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This has got to be the worst take I've ever read in my decades of using Macrumors.

Seriously, you're defending Apple making things harder to fix to save a buck? You do know that Apple charges what the market will bear, right? It doesn't matter how much money they save in manufacturing; the price will remain exactly the same because that's what we are willing to pay for it. No more, no less.

The worst thing we can have right now is more and more disposable, un-fixable tech that ends up in landfills because a company wanted to save a buck in manufacturing. At least Apple is making a tiny effort to make things better. Now if only they'd stop serializing components and requiring proprietary tools to pair the new parts together as has been seen recently. Maybe they'll back off on this which would be great for us all.
Who said anything was unfixable?
 
We folks in the USA never see the growing mountain of our electronic discards as we ship it all to third world countries to disassemble. Perish the thought that US folks would get their hands dirty or their lives endangered doing that kind of work.

We put our trash bins out at home and a truck comes by and picks up the trash up and it just disappears from view and our perception of how much we create weekly.

I have bought a new iPhone annually for years. Last year's model goes to my wife. Her old model goes to either one of her four daughters or one of my seven grandkids. It then gets passed around the family. We delay the arrival to the electronics cemetery as long as possible. But all electronics are supposed to be recyceled, right?
 
What does this have to do with "You clearly own nothing " argument?

I own 6 iPads from all the way back to iPad 3, a few macs, a few PCs, a few iPhones, 1 Pixel and so on. Tell me again I clearly own nothing.
It has everything to do with it. Your arguing against right to repair, which is honestly just an absolutely terrible take and an indefensible position as a consumer. By arguing against right to repair, you are effectively arguing for the "You will own nothing and be happy" mindset. The right to repair a device you have purchased is paramount to ownership. If you are not allowed to repair a device you spent your money on, you do not own that device, you are merely renting it from the company on their terms. This isn't about one person like Rossmann, it's about giving consumers the right to choose a repair shop that isn't owned or restricted by apple to repair their devices. The only thing you have had right so far is that most people won't repair phones themselves, but this as much about people repairing their own equipment as it is about allowing them the freedom to have their device repaired outside of Apple.
 
Yeah at the cost of being more expensive.

Congrats right to repair people, you just forced everyone to pay more for the iPhone just so that the few people like you and Louis Rossman can spend an hour swapping a battery to save a few bucks while everyone else continues using Apple service.

I knew this was going to happen.
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You can make up any excuse for any alleged price increases and convince yourself of anything if you try hard enough.

Create any reality you want. Easier to repair is an unassailable good thing.

Did the iPhone 14 go up in price? Yeah, I thought so.

Correlation does not equal causation.
 
Yeah at the cost of being more expensive.

Congrats right to repair people, you just forced everyone to pay more for the iPhone just so that the few people like you and Louis Rossman can spend an hour swapping a battery to save a few bucks while everyone else continues using Apple service.

I knew this was going to happen.
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Apple made the choice to make iPhone less repairable with every iteration. You can design a phone that is repairable without making it more expensive, but it is easier to just glue everything and make many people buy a new one instead of repairing the old one.
 
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Transistors and capacitors sticking above a computer board were easy to replace and I did. But todays circuit boards use components so small they could not even be held by and and soldered at the same time. The miniaturization of electronics killed the guy sitting in a repair shop with just a soldering iron and a pair of cutters.

I doubt these phone (iPad and or computer) circuit boards are repaired, they just put in a new one with a different serial number which often causes challenges for the rest of the device's parts.

An old saying by a rather rich man - John D Rockefeller - if you have to ask how much it costs to operate and or repair the item, you can not afford to buy it.

The original owner of Apple products is afforded the opportunity to pay for an extended warranty that covers repairs for two or three years (and now can be extended for longer for more money) depending on the device.

I would not trust my device to an unknown person in a mall stall to repair a multi thousand dollar item as I doubt the "store" has any insurance if the operator fries the device.

Your milage may vary.
 
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It has everything to do with it. Your arguing against right to repair, which is honestly just an absolutely terrible take and an indefensible position as a consumer. By arguing against right to repair, you are effectively arguing for the "You will own nothing and be happy" mindset. The right to repair a device you have purchased is paramount to ownership. If you are not allowed to repair a device you spent your money on, you do not own that device, you are merely renting it from the company on their terms. This isn't about one person like Rossmann, it's about giving consumers the right to choose a repair shop that isn't owned or restricted by apple to repair their devices. The only thing you have had right so far is that most people won't repair phones themselves, but this as much about people repairing their own equipment as it is about allowing them the freedom to have their device repaired outside of Apple.
This is the most hysterical post I've read on here by a long chalk.
 
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Apple made the choice to make iPhone less repairable with every iteration. You can design a phone that is repairable without making it more expensive, but it is easier to just glue everything and make many people buy a new one instead of repairing the old one.


There is so much trade off into making things "repairable".

Gluing parts allows for space optimization over using screws. It's also much faster to glue parts together over using screws during manufacturing. And easier to achieve IP68 water resistance (keyword easier). When you make things bigger and more difficult to manufacture, price goes up.

It's very simple to understand.
 
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Except those that consider filling landfills a problem. Oh and those with some common sense and therefore don't buy a new phone every time the battery goes bad.
Apple ships and recycles your old phones where the majority of materials are recovered, especially the battery. Landfills aren't an issue. Especially when it's not realistic to assume people throw away phones into the trash can because the battery capacity is low, despite it being perfectly functional. People with "common sense" would sell it. Terrible argument.
 
let me guess. Apple is making a token gesture to try and delay legislation about REAL repairability
 
Not going to agree to disagree on this one.
Ok let's continue arguing.

The argument was "You clearly own nothing".

Assuming it "has everything to do with it", I clearly own much more than "nothing" including many obsolete Apple devices and I still stand by what I said. Please point out to where I am wrong.
 
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