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A hole for the main selfie camera, yes, but the FaceID stuff could surely be under display.

Yes, there would still be a hole, but it would be far less intrusive than the dynamic island.

The phone looks fantastic, but for that ugly dynamic island.
 
A hole for the main selfie camera, yes, but the FaceID stuff could surely be under display.

Yes, there would still be a hole, but it would be far less intrusive than the dynamic island.

The phone looks fantastic, but for that ugly dynamic island.

Dynamic Island is one of the most bizarre pieces of design I’ve ever seen. The notch was a notch. A solution to a problem. It occupied less vertical space and melted into the perimeter after ten seconds.

Dynamic Island is some kind of weird paradox that created itself so that it could exist. It’s not just a solution in search of a problem - it’s simultaneously both its own problem and its own solution. It’s a crime against industrial design. True desperation.
 
“…ultra-thin bezel technology…”

It’s becoming increasingly more difficult to convince consumers that mobile phones are worth the price to replace.
Yep! We're really at a lull, and the year-over-year changes are getting kind of subtle. They're trying to juice things enough to keep sales up, but whatever the next breakthrough is (3D displays? more tactile options? new battery tech?) they just aren't here yet so they're trimming bezels and burnishing the camera specs.
 
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That's a truly outdated mindset. Just because you currently lack the vision to find a way to accomplish it doesn't mean it will never be possible. Less than 30 years ago, people living at that time couldn't imagine we would have wireless phones, that the internet would exist, that chips could become as small as they are now, or that we would be driving electric cars. I don't believe in your assertion.
30 years ago all these things had already been imagined from decades.
 
That solution does not and will never exist. The screen solution will always compromise the quality of the camera. Apple can only claim “no deterioration” from previous implementation/model by finding improvements “budget” in the camera tech and giving some or all of it to be consumed by the screen’s deterioration.
No Apple has a patent to where the camera would only show up appear when your using the front facing camera and then would disappear when not in use. So the technology is definitely there or is coming very soon, not hard at all or complex
 
No Apple has a patent to where the camera would only show up appear when your using the front facing camera and then would disappear when not in use. So the technology is definitely there or is coming very soon, not hard at all or complex

In fairness patents are largely ideas are they not? I could probably patent an idea for a flying saucer but building it is quite another matter.
 
This is so tiresome…

Ugh I’ve been reading about bezelsss displays since the iPhone X.

Good lord is this the best they can do now?

Bezeless-less?

Steve we miss you
 
This is so tiresome…

Ugh I’ve been reading about bezelsss displays since the iPhone X.

Good lord is this the best they can do now?

Bezeless-less?

Steve we miss you

It’s the least bezel we’ve ever put into a displooy, and we think you’re gonna…etc.
 
No Apple has a patent to where the camera would only show up appear when your using the front facing camera and then would disappear when not in use. So the technology is definitely there or is coming very soon, not hard at all or complex
a mechanical component just for the camera? highly unlikely to be implemented in the real world by Apple
 
So your doubting questioning the capability of Apple?

Yes I absolutely doubt Apple at every turn these days. But that wasn’t the thrust of my point. I’m only saying that I don’t believe the mere existence of a patent speaks to the feasibility of a working product 👍
 
The idea of the iPhone maximizing screen space is like an oxymoron with the pill on the screen. All the space between the pill and the bezel is completely wasted space. The notch was more efficient on screen space. I personally prefer the hole punch the best.

What we need is to employ technology that gets rid of the need for notches, pills, and holes. I'd love a full, unobstructed screen.
 
People really struggle to sleep at night knowing the latest iphone has a tiny bezel as is. If you want a glass screen protector and a case to actually fit on this phone you need at least a thin bezel to hang onto...
 
They should have prioritized finding a solution to eliminate the notch or dynamic island altogether, without compromising the quality of the front camera instead off this. The bezels are already fine.
If A is easier than B, A will likely happen before B even if B is the higher priority.
 
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For me, the design change that would impact the most is to incorporate a material that resists most of the drops, so that you won't need to use a case. That would make the phone sexy, use it naked.

The coming back of Touch ID would be awesome too.
 
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