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RickTaylor

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I was with iPhone since the early days and then for a few years went to Android (my dark years) and recently I came back to iPhone and will never go back to Android period.

Your "dark" years? Seriously?

I recently switched from an Android phone to an iPhone myself, and I'm happy overall with the change. But it surprises me someone would refer to the time they used Android as the "dark years" of their life. I've had dark times of my own, but they were never related to the phone I happened to be using at the time.

I figured it out: iPhone users are in bliss, they know they got the most awesome phone and Android won;t every come close to that beautiful experience.

Ok, I like the iPhone. My iPhone 5s takes great pictures easily, is nice and compact, has better battery life than my previous phone, has good visibility outside, and interfaces well with my other Apple devices. I'm very happy with it. But "bliss"? "Beautiful experience"? Maybe I'm not using my iPhone correctly; I wouldn't mind some of this bliss myself.


I made an interesting observation:

Why is it that Android people always make fun of iPhone and almost never the other way around?

In my experience on these forums, iPhone enthusiasts are just as capable of feeling superior to others as Android enthusiasts. It's irritating on both sides. I would suggest that the strong feelings you have about the two platforms might make you more sensitive to this behavior when it comes from Android enthusiasts.

It's human nature, we all have a deep need to see ourselves as superior, frequently by seeing ourselves as a member of a group, and stereotyping members of the other group we can feel superior to. We can feel superior for the tribe we're a member of, the race, the religion. We humans are so nuts, we can even feel superior to others because of the phone we use.

Android people feel threatened but will never admit it. That's why they quite often have to talk crap about iPhone. They live in fear.

Android people? Yes those poor benighted Android people, living in fear, lashing out because in their heart of hearts, they have rejected the bliss of the one true iPhone. It's sad. :)
 

MRU

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Your "dark" years? Seriously?

I recently switched from an Android phone to an iPhone myself, and I'm happy overall with the change. But it surprises me someone would refer to the time they used Android as the "dark years" of their life. I've had dark times of my own, but they were never related to the phone I happened to be using at the time.

Agreed, someone who thinks simply owning a certain brand of device constitutes 'dark times' in their lives - has had a life very much sheltered and free of real dark times. Indeed it's almost insulting to those that have genuinely experience dark times in their lives ....
 
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MacNut

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I figured it out: iPhone users are in bliss, they know they got the most awesome phone and Android won;t every come close to that beautiful experience.
First world problems.

I would take this thread seriously if there were some examples of why one platform is better than the other. This just feels more like a "shoe size contest".
 

Lloydbm41

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no, not joking.

go look at the iPad article on engadget right now, and then compare it to the nexus 9 article.

just look. 90% of the posts in the iPad article are from android losers, bashing the iPad and blah blah blah, whereas the nexus 9 article is just.. well, no real hate from apple users.
Comments from iPhone trolls usually amount to statements like:

1. Only poor people buy Android
2. Apple makes the most revenue
3. IOS apps are better and iOS gets apps first. Android apps suck.
4. Lag. Android is laggy.
5. Android is just a ripoff of iOS.
6. App revenue is all that matters.
7. Apple just works. Android sucks.

Repeat these comments ad nauseum, regardless of the topic. If you really want to see the most pathetic of the iTrolls, go to AppleInsider forums. Those people are seriously deranged.
 

Oletros

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no, not joking.

go look at the iPad article on engadget right now, and then compare it to the nexus 9 article.

just look. 90% of the posts in the iPad article are from android losers, bashing the iPad and blah blah blah, whereas the nexus 9 article is just.. well, no real hate from apple users.

Well, if you feel better believing that then yes, Android users are just ****ing losers that only troll and iOS users are blessed with beauty, wealth and very big genitals. Happy?

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Repeat these comments ad nauseum, regardless of the topic. If you really want to see the most pathetic of the iTrolls, go to AppleInsider forums. Those people are seriously deranged.

Starting with the moderators
 

iososx

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Doesn't look like you are being sincere at all and only made this thread as bait.
I could not agree more, there's no value in the OP's post.

Personally I've used Macs as my computers of choice since 1991. I've owned many new desktops and laptops. I've been using both Android and iPhone concurrently since each of these were created. Both are different and have their pros and cons, I happen to enjoy them both, each for their respective strengths.
 

Closingracer

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I was with iPhone since the early days and then for a few years went to Android (my dark years) and recently I came back to iPhone and will never go back to Android period.

I made an interesting observation:

Why is it that Android people always make fun of iPhone and almost never the other way around?

I figured it out: iPhone users are in bliss, they know they got the most awesome phone and Android won;t every come close to that beautiful experience.

Android people feel threatened but will never admit it. That's why they quite often have to talk crap about iPhone. They live in fear.

Having been on both sides, this is my honest observation.

What are your thoughts?
Err what? I love my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 but I also like the iPhone 6 plus. If I could afford both I would own both. Don't get me wrong I prefer android but I like ios as well. Thinking of getting the new Ipad air
 

mib1800

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I feel sometimes iPhone fans are really irrational. Quite frustrating to debate with them as they seem to be living in a whole different universe.

Just like those posts that having a non intrusive LED notification which can be turned off is a bad thing. It is like trying to argue with someone who thinks the world is square.
 

dishfan82

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I've been with Apple for 4+ years now and no the iPhone isn't the best smartphone out now but the 6/6plus are the best iPhones to be released . iPhones just work great for what I do daily .
 

beosound3200

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Personal preference is one thing but objectively, there is not much of a competitive comparison. Strictly looking at capabilities, features, and functions then Android is more scalable, more flexible and has been for a long time now.

Hardware isn't even a competition at this point. Android phones are faster, with better displays, available in more configurations.

Where did you get the idea android phones are faster?
 

tjl3

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I feel sometimes iPhone fans are really irrational. Quite frustrating to debate with them as they seem to be living in a whole different universe.

Just like those posts that having a non intrusive LED notification which can be turned off is a bad thing. It is like trying to argue with someone who thinks the world is square.

Nah, it's a good Apple decision. It's too ugly, takes away from the beauty of the device. To have a gorgeous device w/ a random blinking light...
 

MRU

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I feel sometimes iPhone fans are really irrational. Quite frustrating to debate with them as they seem to be living in a whole different universe.

Just like those posts that having a non intrusive LED notification which can be turned off is a bad thing. It is like trying to argue with someone who thinks the world is square.

Same for android fans indeed possibly worse as they tend to fight between themselves regarding android device manufacturers not just iOS.
 

Oohara

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Zealots are zealots no matter what their "cause" is. Their behaviour has nothing to do with their objects of worship, it only has to do with how they are as people. And how much we happen to see them or which "side" we see more of depends on where we look and what we want to see.

As for this thread, both iOS and Android sides seem quite well represented, sadly (with the OP not sounding very balanced in his view himself, judging from the words he chooses to use). Result = junk thread.
 

mib1800

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Same for android fans indeed possibly worse as they tend to fight between themselves regarding android device manufacturers not just iOS.

Well..yes and no. Fighting maybe shows these android fans are just immature or petty but they are still fighting in the realm we call reality. But in the LED notification thread...some posts just defy logical thinking.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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I feel sometimes iPhone fans are really irrational. Quite frustrating to debate with them as they seem to be living in a whole different universe.
I have discussed things with you in the past and read many of the discussion's with you in and you seem frustrated when iPhone users will not agree with you that Android is the better option. In your mind you have made the best choice possible and I can't fault that, but it only becomes frustrating for yourself when you insist others share your view. There are a lot of people on here like that and on both sides of the debate. I would say more so on the Android side, but that is just an observation and the OP is not wrong there IMO.

If I were to judge this particular topic solely on my experience on Mac Rumor's, I would say most iPhone users are generally happy with the iPhone and dismiss many of the points put forward in the Android debate, because they are not available and will never likely be available. Apple are never going to allow you to file share or use your iPhone in the same way you can an Android device or external hard drive. I see so many people suggest when Apple allow this then they will give the iPhone a go. That isn't going to happen so they need to get over that. The principles for the platform are totally different and it is not for everybody.

I think people here in the Android crowd often think features and endless flexibility is the be all and end all of what owning a mobile phone is about. I don't think the iPhone is as restrictive as many like to portray as it allows you to complete all the day to day popular tasks that you'f expect from a smartphone. Of course Android offers more freedom, but its whether or not that freedom is needed by everybody? There are pro's and con's for both and each operating system has features the other does not. It simply comes down to personal preferences and its arrogant to think our own demands are relevant to others. Both Android and iOS are hugely popular in the global sense so they are obviously doing something right :)

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I think your the one who feels threatened by all the great Android devices being released.
Somebody said that exact same thing to me a while back because I would not roll over and admit my iPhone was inferior to their Android phone lol. Moronic I think you'll agree, but then again I'm an educated man with a good job and I bought an iPhone 6 rather than other options. No brainwashing or communism here and there is no way I would spend considerably more for a device I felt was inferior. I think the OP was badly written and unnecessary but far too many people appear to be proving his point with their replies and that is even more frustrating. :)
 

The Game 161

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IPhone doesn't compare to Android for MY needs but for others it might be the other way around

We aren't talking Cavs being better than the bulls or Spurs here where sports fans will talk who is better

Here it is only preference and what a user likes best
 

Savor

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This is online. People complain about any little THING. Some of the hate stems from Apple. Not users who are happy owning iPhones.

But there is a growing number of Android "tribes" that fight among themselves. How is it any different from iPhone 6 vs iPhone 6 Plus owners fighting among themselves during launch week last month? The Internet has opened the door for people to preach and force down their beliefs. It isn't just an iOS vs Android thing. It is an anything vs anything thing. It could be among iPhone vs iPhone tribes too. The best ideas are born out of deliberation. Lisa vs Mac. Mac OS vs iPod team.

Glad to see Android market - Be Together. Not The Same. It's Google's battle cry and rallying for all Android users being different but to stick together.
 

Apollo 13

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I noticed this when I was strictly nothing but Android. I even started here trolling iphone users. Then I finally tried a ios device for myself and like it and went out and bought my own. Since my first ios phone I have never went went back to an Android phone even though I've been tempted to. If Apple didn't release the iphone 6 in a 4.7 inch I would had been back with Android phone. All I was doing was justifying my purchase and believing I had the better device when none of that crap really mattered. Oh and

Jailbroken ios device > Any Android device (this is Fact)
 

mib1800

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I have discussed things with you in the past and read many of the discussion's with you in and you seem frustrated when iPhone users will not agree with you that Android is the better option. In your mind you have made the best choice possible and I can't fault that, but it only becomes frustrating for yourself when you insist others share your view. There are a lot of people on here like that and on both sides of the debate. I would say more so on the Android side, but that is just an observation and the OP is not wrong there IMO.

It is not quite like that. The difference is I would never twist facts into non-facts. For example, I would never twist the fact that iphone UI is smoother than Android or there are better games selection in AppStore. I accept facts for what they are. I will concede on those indisputable points. But some ifans just can't do this. Take the LED notification thread for example. Ifans came out with a lot of ridiculous reasons why LED notification is bad just because they can't bring themselves to concede on that point. Come on, you can't win all the time, isnt it?

If I were to judge this particular topic solely on my experience on Mac Rumor's, I would say most iPhone users are generally happy with the iPhone and dismiss many of the points put forward in the Android debate, because they are not available and will never likely be available. Apple are never going to allow you to file share or use your iPhone in the same way you can an Android device or external hard drive. I see so many people suggest when Apple allow this then they will give the iPhone a go. That isn't going to happen so they need to get over that. The principles for the platform are totally different and it is not for everybody.

I agree with you on this as a general reasoning (i.e. buy what you desire). But when you want to throw these 2 platforms into the ring to fight...(ok I know fighting is no good but then it is unavoidable - companies compete to survive, you want to beat your classmates to get that scholarship)...ok back to topic...so putting these phones in the ring to fight, one side cannot be so cheapskate to say to the other side "hey there, those capabilities are useless since I dont have them so you can't use those against me. But I have these things call ecosystem, imessage etc...and that makes me better than you"

I think people here in the Android crowd often think features and endless flexibility is the be all and end all of what owning a mobile phone is about. I don't think the iPhone is as restrictive as many like to portray as it allows you to complete all the day to day popular tasks that you'f expect from a smartphone. Of course Android offers more freedom, but its whether or not that freedom is needed by everybody? There are pro's and con's for both and each operating system has features the other does not. It simply comes down to personal preferences and its arrogant to think our own demands are relevant to others. Both Android and iOS are hugely popular in the global sense so they are obviously doing something right :)

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Somebody said that exact same thing to me a while back because I would not roll over and admit my iPhone was inferior to their Android phone lol. Moronic I think you'll agree, but then again I'm an educated man with a good job and I bought an iPhone 6 rather than other options. No brainwashing or communism here and there is no way I would spend considerably more for a device I felt was inferior. I think the OP was badly written and unnecessary but far too many people appear to be proving his point with their replies and that is even more frustrating. :)

Of course features and functionalities are way down the ladder and can never compete with something called pride/feel and (brand) loyalty which are too subjective and vague to have any meaningful debate on. So what else are left to discuss other than features/functionalities/specification?
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Of course features and functionalities are way down the ladder and can never compete with something called pride/feel and (brand) loyalty which are too subjective and vague to have any meaningful debate on. So what else are left to discuss other than features/functionalities/specification?
You are assuming again that brand loyalty is why people buy the iPhone. That isn't my reason so how would any meaningful debate exist if the other side doesn't understanding the reasoning of the other? I get a sense not just from this discussion, but others that you make the assumption that because the iPhone can't compete purely on the 'amount' of features it has over Android, then people only buy it for either brand loyalty or as a status symbol. You asked that very question very recently and I thought it was an ill informed mass generalisation because you couldn't possibly state that as fact.

Personally I don't think there is any debate. We can argue our reasons for choosing one over the other all day long but who needs to be convinced? The market offers 3 reasonable options. Android, iOS or Windows Phone. All have features the other doesn't and all have their selective markets. Its down to the individual to decide whether these features on each are worth having or not and we make decisions on what best suits our needs. I don't really have an opinion on a notification light but then again that is a minor detail of a products design, important to some and not to others. I certainly wouldn't put any considerable time into arguing the pro's or con's of it.

I'm with The Game 161 here but with different preferences. Android doesn't compete with iOS for my 'own' needs because there are fundamental things I can do with the iPhone that I couldn't with Android. For others it is the other way round and its what is best for you rather than what is indisputably outright best full stop. Its always interesting to hear different opinions but that is what they are. :)
 

Savor

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I don't feel threatened and I'm not afraid to admit it if I was.

Alot of us started out on iOS. We KNOW how good it is over there. We know BOTH sides. I was once trying to defend Apple four years ago. But to say we will never experience something as beautiful as Apple's experience...?

LOL

Who feels threatened here? When alot of us ARE ENJOYING something, just because we try to explain a good experience, don't we have the right to share it? Share the good news? I know everything I needed to know with iOS in maybe a few months. I'm still learning something new with Android after three years.

A little judgemental on Android users, you think? Useless thread from a useless observation pigeonholing Android fans as insecure when iOS users always blinded from the truth. Go back to the iPhone forum and argue among yourselves that your iPhone 6 is better than 6 Plus or vice-versa.
 
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