, earn even more bonus money, report "another quarter of record revenue and profit" to the shareholders," etc. In short: increasing price looks like a sound, very fruitful strategy to a seller when the market "just pays."
I never understand why they complain about stuff like high end tech. Complain about stuff like groceries. Diesel had stopped substantially since the peak, and grocery prices still climb. And you can only boycott needs like food for so long before starvation. Or you need to find somewhere you can hunt/fish and be good at it.
 
Sure you can. I've already stated my case. It's time to move along. And you enjoy being in that "buy now, pay later" mindset. I'm sure it will serve you well. 😂
Bridging the gap, I’m not surprised about what happened in the financial crisis in 2008.
Besides, people it’s not aware about what happens if you don’t attend a single payment, and it can happen to anyone.
 
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I never understand why they complain about stuff like high end tech. Complain about stuff like groceries. Diesel had stopped substantially since the peak, and grocery prices still climb. And you can only boycott needs like food for so long before starvation. Or you need to find somewhere you can hunt/fish and be good at it.

Hunt/fish/farm/barter/co-op. Where there's a will, there's a way... even with essentials like food.
 
Other sources have said they are simply cutting out the 128 GB model. So while the entry price will be going up, the actual value prop will not be going down, it will be staying the same. Which is fine for me since I only buy the 256 GB model.
 
Buy the phone outright or have payments each month for two years and you choose payments? To each their own but I buy my phones outright because I can with ease. Even at 0% interest I would never "finance" a cell phone. It makes no sense. I will not be beholden to any of these swine.
Pay for half of the device and upgrade every year. No dealings with scammers or PayPal’s garbage six month bailout clause for buyers. It makes sense to me.
 
The only 3nm processors in 2023 are Appleʼs A17 and M3 — they are expensive to produce, which explains the higher price of the iPhone. However, they are worth every penny.
Dunno because in the past when chips have shrunk I’ve never seen any difference in battery .Performance gains aren’t that much noticeable anymore either
 
If someone has to finance their cell phone, then it is easy to understand why they are in a poor financial situation. I take no pity on these people. Ever heard of saving, or working harder to make more money? And I'm not looking down on anyone. People can live their lives however they choose. But that doesn't mean I'm not going to call people out on making poor decisions. That's just what I do. I also reward people for making good decisions.
Or maybe just maybe they are using the upgrade program which is what the financing was for in the first place. If Apple guaranteed a 50% trade in each year I would just buy the phone outright. The used market has become scammers paradise the good websites for selling are all backed by PayPal which lets scammers go after full refunds up to six months after an item is sold.
 
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Or maybe just maybe they are using the upgrade program which is what the financing was for in the first place. If Apple guaranteed a 50% trade in each year I would just buy the phone outright. The used market has become scammers paradise the good websites for selling are all backed by PayPal which lets scammers go after full refunds up to six months after an item is sold.

I agree with that, and the upgrade program is unique. If you know you want a new phone every single year, it is a no brainer.
 
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Here it comes. All the iPhone 8 users complaining about price and lack of innovation
If iPhone 8 users think that, then they need to re-read the "iPhone 8 vs. iPhone 15 Pro Max: What to Expect if You've Waited to Upgrade" piece
 
I continue to be amazed at how we seem to believe we need to have a supercomputer in our pocket. The specs on these devices far exceed many PCs. I would bet that the vast majority of users of these phones (and iPads, too) don't even scratch the surface of the processor and graphics capability. It's cool perhaps from an engineering standpoint how powerful these devices are (even the low-end phones), but do we really need this...?

...and pay extra for it?
 
Prices go up, that's life. If $100 or so is such a hit to you, you can't afford an iPhone to begin with.
 
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Apple might be doing this to spite me, I skipped 6 revisions since the iPhone X was released and Apple knows I will be getting the 16 Pro Max, so they are getting enough out of me because they know I won't upgrade for another 8 years. Smart Tim, very smart!
 
I continue to be amazed at how we seem to believe we need to have a supercomputer in our pocket. The specs on these devices far exceed many PCs. I would bet that the vast majority of users of these phones (and iPads, too) don't even scratch the surface of the processor and graphics capability. It's cool perhaps from an engineering standpoint how powerful these devices are (even the low-end phones), but do we really need this...?

...and pay extra for it?
Feel free to buy the new SE when it comes out??
 
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