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iPhone SE 4 Details: Action Button, USB-C Port, Face ID, and More

bobthebuilderissus said:
people who dont wanna go into debt also want a iphone
people with OLED sensitiveness want a iphone
people who dont want a stupidly huge phone want a iphone
people who wear glasses want a iphone that doesnt make them set up 16 faces on face ID
people who prefer touch ID want a iphone
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My brother, who makes very good money, uses a SE on purpose because he wanted to break his phone addiction. He loves the setup, make and receive phone calls, necessary texts, and only really important/urgent use of the internet and apps. I've considered the same for years, but I've only managed to delve even deeper into phone addiction with a folding phone and huge screen, sigh.

But for those all in on addiction, I can totally see a SE being a supplement to carrying an iPad mini around.
 
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Omega Mac said:
How about instead of it being an action button that is like the iPad touchID button on the side. That would keep touch ID and remove it from the screen area on a iPhone, now that would be a very cool. That's an SE worth waiting for. This would be the island free version of a full screen iPhone.

Also don't want FaceID, don't need it or OLED thanks.
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Maybe.

I’m personally not a fan of the iPhone lineup not having a small option for those who prefer or in some cases need a smaller display to navigate with 1 hand. Even the iPad lineup has a significantly smaller display option for those who want it.

So in many ways I’m hoping these rumors are way way off.
 
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eric89074 said:
For god's sake just throw an A17 and 6GB memory in a 13 mini and call it a day!
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Make it a few mm thicker and give it battery life for days. The dream.... I just bought the 15 Pro Max because I want longer battery life. If they had a 16 mini with comparable battery life I would go back to that form factor immediately.
 
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iPhone SE was always very attractive for teenagers (with small hands).
It was compact, affordable and good enough featurewise.
An iPhone 14 formfactor would be absolute nonsense, due to the fact having 3 identical sized iPhones in the pipeline.
iPhone SE, iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro.

iPhone Mini formfactor makes much more sense for people from age 10 - 16 (the school phone from parents at christmas). Asus Zenphone at compact size is waiting to get this place.
 
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trusso said:
No home button, no sale.

How many times do I have to keep saying this?

And before the kneepad crowd starts harping on me, there is a sizable contingent of users for whom Face ID is not a solution, or who simply prefer Touch ID. Keeping a single phone in the line-up with Touch ID doesn't hurt you, so back the frick off. :mad:
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My mother has an SE. she will be nearly 90 next year when I will likely replace her phone for her. I shudder at the idea of her having to deal with facial recognition. Which will punish me tenfold times whatever frustration she experiences with it.

So yes, the home button is very important.
 
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Suicidy said:
My mother has an SE. she will be nearly 90 next year when I will likely replace her phone for her. I shudder at the idea of her having to deal with facial recognition. Which will punish me tenfold times whatever frustration she experiences with it.

So yes, the home button is very important.
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Yes it’s so complex.

Since I got a Face ID iPhone I have to yell “ENGAGE FACIAL RECOGNITION” followed by a 15-step dance every time I need to unlock my phone.

Or I just look at my phone and swipe up. That’s literally it. If it fails, I tap my passcode, same as with Touch ID.

You can even bypass Face ID entirely to use just passcode, and before you say your mother struggles with passcode, every biometric system Apple has implemented falls back on passcode after a certain period of time has passed or certain conditions are met, so your mother already has to deal with passcode daily.

So maybe give your mother some credit and also stop thinking that a system that Apple designed to be seamless for everyone can only be comprehended by your young, brilliant mind.
 
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Duck this. Hope this is way wrong. Apple, we need just single small phone. You don’t need 5 phones at 6.1 inches. Think about how absurd the lineup would be in 2025.

iPhone 17 - 6.1
iPhone 17 Pro - 6.1
iPhone 16 - 6.1
iPhone 15 - 6.1
iPhone SE - 6.1

Like WTF? These hardware changes are already super incremental each year and with major diminishing returns. Unless they go flip/fold phones which is a dumb gimmick if you ask me, this would be the most homogenous boring lineup with little to differentiate between them other than price. Just one damn small phone for ducks sake. Keep the current design or at least make it the mini design.
 
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What strange times we live in. Where the introduction of a new single button on the side instead of a slider is reason enough to mention. But no, there is even a brand name for this button, you need to constantly mention it at the innovation level, all bloggers are delighted to tell how great the Action Button is. Just an extra button. On the phone. A button. What has become of us all?
 
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bniu said:
Keep the price low. Perfect device for a BYOD work phone. Since my company will lock down even personal devices in their BYOD program, I prefer to keep a separate phone for company email/chat functions. The entry level SE will be the perfect device for that.
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A $499 iPhone SE that’s basically the iPhone 13. I would like that. My 14PM is to heavy and I’m really disgusted by the dynamic island. I won’t be upgrading till it’s completely gone. Or replaced with something that doesn’t take my screen space to make a tiny sliver of screen above it that has zero functionality.
 
Skyscraperfan said:
But it has a notch! The main advantage of the SE was not having a notch or a dynamic island.

A single camera is not a lot for a phone in that price range.
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<sigh>

I guess my hopes for an SE+ aren't going to happen. All I want is a fast 5G iPhone the size of the 6S+ with a Touch ID home button and NO STUPID NOTCH OR PILL.

One camera is FINE. I don't really even want the stupid selfie camera.

(And a headphone jack. I also want a headphone jack. Ideally the home button would be an actual button, just like the 6S+. You know, the 6S+ was really the perfect iPhone, if it supported current iOS I'd still be using it as my primary phone instead of this stupid XS Max with the stupid notch and no home button. And NO, the current SE won't cut it, the screen is too small.)
 
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trusso said:
No home button, no sale.

How many times do I have to keep saying this?

And before the kneepad crowd starts harping on me, there is a sizable contingent of users for whom Face ID is not a solution, or who simply prefer Touch ID. Keeping a single phone in the line-up with Touch ID doesn't hurt you, so back the frick off. :mad:
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I agree 100%
 
Touch ID works well on our 3rd gen iPhone SEs. Our friends who are visually impaired tell us they also find Touch ID an asset. A basic next iPhone SE: one camera, one-handed usage, and Touch ID in some physical form (home button or side button), full screen display and 128GB base storage would encourage us to look at it seriously. Price would be a factor in addition for us.
 
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