iPhone 6S Plus Destroys Galaxy S7 In Speed Test

[lagwagon]

It's funny how one video result in a sea of videos results with differ outcomes gets the most attention. Reminds me of FOX News.

What's funny is how salty some of you get over a video that shows the shortcomings of a Samsung phone.

Which by the way is far more accurate than the fools that place the phones side by side and "do their best" to tap on both phones at the exact same time and accuracy.

The video this thread is about is timed by a stopwatch. Far more accurate.
[doublepost=1458417798][/doublepost]Edit for this post https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s7-in-speed-test.1961668/page-9#post-22686042

I forgot to add the screenshot of how better implemented Apple's wrap around could work.

 

[Lloydbm41]

So now it's who puts it out first is the only relevant, important thing? You've used the reverse argument so many times before, but now that "who was FIRST" fits your argument you flip flop your own views.

Apple wasn't the first to do fingerprint as you've many times pointed out in various threads (which is what I talked about in the above paragraph of you flip flopping to fit your current argument.)

It sucked and no other phone copied. Apple came in and did it right a couple years later and set the standard of how well a fingerprint reader should work. They did it miles better and it took years for others to catch up (some still are behind.) Now almost no phone is without one.

So no, it's not about who was FIRST. It's about who does it better. Apple will no doubt do wrap around screen better.
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Or how Apple Maps still sucks years later? Or how it took Apple 5 years to get 2-factor authentication off the ground and it was still a mess? And if you want to talk about copying features, there is a very long list of Apple stealing ideas from Android, BB and Windows, a lot of which a very crappy imitations. Just look at your lock screen and notification center for examples.

 

[nviz22]

What's funny is how salty some of you get over a video that shows the shortcomings of a Samsung phone.

Which by the way is far more accurate than the fools that place the phones side by side and "do their best" to tap on both phones at the exact same time and accuracy.

The video this thread is about is timed by a stopwatch. Far more accurate.
[doublepost=1458417798][/doublepost]Edit for this post https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...s7-in-speed-test.1961668/page-9#post-22686042

I forgot to add the screenshot of how better implemented Apple's wrap around could work.

People can show a video with Apple's shortcomings too. Big whoop. You like the A9's faster single processing speed, fine. If you don't like the Snapdragon as much, that's also fine. Arguing about speed tests is pointless.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I forgot to add the screenshot of how better implemented Apple's wrap around could work.

Key word... "Could"

Maybe we can all pretend that the world is full of unicorns and bunnies too. If you have to use words like could, would, and if to make your argument valid, you have no argument. You are living in Fantasyland.

 

[lagwagon]

Or how Apple Maps still sucks years later? Or how it took Apple 5 years to get 2-factor authentication off the ground and it was still a mess? And if you want to talk about copying features, there is a very long list of Apple stealing ideas from Android, BB and Windows, a lot of which a very crappy imitations. Just look at your lock screen and notification center for examples.

That post wasn't about copying features. Clearly it went over your head.

It was about how Radon twists, bends and completely flip flops his own views and arguments to fit what it is he currently is arguing about. Contradicting anything he forces as points previously in other arguments.
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Key word... "Could"

Maybe we can all pretend that the world is full of unicorns and bunnies too. If you have to use words like could, would, and if to make your argument valid, you have no argument. You are living in Fantasyland.

Just like the s7 edge "could" or "would" beat the 6s+ if the excuses you all keep making didn't exist. Right?
[doublepost=1458418713][/doublepost]

People can show a video with Apple's shortcomings too. Big whoop. You like the A9's faster single processing speed, fine. If you don't like the Snapdragon as much, that's also fine. Arguing about speed tests is pointless.

I'm not arguing the speed test. I'm arguing the hilarious conspiracy theories made by those who are ruffled by their Samsung that was released 6 months later and still losing to the 6s+.

 

[gotluck]

^ if you were to try a galaxy s7, it is not the speed of the device that would keep you from keeping it.. unless you are just being obtuse

there are too many factors for a true and fair comparison, resolution and operating system methodologies... to repeatedly claim the 6s+ 'beats' the s7e in such a black and white manner shows a poor understanding IMO. If you dont care about screen resolution then fine (I dont really either, I prefer performance), but there is at least one area the s7e is definitely 'beating' the 6s+

there are much more reasonable criticisms! like software, support, updates or android itself

 

[nviz22]

That post wasn't about copying features. Clearly it went over your head.

It was about how Radon twists, bends and completely flip flops his own views and arguments to fit what it is he currently is arguing about. Contradicting anything he forces as points previously in other arguments.
[doublepost=1458418437][/doublepost]

Just like the s7 edge "could" or "would" beat the 6s+ if the excuses you all keep making didn't exist. Right?
[doublepost=1458418713][/doublepost]

I'm not arguing the speed test. I'm arguing the hilarious conspiracy theories made by those who are ruffled by their Samsung that was released 6 months later and still losing to the 6s+.

Although Samsung is the "biggest Apple competitor" in the west, they're not the best to measure against Apple and its A9 chip. Only Pure Android can serve as the best basis. The A9 works better in the most important area, single core usage. More people will make calls, send texts, and browse the web compared to the folks that game, use multi-window, or stuff that requires major multi tasking. It doesn't surprise me that the A9 chipset is better in specs. Apple fine tunes their hardware schemes better than most of its competitors. I am sure someone could fine tune the S7 Edge hardware to beat the 6S Plus, but at the same token, someone can edit the iPhone via jailbreak. Specs are relatively meaningless. I use my S7 Edge more than my iPhone for now. I will use my future iPhone 7 Plus more than my Galaxy. It's a cycle.

 

[jamezr]

So something is still better than it not even being in existence anywhere else, right? And the context was comparison to others, as you mentioned:

Maybe but it depends on how it's used. For me it adds a degree of difficulty that does not need to be there. If it worked for all apps and returned usefull formation......

 

[Klyster]

I really doubt the processor is what's behind the 1 min performance discrepancy. The flash may have more impact but there is something else going on. The guy in the video, at the end suggests something about Android encryption being the culprit of the slow down, notice the major slow downs seem to occur while loading the game data. I haven't seen anyone address this factor, I think we need more information and tests before jumping to broad conclusions.

This.
When I first got my Note 5, I somehow managed to trip Knox into encrypting my phone, I had no idea but it certainly slowed it down, startup/reboot times were nuts long.
I reset the phone and was and has been fast as a fast thing.

The problem with these video tests are that it's easy for a result to be achieved either willingly or unwillingly. I've seen these type of test done where one phone even betters the other phone/s, and the narrator will say the complete opposite, these tests are not conclusive as the variables are many, the person conducting the test is usually the biggest variable.

People need to learn what Destroy means....
[doublepost=1458427082][/doublepost]

What's funny is how salty some of you get over a video that shows the shortcomings of a Samsung phone.


I forgot to add the screenshot of how better implemented Apple's wrap around could work.

I wonder who'll be making that for apple when they decide to do more than a scribble in a few years time...

In the meantime, Samsung's implementation is the best full stop.
Apples has a me too drawing waiting at the patent office...

It's funny how salty and how far offtrack people get over any criticism of thier proffered product.

 

[nj1266]

Oh now it's all excuses. Then by your own logic, you sure have a ton of iPhone excuses regarding the camera. You sure didn't call out the massive iPhone excuses others made for the lack of 3D touch options. Shall I go on?
[doublepost=1458416694][/doublepost]It's funny how one video result in a sea of videos results with differ outcomes gets the most attention. Reminds me of FOX News.

No it is not an excuse. The IPhone camera in low light is not as good as it was before. Apple messed up by increasing the number of pixels on the same size sensor which meant smaller pixels which reduced the light input into the camera. Apple even failed to make the aperture larger (from 1.22 to 1.2 or less would have been ideal) to compensate for the extra small pixels added to the sensor. All that added to a lackluster performance in low light. I have never had to resort to a lowlight camera app to take pictures in low light before, but now I did. I wish Apple had kept the camera the same as the 6.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Another thing to note is that Apple employs clever tactics to make it seem as if some apps havent reloaded.It saves a screenshot of the app and whilst the animation of the app being zoomed in is bein show,its already reloaded that app.iOS has very convenient slow animations

Is that not a good thing?
It's about user experience and if they hide certain annoyances well I think that should be applauded not ridiculed.

 

[Tsepz]

Or you know. It's the known fact that Samsung can't even manage 4gb of RAM efficiently vs 2gb Apple uses.

Your made up conspiracy theories continue...

Not at all a known fact, but an assumption. Samsung made TW very strict on RAM Management in Android 5.0 FWs, the Note 4 got it to, they basically instructed the phone to kill more processes than it would in previous versions of Android. In the latest 5.1.1 and 6.0 FWs they have made it a little less strict. This is why some devs at XDA could tweak the RAM Management.

Uggh, can't believe I had to explain this. The fact that it could be tweaked is a clear indication that the RAM Management was the one that had been done.

 

[Radon87000]

Not at all a known fact, but an assumption. Samsung made TW very strict on RAM Management in Android 5.0 FWs, the Note 4 got it to, they basically instructed the phone to kill more processes than it would in previous versions of Android. In the latest 5.1.1 and 6.0 FWs they have made it a little less strict. This is why some devs at XDA could tweak the RAM Management.

Uggh, can't believe I had to explain this. The fact that it could be tweaked is a clear indication that the RAM Management was the one that had been done.

Slapping in a custom ROM should solve the issue,it thats possible

 

[Max(IT)]

Yep, for me iOS is far behind Android, especially for working on the go. One example is I can unzip and make comments on client creatives on my Note 4 and give them feedback, rezip and send back while waiting to board a flight, this alone is a huge win for me as I don't have to take out my laptop which is a mission.

How is the problem me? LMAO!!! 1st mistake, blaming the user, when you can improve the product. My point is Android did this in a far better manner long ago without having to take the extra step.

1st mistake: speak about something you clearly don't know.
There are zip/unzip apps even on iOS.... you don't need a laptop for that.
again... iOS far behind Android ... lol... maybe on a parallel dimension.

 

[gotluck]

1st mistake: speak about something you clearly don't know.
There are zip/unzip apps even on iOS.... you don't need a laptop for that.
again... iOS far behind Android ... lol... maybe on a parallel dimension.

Yea but you have to use the clunky 'open with' to move it between apps and also end up with the file saved independently in each app that touches the file due the sandbox system. Certain tasks android does more efficiently, at least you can admit that...

Though it is rather clear you aren't interested in discussion when more than half of your comment consists of insults. Both os' are behind eachother in certain areas

 

[Max(IT)]

Lol the music app is Apple's own builtin app. How much longer don't hey need to implement it right? It's been 6 months. What about the system app and weather? All builtin Apple apps. How much longer don't hey need to get their in house apps right be their own app developers?

Music app isnt perfect, for sure...
You know perfectly well that Apple doesn't update apps singularly, but only within major updates of the iOS itself. So your "it's been 6 months" is pointless...

lol you dont find the fact the 6s is 1 minute faster ridiculous?
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The point is if the Edge screen is a gimmick,then so is 3D Touch except you know people actually USE the Edge screen

Except the edge screen in Samsung's implementation actually is just a gimmick while 3D Touch is actually useful and it's improving over the time...

You missed the point and now jump in without context. I replied to a post insinuating Apple always implements features better than everyone else.
I gave 3DT as an example of not so good a feature implementation.

I stand my position: Apple implements features BETTER than everyone else, most of the times.
3D Touch is just another good example: no one else did it so well.

try to keep up with the conversation and get context.
apple doesn't always implement features well. 3DT is a prime example of it....what it will be is speculation at best. What is it now is what i commented on.
I have never said Samsung or anyone else has 3DT....please show me where i said that?
As to your speculation of what 3DT will be in the future and how it will evolve....i look forward to seeing it!

Do you know the meaning of the word BETTER, don't you ? I know it even if english isn't my first language...
Apple did implement 3D touch BETTER than anyone else, so your desperade defense of Samsung is totally out of context here: Samsung didn't even implement it.

 

[Tsepz]

1st mistake: speak about something you clearly don't know.
There are zip/unzip apps even on iOS.... you don't need a laptop for that.
again... iOS far behind Android ... lol... maybe on a parallel dimension.

You really do need to take your own advice, as a zip app in iOS doesn't have file system access the way it does in Android, it doesn't work seamlessly with other apps as it would in Android. You clearly did not read or you simply did not understand, which is fine, no need to embarrass yourself.

Yes, indeed, iOS for me is far behind Android, in many many areas, especially for productivity.

An iPhone feels more like a featurephone with a great app eco system, very reminiscent of Sony Ericsson's Java phones like the SE Aino i.e. can sort of multitask, has the basic PIM stuff and a wealth of apps (SE really missed it with the last part). While an Android tends to be more like a mini laptop in your pocket thanks to seamless file system, system wide app to app sharing, being able to connect to any PC without software and be used as a USB drive etc etc...

Maybe I just expect far too much from iOS.

 

[Tsepz]

Yea but you have to use the clunky 'open with' to move it between apps and also end up with the file saved independently in each app that touches the file due the sandbox system. Certain tasks android does more efficiently, at least you can admit that...

Though it is rather clear you aren't interested in discussion when more than half of your comment consists of insults. Both os' are behind eachother in certain areas

Exactly!

And this in general, at least for me makes iOS rather frustrating to use for productive things, so I stick to content consumption on my iPad, and do the more serious stuff either on my laptop or phone if its now too much to do.

 

[Max(IT)]

Its irrelevant who had the patent first.Who put it on the market FIRST is whats important.Microsoft has a crap ton of very cool patents thanks to Nokia which are completely irrelvant as they never made it into a finished product

it's irrelevant who put in on the market first if the implementation is nothing more than a marketing gimmick like edge display of Samsung...

I dont run benchmarks all day.I actually,you know,USE my device.I am sure on my gaming rig if I run the Prime95 stress test for more than 48 hours continous it will eventually throttle at some point.That does not in any way mean its inferior to a PC with nitrogen cooling as in the end during normal heavy usage they will run the same.SHOW ME A VIDEO where the S7 performance drops after a strenous NORMAL real world activity.

A benchmark that is nothing more THAN A GAME running for 12 minutes before throttling on the S7.
I'm sure you play games for no more than 5 minutes on your S7 ... or it was an S6 ... or a 6S ... or a 6 ... I'm still confused

Do you have videos to backup this statement rather than just pointless blanket statements.Every OS has the occassional lag here and there (although my iPhone 6 has it worse than others and my Air 2 never did on 8.4.1)

I reported the review OF A NEST OF ANDROID FANS like Xda Developer forum ... not enough for you ...

The person I quoted opined that his iPhone is easier to hold than the Galaxy Edge.The Edge is harder to hold but the normal version is easier to hold

The whole matter of what is easier to hold is ridiculous....

If Edge screen is a gimmick than so is 3D Touch as productivity wise both dont have much utility

Totally unrelated features...
It's just an attempt on your part to divert the attention on another matter.

"As usual" -First you need to prove how has Apple perfected ANY of Samsung's flaws in their own produuct because with the small bezels and the gorgeous screen along with widespread adoption of Samsung Pay in the US it seems the contrary is more true

For me it just takes to actually use a Samsung smartphone and an iPhone to know how better Apple is...

Slapping in a custom ROM should solve the issue,it thats possible

lol... a custom ROM... Yes, you definitely should opt for a Samsung device over an iPhone.

Yea but you have to use the clunky 'open with' to move it between apps and also end up with the file saved independently in each app that touches the file due the sandbox system. Certain tasks android does more efficiently, at least you can admit that...

Though it is rather clear you aren't interested in discussion when more than half of your comment consists of insults. Both os' are behind eachother in certain areas

What's "clunky" on 'open with' ???

Insults ? Do you have courage to call my posts "insults" when there is people worshipping Samsung in a systemic way on an Apple centric forum...
I didnt insult anyone saying the iPhone is far better than any Samsung phone... even if it hurts for someone.

 

[gotluck]

Lol if you don't think open with is clunky we should just stop talking. We will never see eye to eye

Given your logo choice I don't think you are capable of appreciating anything associated with Google anyways

 

[Max(IT)]

You really do need to take your own advice, as a zip app in iOS doesn't have file system access the way it does in Android, it doesn't work seamlessly with other apps as it would in Android. You clearly did not read or you simply did not understand, which is fine, no need to embarrass yourself.

Yes, indeed, iOS for me is far behind Android, in many many areas, especially for productivity.

An iPhone feels more like a featurephone with a great app eco system, very reminiscent of Sony Ericsson's Java phones like the SE Aino i.e. can sort of multitask, has the basic PIM stuff and a wealth of apps (SE really missed it with the last part). While an Android tends to be more like a mini laptop in your pocket thanks to seamless file system, system wide app to app sharing, being able to connect to any PC without software and be used as a USB drive etc etc...

Maybe I just expect far too much from iOS.

Ok ... iPhone a featurephone ... I'm not going to bite the bait.
With this post you made clear your target,

 

[Tsepz]

Ok ... iPhone a featurephone ... I'm not going to bite the bait.
With this post you made clear your target,

Do you have trouble with reading comprehension? Again, you can just say so.

'feels more like a featurephone' not that it is. There is no bait, just my take on the iPhone. Not quite sure if you ever used SE's featurephones as well as Nokia's Symbian phones, but the debate between iPhone vs. Android is close to what those two were. One was a device with great PIM features and some smartphone functionality while Symbian phones strived to be convergence smartphones that allowed all kinds of customisation and dabbling.

Bait lol. Oh dear...

 

[gotluck]

* in benchmarking apps

 

[gotluck]

For the record I am not a big Samsung fan either

I have a gs4 gpe (Would happily buy more Samsung gpe devices) and one Samsung tv. SD cards and ssd too if we want to go that far

 

[mi7chy]

There are zip/unzip apps even on iOS.... you don't need a laptop for that.
again... iOS far behind Android

Hardly anybody use zip anymore since both rar and 7zip are better. Speaking of which do rar and 7zip compressors (not just uncompress) exist for iOS like on Android? Couldn't find any when I looked.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rarlab.rar

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ru.zdevs.zarchiver