I still wished the iPhone SE 4 should be based on the iPhone 13 mini, but with Touch ID on an enlarged power button and a single rear camera sensor.
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iPhone SE 4 Details: Action Button, USB-C Port, Face ID, and More
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For real. Some may say they prefer it, but try finding another brand with a smartphone released in the last 4 years which looks remotely similar.
Oh no, this sounds even more expensive than the current SE which I find too expensive already.
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I don't mind the notch or the dynamic island as they are part of the top bar of the phone along with the clock and status icons. I don't spend too much time looking at that part of the screen anyway.
But there is more viewable content on notch/island phones than chin/forehead phones as the latter phones have tons of dead glass on the front taking up space.
Look at that picture of the old SE and tell me there is a reason for all that dead black glass to be there. To me it's wasted space.
But Apple decided "maybe we should put more screen there!"
No way this gets the action button over the more expensive iPhone 15 and 15 Plus.
Why are several folks here calling this the next "mini"? Because it's cheaper than the others? The iPhone 14, which this is rumored to be based off of, is significantly larger than the 12/13 mini. The iPhone 14 is nearly identically the same dimensions/weight as the iPhone 15. Many of us really like/liked the mini because of its form factor not because of its price. And many of us would pay a premium for a Pro-level mini.
I really hope this has an LCD display. Please, please, please. iPhone 11's LCD display is so good, and it's PWM free, which is the most important factor.
You say that but the sales on the regular model weren't there. It's like the people who claim the iPad mini Pro is a sales monster just waiting to be unleashed, but the sales are reflected in that Apple's kept it on a 2-4 year refresh cycle since the mini 2.
From my perspective, this is the worst rumor. I was really hoping they would keep an LCD if not the retain the home button as well.
Because the iPhone 16 and 16 plus are getting the action button, and my guess is that this iPhone SE 4 will launch after those.
You're assuming SE4 is dropping in 2024.
It's not.
iPhones 16 and 16 Plus, or 17 and 17 Plus, will get the Action Button and move to either a 90Hz or 120Hz display (displays on Pros will also have upgraded at that point).
SE4 will then launch in the following Q1 or Q2 with the 14's display, non-Dynamic Island notch, etc., and can then also get the Action Button.
Thought so too. Maybe it is meant to be released only next year Sept when the iPhone 16 and 16 plus gets the action button.
I still remember when the screen ratio of smartphones was 9:16. That was good for videos in landscape mode. Then 9:18 became common and now 9:19 or worse on some smartphones. If they want to give us more screen space, they should make the screen wider, not taller. That would make websites much more readable and videos would be larger.
The space does not have to be wasted. Buttons could be there or really good speakers or cameras. It could also act as a buffer zone to protect the screen. Is it too much to ask to have rectangular screens?
Apple should at least give users the option to always turn those areas off.
Then you're getting a new iPhone 11 because Apple certainly won't break the SE formula and spend R&D putting LCDs into the 12/13/14 design.
It's cheaper for Apple to reuse the parts and design of the 12/13/14 generation over doing r&d for some new hybrid iPhone with an LCD display but the body of an OLED iPhone, like 12/13/14.
-SE is not about creating a new product as much as it is about revamping and reusing as much as possible from an older iPhone while still making it attractive enough to sell well.
I have taken your suggestions and forwarded them to Tim Cook.
But remember:
🎵 You Can't Always Get What You Want 🎵 - The Rolling Stones
Because this phone won’t ship until late 2024 at the earliest, and it’s likely that, just like the dynamic island before it, the action button will be moved on down to the entire iPhone 16 lineup
I want, and many of us do, the home button, bezels, headphone jack and convenient size... and no notch, just like the current SE. Make the phone thicker if needed for cooling, yes, do that.
I don't see the combo of a forehead and a chin as an advantage. But that's the fun part - different strokes.
On paper, this looks like a pretty solid upgrade. It all comes down to cost. I'll be shocked if it starts at $429.
Wasn't the SE meant to maintain a Home button iPhone in the lineup? Less tech savvy folks have trouble with the swipe up gesture based iOS. Perhaps they could covert the action button to Home in an Accessibility menu and chosen at setup.
If they're moving past the Home button in the SE, then I'd favour using the iPhone mini and calling it just that, iPhone mini instead of SE. No numbers, like the iPad mini, and it'd be updated every other year and sit at the bottom of the lineup as an inexpensive entry model.
If they're moving past the Home button in the SE, then I'd favour using the iPhone mini and calling it just that, iPhone mini instead of SE. No numbers, like the iPad mini, and it'd be updated every other year and sit at the bottom of the lineup as an inexpensive entry model.
I still fondle an old iPhone 6 I have laying around, I really do miss that tiny little form factor although preferring the 6's really nice wraparound style, if only it didn't have the huge touch ID and bezels.
Yeah, I bought an iPhone SE 3 because I like it’s shape and weight (and the LCD screen is easier on my eyes), knowing that it will be the last of their species.
But also, there are many older people who find it easier to use an iPhone with a home button. However, I understand it’s almost a 10 year old design and Apple and most of their customers want to move on. That’s why I’ll probably buy a second unit.
I think they just consolidated both into the SE as there are no rumors about a new mini. Makes sense if neither sold very well. Personally I think "mini" makes more sense in the Apple ecosystem and is easy to envision for consumers. Where SE makes you think "special edition."
I wonder if Apple will drop the iPhone 14 and replace it with the new SE next year rather than the 14 dropping to the tier currently occupied by the iPhone 13. The USB-C legislation will be coming in so the iPhone 14 would need to be redesigned in order to be legal in the EU so I am wondering if the iPhone 14 is withdrawn and the new SE is dropped in with to replace it. What the SoC and price are, I'm not sure.