Except companies like apple, samsung or John Deere are, either directly or indirectly telling you where you can get your goods repaired. Apple for example doesn’t allow true tone to be activated on a replacement display unless it came from apple. Serialization of parts, or locking proper functionality of those parts behind software blocks is anti-consumer and is saying “hey, if you want this device fixed, you better come to us,“ and not say, rossmann repair group to give everyone’s ”favorite” example.
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iPhone 15 Pro Said to Be Easier to Repair Like iPhone 14 and 14 Plus
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Except companies like apple, samsung or John Deere are, either directly or indirectly telling you where you can get your goods repaired. Apple for example doesn’t allow true tone to be activated on a replacement display unless it came from apple. Serialization of parts, or locking proper functionality of those parts behind software blocks is anti-consumer and is saying “hey, if you want this device fixed, you better come to us,“ and not say, rossmann repair group to give everyone’s ”favorite” example.
Of course there are issues with metal backs and wireless charging. But I've had phones with plastic backs - it's not a "Premium" feeling but it's fine. Considering that the glass back doesn't have much function and is fragile, I'd go for plastic again.
I always thought a big glass apple cutout in the back surrounded by metal would be a good change
Ironically, that was pretty much the point, as Apple has been impeding 3rd party repairs, as they only want Apple Approved repairs. I believe the point of the old saying the original poster was referencing is that if only the vendor can ever do anything for your purchase, the vendor still owns it (or owns you.)
Personally, if I give Apple the benefit of the doubt, I can see their point, as knock off parts exist and if the item is poorly repaired, it makes them look bad if the repaired phone is re-sold. That said, I’ve had a lemon iPhone SE that made them look bad, and that was straight from them. I also replaced the screen on an iPhone 3GS years ago with a screen from eBay, and it was probably not quite as good as an Apple screen, but it was a cheap fix until I got a new phone, so it was nice to be able to do and I knew the source of the part wasn’t Apple. It gets more grey if you are buying a phone second hand and it might have been repaired, where caveat emptor.
I understand what you're saying, but the claim that Apple only want Apple approved repairs and the claim that only Apple can repair their products are two distinctly different things.
Only see benfits making the iphone easier to repair. I think ppl are so used to apple being rigid about it but give it a couple of years and ppl will be using the option to repair it more often than not.
It was going to be more expensive anyway. It hardly costs more to be doing something like this .. and something you should be doing anyway! Laptop battery repairs are now so complex they cost £200+ in the UK and take more than 2 weeks. It's not unreasonable to expect 'right to replace a battery' in 2023.
True, but serialized parts that block functionality certainly blur that distinction.
This is very nice to hear. As long as it doesn’t affect water/dust resistance, hopefully we also get easily removable batteries in the future.
You are missing the point. The independent mechanic is part of the right to repair. If you have to go to ONLY the company you purchased said product from or company approved dealer, you don't own the device effectively anymore because that one entity controls it. If you are arguing against right to repair, you are also arguing against independent mechanics, which IS the more important angle for the majority of people who won't repair things themselves.
Who is saying that you cannot repair your iPhone yourself? I have repaired my own iphones in addition to getting them repaired by 3rd parties. You're arguing against something that isn't in existence.
Making it easier to repair only benefits the repairman, not the typical Apple consumer.
The batteries ARE replaceable, but not by a hamfisted "repair guy". He cannot whip it in and charge $50-100. AND the parts cost more. Win-win for the repair shop, not for the iPhone owner.
You, don't like it?
Buy Android.
The batteries ARE replaceable, but not by a hamfisted "repair guy". He cannot whip it in and charge $50-100. AND the parts cost more. Win-win for the repair shop, not for the iPhone owner.
You, don't like it?
Buy Android.
You can, even today, get your iPhone repaired at any mobile phone repair shop you wish to use.
It's just not an easy-peasy job that a shade-tree repair man can do without breaking your iPhone and overcharge you for it. .
I’m not sure that is a great argument for, as it doesn’t really sound like you can get your iPhone “repaired” at any mobile phone repair shop… it sounds more like you can have them try to work on it. It reminds me of a great comedian named Darryl Lenox who had a bit about his eye surgeon saying his eye surgery “might work, but probably won’t”.
But that's the general trend the industry has been seeing lately and the reason for all the right to repair push. John Deere is one of the worst offenders in this regard, and other industries are heading down the same path, just not as far along as John Deere. Apple has been serializing parts so it can detect if it has a non-official display, or other part in the phone. That is anti-consumer as it limits the operation of the phone by disabling certain features just because you got a display from somewhere else or they didn't have the tool to pair them. I don't like being told what part I can and cannot use to fix something I have that is broken.
Oh, I agree.
But, it’s your responsibility to pick a repair shop that is capable of doing the job. If you pick someone walking down the street who “says” he can repair it it’s all on you, even if Apple makes it easier.
Twon similar events.
Would you take your new Mercedes to a mechanic who hangs a sign from a tree limb that says “all cars repaired cheap” or go to the dealer.
FWIW all a “surgeon” needs to “repair” your eye legally is a state Medical license and a facility that will let him/her operate. No board certification legally required. True statement. It’s YOUR responsibility to check the credentials of the “surgeon”.
Just like you should make sure the iPhone repair shop is certified by Apple.
But, it’s your responsibility to pick a repair shop that is capable of doing the job. If you pick someone walking down the street who “says” he can repair it it’s all on you, even if Apple makes it easier.
Twon similar events.
Would you take your new Mercedes to a mechanic who hangs a sign from a tree limb that says “all cars repaired cheap” or go to the dealer.
FWIW all a “surgeon” needs to “repair” your eye legally is a state Medical license and a facility that will let him/her operate. No board certification legally required. True statement. It’s YOUR responsibility to check the credentials of the “surgeon”.
Just like you should make sure the iPhone repair shop is certified by Apple.
So, don’t use OEM parts. And lose your warranty or buy Android.
FWIW auto manufacturers have OEM parts. Use generic at your own peril.
except if they generic part is not the cause of a failure, apple legally cannot void your warranty per the language of the magnussen-moss warranty act.
I think you missed the part where using non-OEM parts can result in some features no longer being available in the phone for no good reason other than because Apple decided to serialize the parts. The whole point of this is that people should be allowed to use non-OEM parts when the industry trend has been to keep people from using them. So I agree with what you said here, that’s the point. But also Apple should not void warranty in that case either unless it can be shown that the aftermarket part is the cause of the issue, or if the user broke it during repair. Any true manufacturer defect should still be covered.
So, what’s the problem? You and your shade tree mechanic can put in any part you wish. If you “break” a feature, that’s on you. You knew what you were doing.
Right to repair is a good thing, both on principle and for the environment.
The problem in this case is that apple is breaking functionality even if you repair the part correctly, simply to punish you for not paying a "genius" to do it.
That’s your opinion, and your principle, to which you are entitled. I disagree.
The environment, I’m not so sure. Most buy a new iPhone for the new features. If you want a simple phone, buy one. The old phones can be recycled and the mteri recycle. That you, or others chose not to recycle in on you, not me. I’d rather have working iPhones.