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iPhone SE 4's Design Revealed in CAD Renders

Good to have the SE look like all the other modern iPhones. FaceID will be a nice addition.
 
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beginnersview said:
So, reading through many of these post comments, seems the consensus is mostly that Apple won't sell a smaller Mini/SE sized phone going forward is due to the larger phones having larger sales and higher profit generation for Apple.
The SE (3rd gen) is still offered for sale, as Apple's current and only small form factor iPhone.
One could *hope* that (one of) the richest companies in the world could use a bit of its tons of cash to continue to provide a model which users with smaller hands actually want, need and clamor for.
Several folks in my family fall squarely into this category, and would wish to upgrade in the future but NOT to a too-big-to-use 'regular' iPhone.
So... there is a possibility that Apple could keep the SE (3rd gen) alive for sale in its stores, or replace it with a similar not yet disclosed/rumored smallish iPhone. Maybe another/new reboot "mini" or "Se" (Big S little e).
Or they could just continue down their path of total greed and don't give a sh--- about customers with small hands by only selling larger higher profit phones. (starting to sound like an American SUV car company pathway...)
One could hope they remember their customer base is varied.
And while they make an effort to be accommodating to differently-abled persons, they may not be thinking that small hands are worth their effort. Who knows what transpires in the minds of those directors/planners.
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I don't even have what would be considered "small" hands, but I love the SE 3rd gen form factor and don't want anything bigger. You're damn straight - like they can't possibly have a MINI or anything these days? Just force everybody into bigger phones they don't want? I think it's gross and whoever's making these decisions is a massive tool.
 
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GeoStructural said:
This is the iPhone SE fans deserve.
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Why? If you're not going to buy it, why should you get something you want?

I've got from iPhone 8 to 2020 iPhone SE to 2022 iPhone SE. 6.1 inches is too big. Face ID means that those ridiculous gestures will be necessary to replace one button. It would have been less expensive to put an in-screen fingerprint reader than to use Face ID.
 
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To be quite frank, Apple doesn't care what mini lovers want. As far as they're concerned, bigger phone = better sales = more profit. It's no coincidence they keep making them bigger.
 
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winxmac said:
Bezels close enough to iPhone XR and iPhone 11

It'd be nice if this used the mini form factor...

If not for the bigger battery, I would have gone iPhone 14 Pro...

I miss the iPhone SE 2016 and iPhone 5c
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Respectfully, the iPhone 5c was a flop. A huge flop. Probably the last iPhone to legitimately flop.
 
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N69AP said:
I agree, I think it will be $549. By the time this launches, the 14 will drop to the $599 price point that the 13 currently occupies. Both the SE 1 and SE 2 undercut the phones the succeeded by $50, costing $399 compared to $449 for the 5s and 8.

I'm curious what happens with the $429 price point though. I have a hard time believing they would continue to sell the SE 3, but I also can't imagine Apple wants its entry level iPhone to have such a high price point.
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They can’t sell the SE 3 for too much longer in Europe. It has lightning.

EDIT: While commenters have clarified Apple could still sell the SE 3 in Europe since it came out in 2022, that’s not what Apple does. They won’t have an entire line go to USB-C and just leave one out there. I don’t see it.

Also, I’ve got the feeling if you like Touch ID and/or like a small phone, I think it’s the end of the road for you. I don’t see a Touch ID iPhone or a 5 inch iPhone ever coming down the road.
 
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TigerNike23 said:
Respectfully, the iPhone 5c was a flop. A huge flop. Probably the last iPhone to legitimately flop.
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I thought I heard it was a flop initially, but sales picked up slowly and it eventually became a relative success. I have no reference though, just going from memory.
 
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Very simple, Apple knows the Mini phones don't sell as well as the larger models. Why would they infest in designing a smaller model if nobody is going to buy it? That's just bad business practice.
 
I don't need dynamic island. I don't need 5 fancy cameras. I don't need the super-duper display with peak brightness shadowing the Sun. I don't need action buttons. I don't need titanium or other premium enclosures.

What I need is an iPhone with the latest A-chip, excellent battery life, small and slim form factor and Apple's top build quality.
 
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SanderEvers said:
Very simple, Apple knows the Mini phones don't sell as well as the larger models. Why would they infest in designing a smaller model if nobody is going to buy it? That's just bad business practice.
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After so many years of designing and manufacturing the iPhone, I don't really think that it is so expensive or complicated for Apple to release a mini variant of its flagship phone ditching non-essential and very expensive features such as multiple cameras, dynamic island, action button, titanium enclosure, premium coatings and finishing, the latest and greatest in display technology, etc, etc.
 
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ThomasJL said:
Let me guess: No SIM card slot for the American models so Tim Cook can save money on manufacturing costs, in order to not pass that savings on to customers, in order to maximize profits?

For those of us who travel internationally, many of us need a SIM card slot. But I'm sure plenty of people on this forum will defend Cook's anti-consumer actions and say he's doing an excellent job because Apple's stock is doing well.
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I 100% agree about the SIM card slot being useful (just like the headphone jack btw, nothing beats just buy a cheap pair of wired buds when you have forgotten/lost your while away from home).

The thing is, you wouldn’t even notice these savings if they were passed on. They only have an effect in gigantic volumes like the lifetime sales of an entire product line.
The question is if a trillion dollar company has to rely on these savings. They certainly did not get Apple stocks where it is now value-wise and seem more like a performance for shareholders, a signal that, first and foremost, Apple will do anything to optimize shareholder value.
I think that is what makes these cost-cutting measures so particularly disgusting.
 
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FlimFlamDude said:
Better? How? My Touch ID has worked perfectly for years with zero problems whatsoever. What's the problem? Why does the new iPad mini I bought for my wife just months ago still have Touch ID on the power button?
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I agree - Touch ID is amazing and it is one of the reasons why I try to keep my iPhone SE 2020 for as long as possible.
I just had my battery replaced on it.
 
All this is making me ask "what's the point of the regular iPhone?"

If this rumour is true, then next year you would walk into an Apple store and see a 6.1" iPhone with the latest chip, dynamic island and main/ultrawide cameras for $799 or a different 6.1! iPhone with the latest chip, notch and main camera for $430. For a regular person that doesn't scour the web to find out how much RAM an iPhone has, why would anyone pick the regular iPhone? If they care about cameras they are likely to spring for the Pro. If they're not fussed, are they really going to to pay almost double for the dynamic island? Even if there is a storage capacity difference, this isn't going to make up the price difference.
 
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