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smacrumon

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New devices... are they being poorly manufactured?

Australian Man Claims Flaming iPhone 7 Killed His Car and Trousers
http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2016/10/australian-man-claims-flaming-iphone-7-killed-his-car-and-trousers/


A south coast surfer says his iPhone 7 burst into flames and destroyed his car
https://au.news.yahoo.com/a/32960624/iphone-7-catches-fire-destroys-vehicle/

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CEmajr

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People are trying really hard to make it seem like people were just picking on Samsung and that the Note 7 isn't a safety hazard. Pretty sure if it was just a couple random incidents they wouldn't have recalled it.
 

Thor_1

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This is a new report. Normally MacRumors would cover such issues as a separate and new article.
So? Does not change there were at least 3 threads with the same article.

And there is nothing to cover YET. Let them figure out what happened first.

And no, not a fanboy. Just a fan of common sense.
 

smacrumon

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So? Does not change there were at least 3 threads with the same article.

And there is nothing to cover YET. Let them figure out what happened first.

And no, not a fanboy. Just a fan of common sense.
Just a fan of keeping it real here.
 

Vlada011

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People worldwide should wait Apple official statement and ignore this kind of news.
Avoiding iPhone 7 because of similar rumors is madness.
Someone need to screwed up something a lot to cause battery to fire up or explode.
But now, immediately after Note 7 debacle... I don't believe in that.
Task of these news is only to decrease Apple profit, not safety of people and there are really lot of sides who are ready to give all kind of support for this kind or news. Because of that people need to stay with cold head and wait official statement. If problem exist they will tell.

Temperature in car few hours on sun could be very hot, special if phone was under black clothes and attract sun...
Who knows what happen exactly...
 

LovingTeddy

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Apple will shift the blame to user as it use to. It must be user using this party charger, must be temperature inside car too hot.

LOL...ordered mine Pixel phone and it should arrive soon. No more giving money to Apple.
 

Mefisto

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It must be user using this party charger, [...]

Party charger? I'd buy that for a dollar!

All in good fun, of course.

But yeah, the epidemic some of these articles try to brew out of these incidents seems to be greatly exaggerated as of now.
 

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LovingTeddy

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You're trolling it wrong? Help me out here...


Typical Apple fashion, blame everything to users. Apple only acknowledges problem when got sued and force to do so.

Mainwhile, getting all the cash from replacement or outside warranty claim, Apple denies all responsibilities.

Apple defense force, aka, Apple fan will defends Apple forever and think Apple can not do wrong.

Typically Apple fan response. Nothing more and nothing less.
 

C DM

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Typical Apple fashion, blame everything to users. Apple only acknowledges problem when got sued and force to do so.

Mainwhile, getting all the cash from replacement or outside warranty claim, Apple denies all responsibilities.

Apple defense force, aka, Apple fan will defends Apple forever and think Apple can not do wrong.

Typically Apple fan response. Nothing more and nothing less.
So far there doesn't seem to be some sort of an Apple/manufacturer level problem with batteries, not even in press essentially.
 

LovingTeddy

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So far there doesn't seem to be some sort of an Apple/manufacturer level problem with batteries, not even in press essentially.

More than few iPhone has exploded recently, including iPhone 6s. Apple hasn't responded to any case yet. Only offer investigation and nothing else.

I have said Apple using Samsung SDI battery and there is chance that iPhone 7 could explode. Nobody believes that, now iPhone 7 starts explode.. and we probably will see more cases after. Mark my word.

Apple will keep deny responsibilities and you guys will keep believing Apple.
 

C DM

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More than few iPhone has exploded recently, including iPhone 6s. Apple hasn't responded to any case yet. Only offer investigation and nothing else.

I have said Apple using Samsung SDI battery and there is chance that iPhone 7 could explode. Nobody believes that, now iPhone 7 starts explode.. and we probably will see more cases after. Mark my word.

Apple will keep deny responsibilities and you guys will keep believing Apple.
How about we actually see what happens before commenting on predictions?
 
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LovingTeddy

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How about we actually see what happens before commenting on predictions?


History tells us what Apple gonna do. They are most certainly gonna blame on user for not using official charger or cable or they will find other reason. Apple is known for being denying responsibilities. How about Apple fixing "touch disease" now? Not waiting for few year and do repair program like they did with MacBook.

Apple is not trust worthy, so is Google and Microsoft. But at least I can get 299 Nexus 6 runs as smooth as iPhone 7.
 

C DM

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History tells us what Apple gonna do. They are most certainly gonna blame on user for not using official charger or cable or they will find other reason. Apple is known for being denying responsibilities. How about Apple fixing "touch disease" now? Not waiting for few year and do repair program like they did with MacBook.

Apple is not trust worthy, so is Google and Microsoft. But at least I can get 299 Nexus 6 runs as smooth as iPhone 7.
And yet there's still no appearance of a manufacturer level issue so far, so when it comes to this it's a moot discussion at this point.
 

HEK

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Apple will shift the blame to user as it use to. It must be user using this party charger, must be temperature inside car too hot.

LOL...ordered mine Pixel phone and it should arrive soon. No more giving money to Apple.
Let's hope your pixel phone does not contain a LI-Ion battery. Because the current design and manufacture of ALL LI-Ion batteries make them potentially hazardous regardlless of what device they are used in.

Crush em, puncture them, put pressure on em, charge them improperly, expose them to high temperatures, they currently all have cascading discharge potentials with resultant fires.

Samsung Note 7 was particularly agreedous due to the frequency and pattern, and that the supposed corrected phones continued to catch fire, indicating Samsung had not discovered or mediated the true cause.

Until manufacturers adopt newer types of LI-Ion cells with additional metals and or use smaller particles in the cells the potential fire hazard remains. The sooner adoption of revised manufacturing techniques can be adopted, the better. There are several university R&D reasearch efforts that have yielded far superior LI-Ion designs. Manufacturing them in high numbers is the challenge.

http://phys.org/news/2015-07-lithium-ion-battery-safer-tougher.html

https://eetd.lbl.gov/newsletter/nl27/eetd-nl27-4-safer.html

http://newscenter.lbl.gov/2016/05/30/new-path-forward-next-generation-lithium-ion-batteries/

http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...atteries-after-so-many-promising-alternatives

http://news.mit.edu/2016/new-lithiu...tly-improves-energy-efficiency-longevity-0725

http://news.mit.edu/2016/lithium-metal-batteries-double-power-consumer-electronics-0817

Battery science is in constant flux and much of what is discussed in the following article from Battery University is beyond the technical expertise of majority on this forum. No disparagement intended. Even scientists well versed in the chemistry disagree on various points. As can be seen in the following article their is disagreement regarding formatting the molecular chemistry inside LI-Ion batteries. It is little wonder that lay users of this technology have varying opinions. Note the precautions in the article, in particular regarding physical pressure on the battery.

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prime_batteries
 
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