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With the M2 Air being an LCD screen I thought Apple might care about people who have unavoidable issues using OLED screens by giving them an option, clearly it was just about pricing and these people are disposable in the grand scheme of things. Looks like I'm stuck on iPhone 11 for the foreseeable future.
 
I wonder if Apple will drop the iPhone 14 and replace it with the new SE next year rather than the 14 dropping to the tier currently occupied by the iPhone 13. The USB-C legislation will be coming in so the iPhone 14 would need to be redesigned in order to be legal in the EU so I am wondering if the iPhone 14 is withdrawn and the new SE is dropped in with to replace it. What the SoC and price are, I'm not sure.

The whole EU mandated shift to USB-C might could indeed come in favor of those hoping for an earlier SE4 release, as Apple may be forced to switch things up and retire all Lightning iPhones from the line-up at the 2024 September iPhone event.

With SE3, iPhone 13, and 14 gone by Q4 2024 (December 28), it would seem Apple needs a new budget friendly USB-C iPhone no later than Q4 2024 or Q1 2025 or potentially lose a lot of sales to the <$799 demographic.

Some kind of 11/Xr or 12/13/14 style SE4 could fill that gap very nicely.
 
Will take quite some time for Apple to release the new SE. Wonder how much the price will be.
With iPhones 15 moving to USB-C, and the EU prohibiting Apple from selling products like SE3, iPhones 13 and 14 post December 28 2024, I actually think this new SE will arrive much sooner than previously expected.

Think Q4 2024 to Q1-Q2 2025.

And besides the EU mandate taking effect, most iPhone loyalists are now fully aware that every new Apple product will be USB-C moving forward making sales of iPhones 14 and earlier increasingly harder, much harder than selling older iPhones has been in previous years.
 
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Why would the SE get the action button when the more expensive 15 and 15 plus didn't?
Feels like a 2025 release right? Or one in September 24 when it’ll be clear that this phone is clearly lacking features that the regular iPhone has.
 
You're assuming SE4 is dropping in 2024.

It's not.

iPhones 16 and 16 Plus, or 17 and 17 Plus, will get the Action Button and move to either a 90Hz or 120Hz display (displays on Pros will also have upgraded at that point).

SE4 will then launch in the following Q1 or Q2 with the 14's display, non-Dynamic Island notch, etc., and can then also get the Action Button.
Agreed. With a 60hz display and no dynamic island it’ll feel very ‘early 2020s last gen’ by early 2025.

I do like that they’re just providing one camera to keep the price down.

Definitely for people who just want to point and shoot.

And now they get to zoom or not to zoom.
 
With those kind of specs, if true, it's not going to be a cheap phone and it will have an odd place in the line-up, especially compared to a refurbished iPhone 14 (pro) in mint condition.
Wow I bet you’re right.

So mini fans ummm ‘rejoice’ - it will be a mini. Just not the mini that you want, of course.
 
The whole EU mandated shift to USB-C might could indeed come in favor of those hoping for an earlier SE4 release, as Apple may be forced to switch things up and retire all Lightning iPhones from the line-up at the 2024 September iPhone event.

With SE3, iPhone 13, and 14 gone by Q4 2024 (December 28), it would seem Apple needs a new budget friendly USB-C iPhone no later than Q4 2024 or Q1 2025 or potentially lose a lot of sales to the <$799 demographic.

Some kind of 11/Xr or 12/13/14 style SE4 could fill that gap very nicely.
I believe it only applies to new models released after the mandate. Apple could still keep on selling the 14 models in 2024 for example.

But I bet when this is launched the iPhones 14 will disappear from sale so they have a fully usb-c lineup.
 
No way this gets the action button over the more expensive iPhone 15 and 15 Plus.
How about instead of it being an action button that is like the iPad touchID button on the side. That would keep touch ID and remove it from the screen area on a iPhone, now that would be a very cool. That's an SE worth waiting for. This would be the island free version of a full screen iPhone.

Also don't want FaceID, don't need it or OLED thanks.
 
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With the M2 Air being an LCD screen I thought Apple might care about people who have unavoidable issues using OLED screens by giving them an option, clearly it was just about pricing and these people are disposable in the grand scheme of things. Looks like I'm stuck on iPhone 11 for the foreseeable future.
All MBs have LCDs. Even the pros. Just smaller LEDs
 
It would be great if Apple could continue to incorporate 'small' and 'affordable' into its iPhone lineup. I think they'll continue with at least one affordable model (relatively speaking) but it's disappointing that they seem to have given up on small.
 
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OLED!!! 😡

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So what mini are u thinking of? Not mini size, not mini price. Mini camera?
I was joking.

Unfortunately for those that love the mini, I think that this rumour shows once and for all, that the SE brand was never about providing a smaller phone.

It's about making a cheaper (for consumers but especially for Apple re. manufacturing costs), 'basic' iPhone using a mishmash of slightly older parts and a form factor that Apple knows is popular.

The good news is that the iPhone 13 mini is still a really good phone.

But it's not great news for those that want / need a modern LCD phone.
 
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I don't see why they didn't use the mini chassis for the next SE.

This phone with OLED, Face ID, action button, USB-C, etc. seems like it will canibilize the flagship phones.

I suspect a price increase.
 
If the price is $399 this will sell like crazy, it will be great, especially for grandparents and kids who don't care about the latest most innovative iPhone.
 
I don't see why they didn't use the mini chassis for the next SE.

This phone with OLED, Face ID, action button, USB-C, etc. seems like it will canibilize the flagship phones.

I suspect a price increase.
If they’re doing two years of mini and two years of plus size, we might see an iPhone 16 mini. But, since there’s a lack of rumors on it right now, I probably wouldn’t get my hopes up.

Though, I can see the marketing - “The Mini is back!”
 
The home button on the SE3 isn’t even a real button. It hasn’t been since the 6s, I believe. It always throws me off because I went from 6s to Xs. They could just create an accessibility feature for the SE4 that makes the phone have a static home button at the bottom, using the OLED display to create fake bezels at the bottom and top.
 
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So those of us with PWM issues are left out in the cold again, I'm not leaving the walled garden, Apple is shoving me out. Right now I'm alternating between an 11 and a SE2022, I prefer the bigger screen of the 11 and the better cameras, but the modem and processer on the SE2022 are better. Once those are no longer supported, I guess I'll either find an Android LCD phone if there are still any around or get me an old person Jitterbug flip phone.
 
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