iPhone 6S Plus Destroys Galaxy S7 In Speed Test

[MRU]

I do find it hilarious how some come to this part of the forum with not a single interest or a single clue of how Android works or of any other brand other than Apple, they then try to argue and fail abysmally.

I agree but ... In fairness there are some here who do exactly the same regarding Apple. Disseminating nothing but FUD backed up by dubious and tenuous arguments, twisting every post into a sly dig regardless of topic at hand. And you will notice a pattern that many of the regulars give those a free pass and will +1 their posts simply because they happen to be the right side of the fence at that particular time, rather than call out their nonsense for what it is.

Haterz have to hate, regardless of which side of the fence they have aligned themselves to, as pointless as that seems to many of us here who use all devices and just enjoy technology in general.

 

[Tsepz]

I agree but ... In fairness there are some here who do exactly the same regarding Apple. Disseminating nothing but FUD backed up by dubious and tenuous arguments, twisting every post into a sly dig regardless of topic at hand. And you will notice a pattern that many of the regulars give those a free pass and will +1 their posts simply because they happen to be the right side of the fence at that particular time, rather than call out their nonsense for what it is.

Haterz have to hate, regardless of which side of the fence they have aligned themselves to, as pointless as that seems to many of us here who use all devices and just enjoy technology in general.

Very true!

 

[MRU]

We never did get GPE devices here in South Africa, so never got to give them a go, would be interesting if they made more GPE devices, especially with the hardware these days. One can only dream.

We didn't get them here in Ireland but I did end up buying both the S4 TW and then buying an imported S4 GPE. The performance difference between the two was staggering. Thankfully a few years later much of the clunkiness that was TW then has been mostly eradicated. That being said I would still prefer to have stock marshmallow on my S7E.

 

[yellowscreen]

Maybe I just expect far too much from iOS.

no, you just havent yet accepted the new paradigm. kinda like those people who dont like touch ux
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* in benchmarking apps

its throttling only in benchmarks? not in games?

 

[Tsepz]

We didn't get them here in Ireland but I did end up buying both the S4 TW and then buying an imported S4 GPE. The performance difference between the two was staggering. Thankfully a few years later much of the clunkiness that was TW then has been mostly eradicated. That being said I would still prefer to have stock marshmallow on my S7E.

They didn't give the GPE devices enough of a chance, it would have been interesting to see which does better (sales wise) had they launched them together and sold them on the same sales channels.

I'm excited to see where they take TW in Android N, they certainly have done a decent job in cleaning it up recently.

 

[Tsepz]

no, you just havent yet accepted the new paradigm. kinda like those people who dont like touch ux
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its throttling only in benchmarks? not in games?

Well I use an iPad Air 2 so I have accepted, but I want to see it become more useful. File system access for all apps would make a huge difference. Or maybe I must just accept what I am told by a company and not want to see any sort of improvement from here on.

 

[MRU]

They didn't give the GPE devices enough of a chance, it would have been interesting to see which does better (sales wise) had they launched them together and sold them on the same sales channels.

I'm excited to see where they take TW in Android N, they certainly have done a decent job in cleaning it up recently.

Yeah it's definitely the best TW has ever been.

My TW wants would be to allow users to decide which elements of a theme they want to apply (so we can choose just icons or colour scheme). Sense allows users to do this and it would be great if Samsung implemented same option. Would love to be able to mix and match and create our own combos too.

 

[yellowscreen]

Well I use an iPad Air 2 so I have accepted, but I want to see it become more useful. File system access for all apps would make a huge difference. Or maybe I must just accept what I am told by a company and not want to see any sort of improvement from here on.

why do people here use the fact that they own a certain product as proof or argument for/against something beyond the presumption that they bought it?

the mere fact that you dont actively dislike file system paradigm tells me you havent yet accepted the new one.

 

[Tsepz]

Yeah it's definitely the best TW has ever been.

My TW wants would be to allow users to decide which elements of a theme they want to apply (so we can choose just icons or colour scheme). Sense allows users to do this and it would be great if Samsung implemented same option. Would love to be able to mix and match and create our own combos too.

That would be awesome! How would you say the newer TW compares to the latest SenseUI in terms of customisability?

Remember doing themes in Symbian S60 phones? There was this one themer in particular I liked, I think his/her name was Babi, they would even take suggestions on what to improve in a theme, good times.

 

[MRU]

That would be awesome! How would you say the newer TW compares to the latest SenseUI in terms of customisability?

Remember doing themes in Symbian S60 phones? There was this one themer in particular I liked, I think his/her name was Babi, they would even take suggestions on what to improve in a theme, good times.

Sense 7 allows more customisability and does allow mix and matching of downloaded themes which enables you to create one that matches your taste. Samsung don't really need to copy what they do, but allowing us to choose what elements of a theme we want or don't want would certainly be beneficial. Many of the themes on the store usually have some area that lets them down, allowing us to deselect the element we don't like would be great. It shouldn't be that hard to implement something like that.

 

[Tsepz]

why do people here use the fact that they own a certain product as proof or argument for/against something beyond the presumption that they bought it?

the mere fact that you dont actively dislike file system paradigm tells me you havent yet accepted the new one.

The new one? The new one makes things rather difficult, some apps can take from iCloud, some can't, its messy. I see no problem in me wanting something that already works well.

 

[jamezr]

Music app isnt perfect, for sure...
You know perfectly well that Apple doesn't update apps singularly, but only within major updates of the iOS itself. So your "it's been 6 months" is pointless...


Except the edge screen in Samsung's implementation actually is just a gimmick while 3D Touch is actually useful and it's improving over the time...

I stand my position: Apple implements features BETTER than everyone else, most of the times.
3D Touch is just another good example: no one else did it so well.


Do you know the meaning of the word BETTER, don't you ? I know it even if english isn't my first language...
Apple did implement 3D touch BETTER than anyone else, so your desperade defense of Samsung is totally out of context here: Samsung didn't even implement it.

Stop apologising for Apple and the horrible 3DT implementation. Why are you making excuses for them? Its been over six month and even Apple's own builtin app don't work or return useful information. Then there is no way to tell which apps work with 3DT and which ones don't. So it is a continuous hit and miss scenario.
All the tech sites agree 3DT is not ready for prime time. It is a horrible implementation of a promising feature.

Blackberry actually did it first in 2008!
The reason Android OEMs have not done it yet..... Because they want to get it right and not make the mistakes Apple has made with it's implementation.
{S}top defending Apple for their bad implementation.

here is an example for you...

This isn’t original (the BlackBerry Storm had similar functionality in 2008), but in theory it is brilliant and the potential for third party developers (particularly in gaming) is vast. So why is the reality a lot less appealing? I put it down to software implementation.

As it stands iOS has no obvious way to indicate when 3D Touch options are available. Consequently you just hard press everything and see if anything happens: app icons, UI elements, etc. It’s complete guesswork and there’s no consistency between how third party developers implement it. Consequently using 3D Touch currently degenerates into speculation and memory.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...xy-s7-vs-apple-iphone-6s-review/#73d232561c69[/S]

 

[Tsepz]

Sense 7 allows more customisability and does allow mix and matching of downloaded themes which enables you to create one that matches your taste. Samsung don't really need to copy what they do, but allowing us to choose what elements of a theme we want or don't want would certainly be beneficial. Many of the themes on the store usually have some area that lets them down, allowing us to deselect the element we don't like would be great. It shouldn't be that hard to implement something like that.

Thanks a lot!
Yes, it shouldn't be hard at all, lets hope they implement it as at the end of the day its all about customising to what the user wants.

 

[gotluck]

no, you just havent yet accepted the new paradigm. kinda like those people who dont like touch ux
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its throttling only in benchmarks? not in games?

The new paradigm has not come up with a method to elegantly share files between apps, unless you use iCloud drive (and only iCloud drive) and it has been implemented in all the apps you need. Otherwise you have to rely on 'open in' and have a copy of the file in each apps sandbox that touches the file. Yes it is possible but it needs improvement imo.

I have not read about performance degredation while gaming from real users but I'm sure it happens. Ios has the advantage WRT gaming before we even start to talk about throttling anyway imo.
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why do people here use the fact that they own a certain product as proof or argument for/against something beyond the presumption that they bought it?

the mere fact that you dont actively dislike file system paradigm tells me you havent yet accepted the new one.

The new paradigm is really just the stripping of permissions from the user, while hiding the filesystem as well. (Which is great for security)

If you jailbreak your ios device (I'm sure there are other ways to see the ios file system too), you will see that apps store files in individual folders on a per app basis and are not permitted to read folders created by other apps. The user is also not allowed to override this, unlike Mac,pc,Linux,basically any other computer os (unless you jailbreak). Androids app data partition is protected like this, but they offer workarounds for inter app sharing more effectively imo, even without using a file manager app.

I actively dislike the new paradigm (I really hate even calling this a 'new paradigm') because it is stripping power away from the user. I will like the new paradigm when they give admin rights back to the user (or at least when they have a shared stash of local storage that can be accessed by all apps). This isn't about viewing folders in a file manager. For example android uses a very similar sandbox system that ios uses, along with a shared stash accessible to all apps.

Not liking touch ux is just a preference, there is no additional restriction or control

It amuses me that Apple created the iCloud drive ios app which looks just like a file manager

 

[yellowscreen]

The new one? The new one makes things rather difficult, some apps can take from iCloud, some can't, its messy. I see no problem in me wanting something that already works well.

i see no problem in me liking the app centric paradigm much more than the file based one, primarily because file based one makes things rather difficult and messy. hence, app centric philosophy is obviously superior.

see how that works?
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I have not read about performance degredation while gaming from real users but I'm sure it happens. Ios has the advantage WRT gaming before we even start to talk about throttling anyway imo.

so the comment i quoted was purposely ignorant and could be put in the confines of the trolling definition?

considering its very easy to draw a parallel between benchmarking apps and real more demanding games in regards to the system resources it, both gaming and benchmarking, consumes and demands, it would be safe to say that the comment was both purposely and willfully ignorant, dont you think?

but if it was a question of semantics or lack of an internet link as it often is here, im respectfully stepping out of the discussion while bowing to the great thinkers and philosophers of the alternatives subsection with deep and honest apologies from my heart full to the brim of hope i didnt disturb anyones agenda over here.
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I actively dislike the new paradigm (I really hate even calling this a 'new paradigm') because it is stripping power away from the user. I will like the new paradigm when they give admin rights back to the user

does being an admin makes you feel good?

in all seriousness, i've been reading about this argument for 5 years. could you please cite a concrete situation in which you need to use file system in ios, for example on the iphone so i can understand it and be done with it already. i would honestly be grateful.

oh and, if you could make it a situation more than one percent of one percent people would use in their day to day lives, just to keep the conversation, you know, meaningful.

 

[gotluck]

You sound just like an android supporter from back in the day when ios was losing benchmark battles. I'm sure ios didn't feel the adverse performance repercussions back then.


Let's say I receive three separate emails with pdfs from different people.. I want to create a single email with all three pdfs attached to send to multiple people in a single professional email. It is way easier to do that on Android.

 

[yellowscreen]

horrible 3DT implementation.

do you quote churchill often?

the only way you could call 3dt implementation horrible would be to disregard all other.
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You sound just like an android supporter from back in the day when ios was losing benchmark battles. I'm sure ios didn't feel the adverse performance repercussions back then.

but android still does, to this day.

 

[gotluck]

The throttling issue has nothing to do with Android, it is the SOC

I'd like to see a video or at least a real testimate of this performance degradation/throttling over time that is so easily apparent. We know you've never used the phone and are looking at benchmark charts, that was my point

Most people don't buy phones to game either, I'm sure your tune would change here if we were to talk about Mac vs pc where macs are comparatively weak at gaming(Mac is probably worse off than android in their respective battle for gaming actually)

 

[Tsepz]

i see no problem in me liking the app centric paradigm much more than the file based one, primarily because file based one makes things rather difficult and messy. hence, app centric philosophy is obviously superior.

see how that works?
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so the comment i quoted was purposely ignorant and could be put in the confines of the trolling definition?

considering its very easy to draw a parallel between benchmarking apps and real more demanding games in regards to the system resources it, both gaming and benchmarking, consumes and demands, it would be safe to say that the comment was both purposely and willfully ignorant, dont you think?

but if it was a question of semantics or lack of an internet link as it often is here, im respectfully stepping out of the discussion while bowing to the great thinkers and philosophers of the alternatives subsection with deep and honest apologies from my heart full to the brim of hope i didnt disturb anyones agenda over here.
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does being an admin makes you feel good?

in all seriousness, i've been reading about this argument for 5 years. could you please cite a concrete situation in which you need to use file system in ios, for example on the iphone so i can understand it and be done with it already. i would honestly be grateful.

oh and, if you could make it a situation more than one percent of one percent people would use in their day to day lives, just to keep the conversation, you know, meaningful.

Mate, I have no issue with you liking the app centric paradigm, use what works for you.
For me the beauty in Android is that it gives me the luxury of both app and file, and my argument is that it would be great if iOS did the same, give us the option, that is all I am saying.

This is exactly why I said Android, for me, is better for productivity, I am not limited to just one way of doing things, there is always another.

I could decide to stick to just GDrive or do GDrive, OneDrive AND Local file System.

 

[C DM]

Hardly anybody use zip anymore since both rar and 7zip are better. Speaking of which do rar and 7zip compressors (not just uncompress) exist for iOS like on Android? Couldn't find any when I looked.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rarlab.rar

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.zdevs.zarchiver

Most typical users and places online will still use zip, so if "hardly anybody" means a good majority, then I guess you would be right.

 

[KillaMac]

Sorry but it maybe faster due to the O/S refinement, but I will still own m s7 edge over my previous iphone 6s plus. This phone is worlds better.

 

[mi7chy]

Most typical users and places online will still use zip, so if "hardly anybody" means a good majority, then I guess you would be right.

I'm not talking about soccer moms. Power users either use 7z or rar since compression has been better and faster than zip for years.

 

[Michael Goff]

I'm not talking about soccer moms. Power users either use 7z or rar since compression has been better and faster than zip for years.

I love how the tech community still uses the term power user like there's one set of them that follows specific guidelines.

Gotta have some way to make us feel superior about our use case, right?

 

[C DM]

I'm not talking about soccer moms. Power users either use 7z or rar since compression has been better and faster than zip for years.

And there's a whole range between power users and soccer moms too. So, again, hardly "hardly nobody" by even the most lose definition of the phrase.

 

[mi7chy]

Difference is power users are not lazy and clueless. Point of using compression is to save space and time. Nobody uses zip anymore for the last decade or so except for the lazy and clueless because there are much more efficient archivers. It's like the horse drawn carriage. It was common at one time and you might find a few who still swear by it but it's a relic of the past much like iOS was in 2011.