iPhone 6s Plus scores 43% higher in AnTuTu than highest Android score, iPad Pro 100% higher

[jamezr]

I'll guess I'll have to reiterate again I expect the new flagships to be better. Did you not read that earlier? Benchmarks are impressive but honestly we don't push these phones like that all the time. But to have the capability is nice. I've also said that.

Hey let's just agree that we have differences of opinion and move on. This way we can stop cluttering up this thread with our back and forth.

 

[5mohsen5]

Antutu was updated last month. This updated changed how the final score is given vs the older version.
Based on what I have read, antutu now places more emphasis on graphics. Hence why the 6p is much closer to the note 5 now and why the 6s is so high.

iphone 6s is so high, beacause of it has 4.7 inch display and 326 pix/inch and note5 has 5.7 inch and 518 pix/inch resolution .
additionaly, consider the inherent differences of android vs ios .

sorry for my english

 

[nj-morris]

iphone 6s is so high, beacause of it has 4.7 inch display and 326 pix/inch and note5 has 5.7 inch and 518 pix/inch resolution .
additionaly, consider the inherent differences of android vs ios .

sorry for my english

Screen size and resolutions do not change anything on Antutu. That's why the OnePlus 2 and the Nexus 6P scored the same, with the same processor and different resolutions.

 

[Andres Cantu]

Screen size and resolutions do not change anything on Antutu. That's why the OnePlus 2 and the Nexus 6P scored the same, with the same processor and different resolutions.

And even if it did impact the score, it's not the iPhone 6s that was tested, it was the 6s Plus, so it would be a 5.5" 1080p display, not 4.7" 750p display like 5mohensen5 mentioned.

 

[5mohsen5]

Screen size and resolutions do not change anything on Antutu. That's why the OnePlus 2 and the Nexus 6P scored the same, with the same processor and different resolutions.

Due to the optimized Android , Android 6 than 5

Being optimized operating system, played an important role in the operation of the chipset.

In a previous post, I mentioned to the ios and Android differences .

 

[5mohsen5]

Following previous post, I have to say that Android 5 first 64-bit operating system of Google , it had a lot of problems.
Including the ability to manage memory, battery consumption and etc .
And that in any case
,unlike you, screen resolution, high impact "on screen"graphics tests.

 

[Tsepz]

The Exynos and the A-chips are released around 6-months apart from each other. If anything, it's Samsung's fault for not releasing a newer SoC in the Note 5 like they used to in previous years (instead, they just gave the Note 5 an extra gig of RAM to compensate for the same performance as the S6). We've seen this before with the SIII, which had a slower SoC with 2GB of RAM in the U.S. and a faster SoC with only 1GB of RAM for the international version, and I wouldn't be surprised if they kept the 3GB of RAM for the 8890 version of the S7 and give 4GB of RAM for the 820 version.

Like I mentioned before, it's hard to compare SoC's because they are never released around the same time.

They haven't done that since the S3, so why would they do it now...

 

[Tsepz]

But you're making it seem like the 7420 is already a year old, which it isn't. The S6 was released on April 10, 2016, so I'll count that as the date the 7420 was released. The 6s was released on September 25, 2015, so the A9 was released around 5.5 months after the 7420.

I can say this: if the 8890 or the 820 manage to beat the A9 and also hold their own against the A10, then I'll give them the same props I'm giving to the A9 for the same reasons. Does that sound fair? In other words, I'll give Apple a hard time if the A10 turns out to be like the A8 (25% better CPU and 50% better GPU), because that's the only way Apple would lose their current lead.

The 7420 is similar to the 5433 that the Note 4 Exynos had in 2014, except the improved process from 20nm to 14nm.

 

[Andres Cantu]

They haven't done that since the S3, so why would they do it now...

Because they can

 

[apolloa]

Screen resolution will have a direct impact on the scores of 'on screen' graphics tests. This is obvious, that's why on a computer benchmark lowering the resolution yields better performance scores.

 

[nj-morris]

Due to the optimized Android , Android 6 than 5

Being optimized operating system, played an important role in the operation of the chipset.

In a previous post, I mentioned to the ios and Android differences .

I doubt it's a coincidence though, that the scores are so similar with all the 810 devices. I wouldn't say that those things would be deciders.

 

[Shanghaichica]

It's the same story every year. However I think bench marks do not reflect real life performance. Although I imagine the iPhone 6S/S plus would be the fastest and smoothest. The flagship android phones are no slouches and I suppose if you were not using them side by side you wouldn't notice the difference. Also the android phones are pushing a lot more pixels and have more processes running in the background.

 

[Tsepz]

Because they can

Thats stupid.

In the days of the S3 they had no choice, AFAIK the Snapdragon that was in it came bundled with 2GB RAM and a LTE modem. The Exynos of that time didn't come with either until late 2012 with the Note 2 LTE. Even the International S3 LTE came with a Snapdragon SoC with 2GB RAM. With the S4, S5 and S6 they fixed all that and made sure to reduce the differences, the S6 ended up being Exynos worldwide.

Just say you don't like Samsung, rather than throw around utterly ridiculous and unfounded conclusions, seriously my word, lol.

 

[Andres Cantu]

Thats stupid.

In the days of the S3 they had no choice, AFAIK the Snapdragon that was in it came bundled with 2GB RAM and a LTE modem. The Exynos of that time didn't come with either until late 2012 with the Note 2 LTE. Even the International S3 LTE came with a Snapdragon SoC with 2GB RAM. With the S4, S5 and S6 they fixed all that and made sure to reduce the differences, the S6 ended up being Exynos worldwide.

Just say you don't like Samsung, rather than throw around utterly ridiculous and unfounded conclusions, seriously my word, lol.

Ok, I'll say it: I don't like most things about Samsung (I do like their screens, for example). I was just throwing a witty response, don't get so defensive.

And for the record, I still think the international version of the S6 will only have 3GB or RAM while the 820 version will have 4GB. Just my personal opinion, but do make sure to bookmark this post so that you can again call my opinion "utterly ridiculous and unfounded" (since now we know your style) once we know the phone's specs. I'll be the first to give you credit.

 

[Tsepz]

Ok, I'll say it: I don't like most things about Samsung (I do like their screens, for example). I was just throwing a witty response, don't get so defensive.

And for the record, I still think the international version of the S6 will only have 3GB or RAM while the 820 version will have 4GB. Just my personal opinion, but do make sure to bookmark this post so that you can again call my opinion "utterly ridiculous and unfounded" (since now we know your style) once we know the phone's specs. I'll be the first to give you credit.

True it is your opinion, I forgot your opinion doesn't have really have to make any sort of sense.


As you were, carry on with the bizarre claims. Why stop at RAM? Maybe claim one of them will have a 1280x720 res display, and then say it's your opinion, go for gold dude!

 

[Andres Cantu]

True it is your opinion, I forgot your opinion doesn't have really have to make any sort of sense.


As you were, carry on with the bizarre claims. Why stop at RAM? Maybe claim one of them will have a 1280x720 res display, and then say it's your opinion, go for gold dude!

You see, that's the funny thing with voicing your opinions: there's always somebody that does not agree with them and instead of being nice and respecting it, they have to make fun of them and blow them out of proportion in a (to use your own word) "stupid" way.

It's anything but bizarre. Its been done before (not just with Samsung) and I feel that it will happen again. It makes sense to me, and that's all that matters. If it doesn't make sense to you, then that's on you

 

[gotluck]

samsung lg & moto have shipped phones with varying ram per region and / or tied more ram to larger flash storage sizes

not unprecedented!

 

[Shanghaichica]

samsung lg & moto have shipped phones with varying ram per region and / or tied more ram to larger flash storage sizes

not unprecedented!

Yes I'm sure the LG G3 only came with 2GB of RAM in the UK but had 3GB in other regions. I also vaguely remember it only having 16GB if internal storage compared to 32GB elsewhere. I only kept it for three days before exchanging it for the S5 though.

 

[Tsepz]

You see, that's the funny thing with voicing your opinions: there's always somebody that does not agree with them and instead of being nice and respecting it, they have to make fun of them and blow them out of proportion in a (to use your own word) "stupid" way.

It's anything but bizarre. Its been done before (not just with Samsung) and I feel that it will happen again. It makes sense to me, and that's all that matters. If it doesn't make sense to you, then that's on you

Like I said, go for gold. Don't just stop at RAM, blow us away.

 

[Andres Cantu]

samsung lg & moto have shipped phones with varying ram per region and / or tied more ram to larger flash storage sizes

not unprecedented!

Thanks, it's nice to know that someone out there knows what I'm talking about
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Like I said, go for gold. Don't just stop at RAM, blow us away.

I can't, its up to Samsung to blow you away, my opinions won't because they're "utterly ridiculous and unfounded" so nothing I saw would be able to blow you away. How nice of you to insist, though!
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Yes I'm sure the LG G3 only came with 2GB of RAM in the UK but had 3GB in other regions. I also vaguely remember it only having 16GB if internal storage compared to 32GB elsewhere. I only kept it for three days before exchanging it for the S5 though.

Good example. Not the ideal scenario, but it's all about how much RAM they decide to ship on the different versions of their flagships.

 

[Truefan31]

So are some disappointed it didn't bench higher? I read some commenters saying the 820 would make the a9 look old

 

[Tsepz]

Thanks, it's nice to know that someone out there knows what I'm talking about
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I can't, its up to Samsung to blow you away, my opinions won't because they're "utterly ridiculous and unfounded" so nothing I saw would be able to blow you away. How nice of you to insist, though!
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Good example. Not the ideal scenario, but it's all about how much RAM they decide to ship on the different versions of their flagships.
[doublepost=1453921070][/doublepost]Mods, you might as well close my thread. At this point, we're not going to be discussing the benchmark anymore.

Lol, the LG G3 examples are a matter of how they were bundled, many regions got both 2GB and 3GB RAM incl. SA, and once again, the successor, G4 stuck to same RAM across variants, not at all a good example. Huawei do the same thing, but both variants go to many of the same countries.

Just because Samsung did it ONCE, 3 years ago, doesn't mean they'll do it again as it was a nightmare when they had to update the devices and so on.

The S4, S5 and S6 didn't use that strategy, as Samsung try to make all variants as similar as possible.

I'm just using logic here + what I read WRT the S3 situation that was very unique and messy.

 

[jamezr]

Lol, the LG G3 examples are a matter of how they were bundled, many regions got both 2GB and 3GB RAM incl. SA, and once again, the successor, G4 stuck to same RAM across variants, not at all a good example. Huawei do the same thing, but both variants go to many of the same countries.

Just because Samsung did it ONCE, 3 years ago, doesn't mean they'll do it again as it was a nightmare when they had to update the devices and so on.

The S4, S5 and S6 didn't use that strategy, as Samsung try to make all variants as similar as possible.

I'm just using logic here + what I read WRT the S3 situation that was very unique and messy.

Doesn't Apple do something similar with iphone models? Like the 6s and 6s+ for instance. The 6s camera does not have OIS but the 6s+ does? The battery life on both phones is very different. The 6s battery is nothing like the 6s+ in battery life. Can't the difference all to a bigger phone with a bigger battery. Smaller phone has less resources to maintain as well/ So all things being equal you would think battery life would be the same regardless of size. I mean looks at the Xperia Z compact it gets 2 day battery life in a small footprint.

 

[Andres Cantu]

Doesn't Apple do something similar with iphone models? Like the 6s and 6s+ for instance. The 6s camera does not have OIS but the 6s+ does? The battery life on both phones is very different. The 6s battery is nothing like the 6s+ in battery life. Can't the difference all to a bigger phone with a bigger battery. Smaller phone has less resources to maintain as well/ So all things being equal you would think battery life would be the same regardless of size. I mean looks at the Xperia Z compact it gets 2 day battery life in a small footprint.

Yes, Apple does do all those things (which I don't like, but that's how it goes when they make more profit from the bigger iPhone). But it can't be said that Samsung will make all variants as similar as possible. If they did, they wouldn't be going back to the 820 after going Exynos last year (and knowing the 8890 will destroy the 820 in performance).

 

[MRU]

Yes, Apple does do all those things (which I don't like, but that's how it goes when they make more profit from the bigger iPhone). But it can't be said that Samsung will make all variants as similar as possible. If they did, they wouldn't be going back to the 820 after going Exynos last year (and knowing the 8890 will destroy the 820 in performance).

Since Samsung are supplying the chip / fabrication for the 820 I doubt they give a hoot if their new device has varying chips.in various regions. It's win win regardless.