Not an unreasonable number.
Do you have insight into Apple's overhead and indirect costs, which GPM doesn't cover?
I remember when Apple significantly lowered its profit margins once…
(It wasn’t pretty.)
Not an unreasonable number.
Do you have insight into Apple's overhead and indirect costs, which GPM doesn't cover?
Developing the Vision Pro, you mean. IOS improvements have been marginal for years, and quality hasn't been particularly great as well.Those 40-45% have to pay for hardware and software engineering. Developing iOS, for instance.
Because technological progress isn’t linear, and also not equally distributed. Semiconductors have had diminishing improvements for the past decade or so. Batteries also haven't been improving much. Physics is a bitch.Why, when it comes to the astonishing reduction in prices of technology over time, are SSD prices falling so (comparatively) slowly⁉️
Why does 4TB still cost a fortune?!
Presumably the UK price includes VAT as well. Otherwise it would be another 20% on top of the above quoted prices. I don't really see the point though in comparing prices like this - unless you know all of the details about forex, taxes, import duties etc then there's really little point. Also there's the price of competing goods in each market to consider and public perception. Eg if you have a phone that is viewed as incredibly premium, then you may as well price it appropriately regardless of any comparison to the base price in the USA.This article was written as if Apple sells the iPhone in USA MSRP, worldwide.
There are 1.3b active iPhone users worldwide vs 150m in the USA, so approximately only 10% of iPhone pros are sold at $999/$1199.
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Which ever way you look at it, the pro max still has more than 100% mark up 🫨
The iPhone 15's production costs are appreciably higher than those of last year's iPhone 14 models, marking record high component prices that Apple could pass onto customers in 2024, Nikkei Asia reports.
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The iPhone 15 Pro Max is calculated to cost $558, a 12% increase over the iPhone 14 Pro Max model released in 2022. This is a record high for the total cost of an iPhone's components. From 2018 to 2021, the total cost of parts for Apple's iPhone "Pro Max" models ranged from $400 to $450. Component costs rose around 20% in 2022 before reaching today's record high of $558.
The cost of the iPhone 15 Pro Max's telephoto camera now stands at $30, a 380% increase over the previous model. Likewise, the titanium frame costs $50, a 43% increase over the stainless steel frame of previous devices. The A17 Pro chip comes in at $130, a 27% increase over the A16 Bionic chip.
The other models in the iPhone 15 lineup are also not immune to cost increases. The standard iPhone 15's components come in at $423, a 16% increase compared to the iPhone 14. The iPhone 15 Plus is calculated at $442, a 10% increase over its predecessor, while the iPhone 15 Pro grew by 8% to $523.
Despite increased costs, Apple did not increase the retail prices of any of its iPhone models this year and chose to absorb the impact of increased expenses. The only notable change was the discontinuation of the 128GB Pro Max model, meaning that users who normally purchased the 128GB model now have to pay $100 more to obtain the device.
In collaboration with Nikkei, Tokyo-based research company Fomalhaut Techno Solutions believes that if Apple continues to absorb the impact of increased production costs, its bottom line will soon take a hit. As a result, Apple may finally choose to hike iPhone retail prices upon the launch of next year's iPhone 16 lineup.
Article Link: iPhone 15's Record High Production Cost Could Push Up iPhone 16 Prices
Keep guessing! Eventually, the more expensive iPhone rumor will turn out correct.
Ummm… just how much more volume do you think there is available?Good thing Walmart doesn't make them or the retail price would be $559.98 They'd make it up on volume of course.
This article was written as if Apple sells the iPhone in USA MSRP, worldwide.
There are 1.3b active iPhone users worldwide vs 150m in the USA, so approximately only 10% of iPhone pros are sold at $999/$1199.
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Vision Pro is dead out the gate and god knows how much cash was wasted on car research.
This sounds like a load of bull to me. The reason they splintered their iPhone line into “Pro” and standard is because the pro units cost $200-$400 more for starting costs.
The iPhone 15's production costs are appreciably higher than those of last year's iPhone 14 models, marking record high component prices that Apple could pass onto customers in 2024, Nikkei Asia reports.
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The iPhone 15 Pro Max is calculated to cost $558, a 12% increase over the iPhone 14 Pro Max model released in 2022. This is a record high for the total cost of an iPhone's components. From 2018 to 2021, the total cost of parts for Apple's iPhone "Pro Max" models ranged from $400 to $450. Component costs rose around 20% in 2022 before reaching today's record high of $558.
The cost of the iPhone 15 Pro Max's telephoto camera now stands at $30, a 380% increase over the previous model. Likewise, the titanium frame costs $50, a 43% increase over the stainless steel frame of previous devices. The A17 Pro chip comes in at $130, a 27% increase over the A16 Bionic chip.
The other models in the iPhone 15 lineup are also not immune to cost increases. The standard iPhone 15's components come in at $423, a 16% increase compared to the iPhone 14. The iPhone 15 Plus is calculated at $442, a 10% increase over its predecessor, while the iPhone 15 Pro grew by 8% to $523.
Despite increased costs, Apple did not increase the retail prices of any of its iPhone models this year and chose to absorb the impact of increased expenses. The only notable change was the discontinuation of the 128GB Pro Max model, meaning that users who normally purchased the 128GB model now have to pay $100 more to obtain the device.
In collaboration with Nikkei, Tokyo-based research company Fomalhaut Techno Solutions believes that if Apple continues to absorb the impact of increased production costs, its bottom line will soon take a hit. As a result, Apple may finally choose to hike iPhone retail prices upon the launch of next year's iPhone 16 lineup.
Article Link: iPhone 15's Record High Production Cost Could Push Up iPhone 16 Prices
this is only true for the US market?
In the EU - and i guess the UK - iPhone 15*.* are crazy expensive
the base 15 Pro 128GB costs 1200 Eur (1270 USD)
Prices increased every year for 5 years straight from 2017 in the UK. That pattern only stopped this year.
In collaboration with Nikkei, Tokyo-based research company Fomalhaut Techno Solutions believes that if Apple continues to absorb the impact of increased production costs, its bottom line will soon take a hit. As a result, Apple may finally choose to hike iPhone retail prices upon the launch of next year's iPhone 16 lineup.
They did and they didn't. Apple absorbed the increased cost of the tetraprism camera by forcing everyone to buy the 256GB SSD upgrade. So while there 15PM has lower margins compared to the 14PM, this is countered by everyone buying that first SSD upgrade.For those who say apple won’t lower its margins….interesting estimated costs. Wonder how accurate they are?
That’s the key. As long as, whatever the price is, the value is worth it for approximately 200 million of the over 7 billion people in the world, Apple will continue to sell as many as they usually do.These people are obsessed for a price increase. If it happens, it happens. And life will continue
One of the cameras costs $30, read again.Exactly. If the four cameras have a cost of $30, I'm more than certain the additional 128GB of storage is costing a fraction of that.
1) Taxesthis is only true for the US market?
In the EU - and i guess the UK - iPhone 15*.* are crazy expensive
the base 15 Pro 128GB costs 1200 Eur (1270 USD)