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The problem in this case is that apple is breaking functionality even if you repair the part correctly, simply to punish you for not paying a "genius" to do it.
Not really, you can have it repaired at a shop that uses OEM Apple parts and certified technicians, not necessarily at the Apple Store. So, get the real part and pay for it. Apple will even rent you the proper tools.
 
Not really, you can have it repaired at a shop that uses OEM Apple parts and certified technicians, not necessarily at the Apple Store. So, get the real part and pay for it. Apple will even rent you the proper tools.
However, Apple has set up their 3rd-party-OEM-repair system so it’s an insane financial risk for any shop to join, and incredibly expensive for a DIYer to rent. Malicious Compliance at its best.
 
Not really, you can have it repaired at a shop that uses OEM Apple parts and certified technicians, not necessarily at the Apple Store. So, get the real part and pay for it. Apple will even rent you the proper tools.
only if you have models that are covered uder the self repair program. if not, you are **** out of luck. If you go to an AASP, its basically the same as going to apple, considering apple sets the prices and sets strict limitations on the types of repairs an AASP is allowed to perform.
 
But that's the general trend the industry has been seeing lately and the reason for all the right to repair push. John Deere is one of the worst offenders in this regard, and other industries are heading down the same path, just not as far along as John Deere. Apple has been serializing parts so it can detect if it has a non-official display, or other part in the phone. That is anti-consumer as it limits the operation of the phone by disabling certain features just because you got a display from somewhere else or they didn't have the tool to pair them. I don't like being told what part I can and cannot use to fix something I have that is broken.
Nor do I, and I disagree with the trend also as it forms a sort of "lock in", but I cannot say that I have run into any issues in repairing my own iPhones or taking them elsewhere, although I will say that they are pigs to work on.
 
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Nor do I, and I disagree with the trend also as it forms a sort of "lock in", but I cannot say that I have run into any issues in repairing my own iPhones not taking them elsewhere, although I will say that they are pigs to work on
only if you have models that are covered uder the self repair program. if not, you are **** out of luck. If you go to an AASP, it’s basically the same as going to apple, considering apple sets the prices and sets strict limitations on the types of repairs an AASP is allowed to perform.
Seems like you just like to make up your own rules and expect others to comply. The world doesn’t work that way.
 
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only if you have models that are covered uder the self repair program. if not, you are **** out of luck. If you go to an AASP, its basically the same as going to apple, considering apple sets the prices and sets strict limitations on the types of repairs an AASP is allowed to perform.
Perhaps you should build and repair your own phone.
 
However, Apple has set up their 3rd-party-OEM-repair system so it’s an insane financial risk for any shop to join, and incredibly expensive for a DIYer to rent. Malicious Compliance at its best.
You said you wanted a repairable phone. You have one. Now you are complaining that you don’t like the phone.
Buy Android.
 
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You said you wanted a repairable phone. You have one. Now you are complaining that you don’t like the phone.
Buy Android.
Why should a person have to jump platforms simply because their preferred platform makes it a pain to repair things at a reasonable price. Everyone here likes apple products, but some of us are willing to say that the even though we like the company, it has some warts that need fixing. What you propose is not a solution.
 
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Right to repair is a good thing, both on principle and for the environment.
Not when it makes the device more expensive.

And right to repair is simply the hybrids of cars. You're only slowing down the effects of the root of the issue instead of actually solving the issue. If you're going to go for the environmental argument, you'd solve emissions from birth to death of the device.
 
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Except the serialization makes a stolen iPhone harder to part out by the thief.

And I go to Apple for repairs as they should know how to it properly and will fix their screw up with a replacement phone of same vintage and specs. Doubt the jobber in a mall kiosk would or have the resources do that if the repairs person messed up the phone.
 
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Except the serialization makes a stolen iPhone harder to part out by the thief.
so does just locking the device down. It doesn’t require some of the frankly asinine steps apple is taking. Take the Mac studio for example. If you swap out the flash storage modules between two Mac studios, the device will fail to boot even after attempting to reconfigure the device. Apple’s attempts to lock out third party repair border on unconscionable.
 
Why should a person have to jump platforms simply because their preferred platform makes it a pain to repair things at a reasonable price. Everyone here likes apple products, but some of us are willing to say that the even though we like the company, it has some warts that need fixing. What you propose is not a solution.
“even though we like the company, it has some warts that need fixing.‘
Thats a matter of opinion. What you see as a wart, I see as a feature. Just for grins, how many repairs of Apple products have you done? A product that needs repairs is probably many generations too old with few desirable features, so, is not worth repairing. That said, Apple now offers Apple Care by the month that will cover repairs as long as you make the payments. So, why should they go to the expense of ‘making it more “repairable’”?
 
Not when it makes the device more expensive.

And right to repair is simply the hybrids of cars. You're only slowing down the effects of the root of the issue instead of actually solving the issue. If you're going to go for the environmental argument, you'd solve emissions from birth to death of the device.
Even when it makes the device more expensive. Solving many of our environmental problems, or slowing them down, are all worthwhile results and are going to cost more than not doing anything. Trying to negate the environmental argument by saying that it's only a partial solution is to miss the point. Take that approach to its logical conclusion and we never start even trying to solve anything unless we are sure that we can finish it in one go. That's just not how progress works.
 
Even when it makes the device more expensive. Solving many of our environmental problems, or slowing them down, are all worthwhile results and are going to cost more than not doing anything. Trying to negate the environmental argument by saying that it's only a partial solution is to miss the point. Take that approach to its logical conclusion and we never start even trying to solve anything unless we are sure that we can finish it in one go. That's just not how progress works.
How much an effect on the “environment “ will your approach make? Do you have any idea?
 
Take that approach to its logical conclusion and we never start even trying to solve anything unless we are sure that we can finish it in one go. That's just not how progress works.

Saying hybrids are bad and money is better spent on pure EVs + renewable grid and researching closed loop lifecycle is quite literally the solution.

Similarly, right to repair is bad and money is better spent on closed loop iPhone production is quite literally the solution.

Maybe don't twist what I'm saying.
 
“even though we like the company, it has some warts that need fixing.‘
Thats a matter of opinion. What you see as a wart, I see as a feature. Just for grins, how many repairs of Apple products have you done? A product that needs repairs is probably many generations too old with few desirable features, so, is not worth repairing. That said, Apple now offers Apple Care by the month that will cover repairs as long as you make the payments. So, why should they go to the expense of ‘making it more “repairable’”?
I have done several. Did a few screen swaps and a glass swap on my iPhone 5s so that I had a black and gold model. Have also done motherboard replacements on a couple of previous MacBook pros I had. I prefer doing my own repairs because then I know exactly what is being done. And yeah they offer applecare, so what. It has more benefit to apple as a company by providing an additional stream of revenue while offering frankly marginal benefits to the consumer.
 
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I have done several. Did a few screen swaps and a glass swap on my iPhone 5s so that I had a black and gold model. Have also done motherboard replacements on a couple of previous MacBook pros I had. I prefer doing my own repairs because then I know exactly what is being done. And yeah they offer applecare, so what. It has more benefit to apple as a company by providing an additional stream of revenue while offering frankly marginal benefits to the consumer.
You would like ease of repair for your own benefit. Fine. I no longer build my own since I switched to the Apple ecosystem for connectivity so it’s of no benefit for me. If it cost me more, I’m not for it. Apple care is only of benefit if you need it. Sorta like insurance.
FWIW, I’ve assembled several machines based on the Asus ROG boards. I tended to “upgrade” periodically, replacing drives, memory, processors every 3 years or so. The Lan-Li Nautilus case was tho only constant. I still have dreams of building a Hakintosh. But now, I’m too lazy. With Apple, everything just connects.
That’s just me.
 
its not for my one benefit. Right to repair is a benefit to all consmers because it gives them real choices.
 
Again, we disagree. Right to repair MAY be of benefit to SOME consumers. It is of no benefit to me
 
So, what’s the problem? You and your shade tree mechanic can put in any part you wish. If you “break” a feature, that’s on you. You knew what you were doing.
The problem is that companies have been actively removing or making the option to use aftermarket parts more limited. Have you not been paying attention to this discussion at all? Seriously. It's like you want to argue for the sake of arguing rather than discussing the actual issue. That's why everyone is happy Apple is actually making things more repairable. But they have been doing it in a dumb way that makes it more difficult to do so without apples blessing which is why there is still criticism.

To add... if a feature is broken because apple decides to detect an aftermarket display and just choose to restrict 120Hz down to 60Hz, that doesn't count as me "breaking" a feature. Apple broke it because they don't want you buying aftermarket parts. If I accidentally jam my screwdriver into my camera module while repairing the screen and now the camera stops working, then yes it would be on me in that case; but no one is suggesting apple should be responsible for you messing up your self repair.
 
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Nor do I, and I disagree with the trend also as it forms a sort of "lock in", but I cannot say that I have run into any issues in repairing my own iPhones or taking them elsewhere, although I will say that they are pigs to work on.
I think the ease of working on them is really the only thing Apple is addressing here in this case. I have done battery replacements on iPhones myself before just fine too, but the serialization thing is newer so how easy it was to do and not have some feature disabled could also have to do with how new the phone you worked on was. The last iPhone I worked on myself was a 6S.
 
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