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BeeGood

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And to be perfectly honest this speed test video completely rules out the S7 purchase from a neutral point of view as it seems be a slow bloated unresponsive POS.You realise what a 1 MINUTE lag time means?

It could have a 4K resolution yet I cannot deal with this much speed difference (which again I reiterate seems BS)to even consider getting this

Eh...I don't think you can say that. There is no neutral point of view. You just proved that in your second paragraph.

Most people (including me) would choose the S7 display over the 6s+ display. A lot of people (including me) would choose the S7 camera with its insanely fast autofocus. But I'm not trading my 6s+ for an S7. There are so many things that I have to evaluate before I buy a phone.

I personally love these videos. Stuff like this makes all phones better and me as a consumer better off.
 
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Shanghaichica

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I prefer TW over pure Android too. The majority of TW complaints have always been exaggerated and has never affected productivity for myself. And I'm a heavy user. So if stutter and lag was as common as people claim, I would have been moved away from Samsung. The S3 was the last Galaxy device that I had frequent problems with, and still had majority of trouble free usage.

The few very minor grievances on TW don't outweight the fustration of being locked down on iOS and refusing minor updates cause I don't wanna break my jailbreak and wait forever for another one.
I'm the same. I prefer TW over stock android. I find stock android bland. Although TW has a lot of quirks I think it's features make up for it. I'd rather use TW bugs and all and get access to the all the TW specific features than use stock android.
 

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I will research quantom dot, this is the first i am hearing of it.
As for the pentile matrix the resolution is so high that it does not matter at this point.

Im going by the eye test and amoled now looks brilliant. Dont get me wrong, I love the display on my 6 Plus but amoled is better all around imo.
Pentile matrix still affects angle of view (regarding colors) and color precision over the time (blue sub pixels will wear earlier).
So yes, they LOOK brilliant, but I still don't want it on my next iPhone, if possible.
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Me too, I think Apple is behind the competition with their display. Resolution (1080p) is good enough but I think the panel looks a bit dull compared to some others.
Anyway, I think Max(IT) is right in a way, some LCD screens are beautiful, have bright colors and deep black just like OLED. Have you seen the Xperia Z5 Compact ? I've played with it last time in a store, and damn does the screen is absolutely beautiful. When I was back at home, I checked the specs and couldn't believe it was a LCD 720p. :D
Correct.
Sony is one of the few Android manufacturer that can really make a good phone (the Z3/Z5 Compact serie is truly amazing).... and they are struggling to survive in the Android world !
Do you know why ? Because in the Android world is all about tech specs list and nothing about user experience.
The 720P display of the Z5C is just fantastic. But it's not "cool" to say 720P while is very "cool" to say "2K", even if is useless for a 5" display at normal distance.
 
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Radon87000

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Pentile matrix still affects angle of view (regarding colors) and color precision over the time (blue sub pixels will wear earlier).
So yes, they LOOK brilliant, but I still don't want it on my next iPhone, if possible.
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Correct.
Sony is one of the few Android manufacturer that can really make a good phone (the Z3/Z5 Compact serie is truly amazing).... and they are struggling to survive in the Android world !
Do you know why ? Because in the Android world is all about tech specs list and nothing about user experience.
The 720P display of the Z5C is just fantastic. But it's not "cool" to say 720P while is very "cool" to say "2K", even if is useless for a 5" display at normal distance.
The reason Sony stuggles is purely because they make moronic decisions.Apple will always get away with 750P LCD because of software and other integration features.Sony REFUSES to adopt AMOLED and still has a 1080P flagship while their 4K Xperia Premium is still a 1080P phone 90% of the time.Had they made a REAL 4K AMOLED Phone they could go toe to toe with Samsung.

LCD technology should die already.OLED is BETTER.Even with a Pentile Matrix the vibrant and warm display really brightens your day especially when you look at it first thing in the day
 

AintDutchNotMuch

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It's been almost six months since I have the S6, after having owned the iPhone 6. All I can say is that the S6 is seriously blazing fast, it flies through everything you throw at it, really extremely fast and hasn't crashed or lagged on me even once. If the 6s is really faster than even S7 it would be nothing more than milliseconds. Also don't forget that the S6/S7 has a QHD screen where the 6S has a lousy 750p screen. Also 5.1 inch vs 4.7 inch in almost the same footprint. Water resistant vs non resistant, and of course the price difference etc. (S7 will have several price cuts in the coming months). I love how the S6 phone feels in the hand and how it looks. Hands down t's the best phone I ever had, and I'm sure the S7 is an even more powerful beast (obviously..). Really folks, the time of bloated, slow and laggy Samsung Touchwiz phones are over. So if you want to switch, just DO it. More bang for your buck that's for sure;)
 

Radon87000

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Eh...I don't think you can say that. There is no neutral point of view. You just proved that in your second paragraph.

Most people (including me) would choose the S7 display over the 6s+ display. A lot of people (including me) would choose the S7 camera with its insanely fast autofocus. But I'm not trading my 6s+ for an S7. There are so many things that I have to evaluate before I buy a phone.

I personally love these videos. Stuff like this makes all phones better and me as a consumer better off.
Well,for me although the display is important PERFORMANCE is the sole determining factor when I buy any piece of tech.I spent nearly $2000 on my gaming rig and over $800 just on 2 NVIDIA GTX 970 in SLI because I cant tolerate below 60FPS and stutters in animation and graphics annoy me.I expect the same thing of my phone.When I spend $800 I want the BEST screen and the highest level of performance.Nothing else matters.And in the original S7 video its performing very badly for me to even consider either the mind blowing camera or the display.The second Exynos S7 in my video shows astounding performance though
 

C DM

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Well,for me although the display is important PERFORMANCE is the sole determining factor when I buy any piece of tech.I spent nearly $2000 on my gaming rig because I cant tolerate below 60FPS and stutters in animation and graphics annoy me.I expect the same thing of my phone.When I spend $800 I want the BEST screen and the highest level of performance.Nothing else matters.And in the original S7 video its performing very badly for me to even consider either the mind blowing camera or the display.The second Exynos S7 in my video shows astounding performance though
And after claiming that performance and screen are pretty much the most important things and and nothing else matters, and continuously saying that the iPhone lacks in both departments, you still have and use an iPhone.

Then you once again mention the video that you posted that you yourself analyzed and said that it's essentially even between the Galaxy (just released) and the iPhone (half a year old already)...yet you then go on to talk about the Galaxy's astounding performance and it essentially being ahead in later posts in relation to that video.

I would bring up logic again, but it's been so long since it ran far far away.
 
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Radon87000

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And after claiming that performance and screen are pretty much the most important things and and nothing else matters, and continuously saying that the iPhone lacks in both departments, you still have and use an iPhone. I would bring up logic again, but it's been long since it ran far far away.
My iPhone was perfect on 8.4.1 and so was my Air 2.iOS 9.3 although goes a long way towards achieving that standard still has stutters every now and then.

Anyway as far as switching to Android goes,I already am in both ecosystems.I am just waiting for the next Nexus to evaluate all options

BTW the 6S is a very fast phone.I never claimed otherwise.That is until Apple ruins it in iOS 10 like my 6
 

C DM

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My iPhone was perfect on 8.4.1 and so was my Air 2.iOS 9.3 although goes a long way towards achieving that standard still has stutters every now and then.

Anyway as far as switching to Android goes,I already am in both ecosystems.I am just waiting for the next Nexus to evaluate all options
How could it be perfect if it uses LCD technology that "should die already" (going by what you mentioned) and lower resolutions, when you are looking for "the BEST screen and highest level of performance" and "Nothing else matters." (again, going by what you mentioned)?

Seems like we are back to all those inconsistencies once again (not that we really ever left them).
 

BeeGood

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Well,for me although the display is important PERFORMANCE is the sole determining factor when I buy any piece of tech.I spent nearly $2000 on my gaming rig and over $800 just on 2 NVIDIA GTX 970 in SLI because I cant tolerate below 60FPS and stutters in animation and graphics annoy me.I expect the same thing of my phone.When I spend $800 I want the BEST screen and the highest level of performance.Nothing else matters.And in the original S7 video its performing very badly for me to even consider either the mind blowing camera or the display.The second Exynos S7 in my video shows astounding performance though

As much as I like the way PhoneBuff does speed tests, they'll never capture what true performance looks like for any user in particular. Imagine if he included opening the camera, focusing on subject, moving subject, focusing again then shooting. The S7 wins that part. Or performing an action from notifications. Depending on what you're doing, the S7 probably wins there too.

Both the OPs video and yours shows what the S7's "performance problem" is...keeping apps suspended in the background and reopening them without refreshing. Aside from that, it seems to me that my 6S+ and an S7 perform pretty much the same. I'm not minimizing the problem, the 6+ did the same thing and I'm glad the 6s+ doesn't, but it is just one aspect of performance.

And a little extra perspective, the PhoneBuff speed test (which, again, I can't get enough of) runs through a set of operations that even a power user would do over the course of an hour or more. So basically, what the video shows is that I can theoretically complete this set of tasks in 60 minutes while my friend with his S7 would take 60.5 minutes. I wouldn't exactly call that a huge performance advantage.
 

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Can't we just agree that both phones are amazing?

I believe, for the most part the point of this thread is to point out that the s7 is NOT the iPhone killer that so many seem to think it is or was going to be.

For something touted to be the end all of smartphones, and released 6 months later (and 2016 vs 2015) it's equal at best. Apple's 2016 offering (iPhone 7) will just widen the gap all over again.
 

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The reason Sony stuggles is purely because they make moronic decisions.Apple will always get away with 750P LCD because of software and other integration features.Sony REFUSES to adopt AMOLED and still has a 1080P flagship while their 4K Xperia Premium is still a 1080P phone 90% of the time.Had they made a REAL 4K AMOLED Phone they could go toe to toe with Samsung.

LCD technology should die already.OLED is BETTER.Even with a Pentile Matrix the vibrant and warm display really brightens your day especially when you look at it first thing in the day
Tell us the truth: are you paid by Samsung, right ?
Your post seems to be extracted from a Samsung marketing note...
Brightens your day when you look at it first thing in the day ? Seriously?!? :confused:

Can't we just agree that both phones are amazing?
The S 7 is amazing until you start using it...
 
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Blaze4G

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I believe, for the most part the point of this thread is to point out that the s7 is NOT the iPhone killer that so many seem to think it is or was going to be.

For something touted to be the end all of smartphones, and released 6 months later (and 2016 vs 2015) it's equal at best. Apple's 2016 offering (iPhone 7) will just widen the gap all over again.

So Samsung have:
Better display
Design (looks / small form factor)
Waterproof
Microsd
Better camera
Fast charging
Wireless charging
Better front facing camera
Better mobile payment
Better battery life

IPhone has:
Faster processor / loading apps.

Note: not listing iOS or Android as pro or con since that is a individual preference.

All this results in "equal at best".

So I guess once a phone is faster it is better or equal to any other phone.
 

lowendlinux

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Eh...I don't think you can say that. There is no neutral point of view. You just proved that in your second paragraph.

Most people (including me) would choose the S7 display over the 6s+ display. A lot of people (including me) would choose the S7 camera with its insanely fast autofocus. But I'm not trading my 6s+ for an S7. There are so many things that I have to evaluate before I buy a phone.

I personally love these videos. Stuff like this makes all phones better and me as a consumer better off.
No I'm neutral I don't like either phone and I don't like iOS or Android.
 

Michael Goff

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I believe, for the most part the point of this thread is to point out that the s7 is NOT the iPhone killer that so many seem to think it is or was going to be.

For something touted to be the end all of smartphones, and released 6 months later (and 2016 vs 2015) it's equal at best. Apple's 2016 offering (iPhone 7) will just widen the gap all over again.

Nothing will kill the iPhone as long as it continues to make huge sums of money. That being said, neither phone is a bad choice for anyone who wants a good experience.

Tell us the truth: are you paid by Samsung, right ?
Your post seems to be extracted from a Samsung marketing note...
Brightens your day when you look at it first thing in the day ? Seriously?!? :confused:


The S 7 is amazing until you start using it...

So they've recessed from the S6? Because the S6 on Marshmallow is amazing.
 
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lowendlinux

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Well,for me although the display is important PERFORMANCE is the sole determining factor when I buy any piece of tech.I spent nearly $2000 on my gaming rig and over $800 just on 2 NVIDIA GTX 970 in SLI because I cant tolerate below 60FPS and stutters in animation and graphics annoy me.I expect the same thing of my phone.When I spend $800 I want the BEST screen and the highest level of performance.Nothing else matters.And in the original S7 video its performing very badly for me to even consider either the mind blowing camera or the display.The second Exynos S7 in my video shows astounding performance though
Why would you SLI 970's that makes about zero sense.
 

Max(IT)

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So they've recessed from the S6? Because the S6 on Marshmallow is amazing.
I'm using an S6 and I beg to differ: it's far from being amazing.
Good design and fairly good materials... but still android.
 

Michael Goff

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I'm using an S6 and I beg to differ: it's far from being amazing.
Good design and fairly good materials... but still android.

In other words, Android is not a thing you like and it isn't for you. That doesn't make t bad, that just makes it not for you. My issue with the S6 was battery life and RAM management. Both are better under MM.

And no, not moving to Android. I prefer iOS. That doesn't mean I'm going to slag off good competition, though.
 

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I believe, for the most part the point of this thread is to point out that the s7 is NOT the iPhone killer that so many seem to think it is or was going to be.

For something touted to be the end all of smartphones, and released 6 months later (and 2016 vs 2015) it's equal at best. Apple's 2016 offering (iPhone 7) will just widen the gap all over again.

Eh? How is the point of this thread that? I thought this thread was just discussing performance, not the overall product.

When S7 came out the most appealing features were not performance, most of us pointed out its amazing OLED screen, waterproofing, inductive charging, 32gb default, expandability, larger battery, amazing low-light camera, etc. How in the world can you conclude "For something touted to be the end all of smartphones, and released 6 months later (and 2016 vs 2015) it's equal at best" from just performance? And it's not like S7 is a snail or something, in fact for some things it does respond faster than the iPhone.
 
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Max(IT)

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So Samsung have:
Better display
Design (looks / small form factor)
Waterproof
Microsd
Better camera
Fast charging
Wireless charging
Better front facing camera
Better mobile payment
Better battery life

IPhone has:
Faster processor / loading apps.

Note: not listing iOS or Android as pro or con since that is a individual preference.

All this results in "equal at best".

So I guess once a phone is faster it is better or equal to any other phone.
Better mobile payment ?!?
 

Blaze4G

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Eh? How is the point of this thread that? I thought this thread was just discussing performance, not the overall product.

When S7 came out the most appealing features were not performance, most of us pointed out its amazing OLED screen, waterproofing, inductive charging, 32gb default, expandability, larger battery, amazing low-light camera, etc. How in the world can you conclude "For something touted to be the end all of smartphones, and released 6 months later (and 2016 vs 2015) it's equal at best" from just performance? And it's not like S7 is a snail or something, in fact for some things it does respond faster than the iPhone.
Some thing I am wondering. I guess a supercharged Mustang with 1500 hp is better than a ferarri because it does a qtr mile faster. Atleast that seems to be his logic.
 
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