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I’ve upgraded pro maxes each year with thinkin of well I can upgrade and get the most for my trade in and get the new phone With the least out of pocket. Am I wrong? Can I get the same amount for my phone by skipping a year?
 
Apple would have done it a long time ago, but I think the M-series SoC may be using far too much power, which would drain the battery really fast.
You realize that the M-series chips are an enhanced A-series SoC ARM chip. Power requirements can be throttled to the device. You can increase/decrease core count and power requirements. The M-series is 3nm in die size thus efficiency vs heat is mute argument regarding using this an iPhone. ARM chips are meant to be designed as fanless/high efficiency chips.
 
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You realize that the M-series chips are an enhanced A-series SoC ARM chip. Power requirements can be throttled to the device. You can increase/decrease core count and power requirements. The M-series is 3nm in die size thus efficiency vs heat is mute argument regarding using this an iPhone. ARM chips are meant to be designed as fanless/high efficiency chips.
Unfortunately, the M-series SoC are designed with less consideration for power saving in mind and often has way more CPU/GPU cores. That's why the M1 to M4 are all intended for the iPad and Mac models with their larger cooling systems and/or way bigger battery packs. The smaller physical size of the iPhone means a full M-series SoC is out of the question even if you throttle down the CPU/GPU speed.
 
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A lot of negative Nancy’s here. A lot of people seem to forget that most people have their phones more than 1-2 years (I’m not one of them though 😅), so for many the 16’s and 16 Pro’s are a big upgrade. My wife is upgrading from a iPhone 13 to a 16 Pro. And I’m going big again with a move from 15 Pro to 16 Pro Max. 😁
 
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After the iPhone 16 models are official, I will use the Apple "comparison table" for the 14 Pro Max I have, 15 Pro MaX and 16 Pro Max. There will have to be some really big changes from the 14 series to justify the nearly $1,900 price for the top model with Apple Care + and sales tax.
I paid less than that for my MacBook Pro 14” M3 Pro with 3 years of Apple Care + and sales tax.
 
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Don't you know by now? Macrumors users all buy pants with tiny, tiny pockets.
Some of us are women and if you have a wife/gf/mother/sister you may know we have a lot of tiny useless pockets or no pockets at all lol I don’t think I have any pockets outside of a hoodie that can fit a pro max. Granted we tend to just carry handbags and chuck them in there but then we also have the “can’t use the small bags” problem. Ooof.
 
We need a good 15 Pro vs 16 Pro color comparison; Grandma's sock drawer vs Grandpa's sock drawer.

Some of us are women and if you have a wife/gf/mother/sister you may know we have a lot of tiny useless pockets or no pockets at all lol I don’t think I have any pockets outside of a hoodie that can fit a pro max. Granted we tend to just carry handbags and chuck them in there but then we also have the “can’t use the small bags” problem. Ooof.

My wife is a Pixel user and returned her Pixel 8 Pro for a regular after two days because of the size. She doesn't carry a handbag and uses yoga pants, suit jacket pockets or her laptop bag.

I can't imagine trying to carry the new Pro Max.
 
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that sounds intriguing, but I'll wait what apple actually announces cause last year rumors were saying 10x tele and it ended up 5x ...
My guess is Apple will do the same 2x fusion zoom when they switch to 48 MP telephoto sensor. Meaning you will be able to zoom 5x with optics and 48MP and 10x with sensor crop and 12MP.
 
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Another limp iPhone from tight wad Tim.

but but but its BUILT for AI!!!!!

except it never was and neither was the 15, their whole AI is a mess and lies.

but but but ANOTHER BUTTON!!!!!

😂 Sony Ericsson 2006 says hi

Pixel 9 Pro blows this heap of trash out the water

1000 nits brighter and better display
AI from the start including the EU
better design
better camera
16GB RAM
Fantastic battery life

See you in 2025 iPhone, hopefully this new slim/ultra actually innovates for the first time since the iPhone X.
 
so your hands gets also bigger and bigger, our pockets gets bigger and bigger..so you dont have anything against if Apple and Samsung goes with 8" displays in 4 years?! Lets get real, 6.5-6.7" its ok for a "big phone". When we draw a line since the borders now are at their limits...so you cannot go larger display without getting also larger physical dimensions
Lets travel with our phone not with mini tablets
As a guy, coming from a 11PM to a 15PM, having my phone on the front pocket is a bit uncomfortable and a struggle to walk in at times. Walking long distances can “restrict” my leg movement, and if I’m carrying things in my hands, it only adds to the discomfort. I can only imagine how these new phones will feel.

It would be nice if the overall footprint is the same, but an increase in screen size AND body length/width, yikes. That’s when we approach the territory of actual slim foldable phones that are as slim as the new iPads WHILE folded.
 
I really liked the size of the iPhone X, I thought 5.8" was the perfect size for my somewhat small hands. Upgrading to the 11 I did have a bit of buyer's remorse as 6.1" felt too large and with those bezels the phone was quite larger in the hand. I eventually got used to the 6.1" screen and enjoyed the 14 Pro with the current flat-edge design. 15 Pro was even better as it did feel smaller and lighter in the hand compared to 14 Pro.

2 years of incremental upgrades is not worth it for me (I was never going to upgrade, moreso speaking on the philosophy of bigger screens moving forward) so I'll wait for at least the 17. Hopefully the 17 Pro can do what 15 Pro did over 14 Pro and slim down the footprint while maintaining the 6.3" screen.
 


The iPhone 16 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro Max are Apple's latest flagship devices, offering over 45 changes and improvements compared to their predecessors. Here's everything that's changed.


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The iPhone 16 Pro is an incremental update in some respects, but there are still some important improvements to consider. Key enhancements include larger displays with thinner borders, faster and more efficient chips, and camera advancements like the new Camera Control button. The iPhone 16 Pro also boasts extended battery life, faster MagSafe charging, and improved audio recording capabilities.

This comparison guides you through each area of improvement, from design changes to technical enhancements, helping you decide if the iPhone 16 Pro is worth the upgrade.

Design and Displays

The iPhone 16 Pro builds on the iPhone 15 Pro's design by introducing several key enhancements, particularly in the display and materials. While both models feature a premium titanium frame, the iPhone 16 Pro comes with a new blasted titanium finish that offers a more refined texture. One of the most noticeable changes is the larger display size, with the iPhone 16 Pro increasing to 6.3 inches and the Pro Max to 6.9 inches, while also reducing the borders by 30%. The minimum brightness has been improved to just 1 nit, making the display better suited for low-light environments.

The iPhone 16 Pro also features a next-generation Ceramic Shield front glass that's twice as strong as the one on the iPhone 15 Pro. Apple has improved thermal management in the iPhone 16 Pro, leading to a 20% boost in heat dissipation, which helps sustain performance during demanding tasks. A new Desert Titanium color replaces the previous Blue Titanium option, and the other colors are slightly tweaked too.

iPhone 15 ProiPhone 16 Pro
Brushed titanium frameBlasted titanium frame
iPhone 15 Pro: 6.1-inch display
iPhone 15 Pro Max: 6.7-inch display
iPhone 16 Pro: 6.3-inch display
iPhone 16 Pro Max: 6.9-inch display
30% thinner borders around the display
~2–4 nits minumum brightness1 nit minimum brightness
More power efficient display
Ceramic Shield front glassNext-generation Ceramic Shield front glass (2x stronger)
Camera Control capacitive button with sapphire crystal cover
Improved thermal design for 20% improvement in heat management and better performance
Available in Black Titanium, White Titanium, Natural Titanium, and Blue Titanium finishesAvailable in darker Black Titanium, brighter White Titanium, lighter Natural Titanium, and new Desert Titanium finishes
Slimmer, fully recycled packaging


The design and display changes between the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 16 Pro are subtle. The most significant difference is perhaps 30% thinner bezels, which enables a slightly larger screen without making the device feel significantly bigger. For everyday users, these design and display changes may not feel like a game-changer, but some may appreciate better durability, lower brightness for nighttime use, or the new Desert Titanium finish.

Dimensions
The iPhone 16 Pro models introduces slight increases in height, width, and weight compared to the iPhone 15 Pro models. The changes in size are minimal, with the iPhone 16 Pro being 2.05% taller and 1.27% wider, while the Pro Max version sees similar small adjustments. The biggest change is in weight, where the iPhone 16 Pro is 6.42% heavier than the iPhone 15 Pro, which may be noticeable in hand, especially for users sensitive to weight.

iPhone 15 ProiPhone 16 Pro
HeightiPhone 15 Pro: 146.6 mm (5.77 inches)
iPhone 15 Pro Max: 159.9 mm (6.29 inches)
iPhone 16 Pro: 149.6 mm (5.89 inches) (+2.05%)
iPhone 16 Pro Max
: 163 mm (6.42 inches) (+1.94%)
WidthiPhone 15 Pro: 70.6 mm (2.78 inches)
iPhone 15 Pro Max: 76.7 mm (3.02 inches)
iPhone 16 Pro: 71.5 mm (2.81 inches) (+1.27%)
iPhone 16 Pro Max
: 77.6 mm (3.06 inches) (+1.17%)
WeightiPhone 15 Pro: 187 grams (6.60 ounces)
iPhone 15 Pro Max: 221 grams (7.81 ounces)
iPhone 16 Pro: 199 grams (7.03 ounces) (+6.42%)
iPhone 16 Pro Max
: 227 grams (7.99 ounces) (+2.71%)


The dimension changes are unlikely to be significant for most users, but those who prioritize portability and lightweight design may find the added 12 grams on the iPhone 16 Pro more noticeable. That said, the slightly larger frame does accommodate a bigger display and better heat management, which could be worth the trade-off for users who value those enhancements. If you're upgrading from an older, smaller device, these changes may stand out more, but for iPhone 15 Pro users, the physical differences are minor.

Chip and Connectivity

The iPhone 16 Pro's A18 Pro chip is a moderate upgrade over the A17 Pro in the iPhone 15 Pro, thanks to its use of TSMC's N3E enhanced 3nm process. This newer process improves both performance and power efficiency, making the A18 Pro 15% faster in CPU performance and 20% faster in GPU tasks. The real leap comes with hardware-accelerated ray tracing, which is now 2x faster, allowing for more realistic lighting and reflections in games and other graphic-intensive applications. Additionally, the 16-core Neural Engine in the iPhone 16 Pro benefits from 17% more memory bandwidth, improving AI tasks... Click here to read rest of article

Article Link: iPhone 15 Pro vs. iPhone 16 Pro Buyer's Guide: 45+ Upgrades Compared
Honestly i think Apple has run out of cool new ideas. A new camera button? Wow how innovative. I think Apple has gotten too safe in it's approach to new products/features. At least the competitors are doing foldables and flip style devices and trying something new. Really there's no need/incentive to upgrade yearly like there used to be
 
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And don’t forget all your icons are going to snap automatically to the hardest place to reach.

I still don’t understand why in the year 2024 Apple thinks people can’t handle placing icons on a grid where they want them.
Uhhhh you do know that's not the case in iOS 18 right?
 
Feb. 12, 2024:
Let’s be Honest alright, the 15 series line up was was mediocre, disappointing, lame, BORING.
I guarantee that the next iphone will only come with 3 difference:
1) larger displays
2) a new button
3) “AI” integrated

Feb. 12, 2204:
"I'll take this bet.

When the iPhone 16 series is introduced, if these are the only three differences, I'll buy you a $25 Amazon gift card. If there are more than these three differences, you buy me a $25 Amazon gift card."

Sept. 10, 2024:
imtoretto: I think I won this bet. Are you willing to stand by your words?
 
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should you upgrade from a 15 to a 16. are people this Rich to do this? I have an iPhone 13 Pro Max, and compared to my friends 15, speed-wise wise opening apps and doing normal stuff is the same! phones have crossed a line now where it's getting diminishing returns on what improvements there are.
Nope just part of the Apple Upgrade Program.
 
You're a minority.

Plus payments suck, and I don't want to trade my old phone in. I like to hand them down.
Payments that you get 3% cash back into a Savings Account with 4.4% interest.

On years that a family member needs an upgrade I simply log in and pay off the device then start over with AUP that year on the phone.

Never had an issue since AUP was introduced that Apple hasn't made right.

Interesting you say we are a minority with zero numbers to back that up.

Work pays me monthly for a personal cell line with MAM apps. I haven't had to worry about getting ripped off selling my old phone and have zero worries about battery life.

Only annoying things are Verizon charging $35 because why not and getting a new case/screen protectors.
 
Let’s be Honest alright, the 15 series line up was was mediocre, disappointing, lame, BORING.
I guarantee that the next iphone will only come with 3 difference:
1) larger displays
2) a new button
3) “AI” integrated

Another Boring year ya’ll, so save the cash and skip, AGAIN.
Idk what people are expecting from a phone at this point but hardware improvements. Its similar to a desktop or laptop. The upgrades are in the software itself.
 
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