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iPhone iPhone SimFree FREE tool (iUnlock) released...

MacAerfen said:
I find it amusing how many people try to justify doing this with claims that it is not illegal. Any reverse engineered software modification is very illegal.
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I am not a lawyer, but cell phone unlocking appears to be perfectly legal

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20061124-8280.html
The provision likely to be of most interest to consumers is the one allowing cell phones to be unlocked and used on other networks. The Copyright Office allowed this exception because the software that prohibits users from accessing their phone's firmware has little to do with copyright and much to do with a business model. "The underlying activity sought to be performed by the owner of the handset is to allow the handset to do what it was manufactured to do—lawfully connect to any carrier," writes the government in explanation. "This is a noninfringing activity by the user... The purpose of the software lock appears to be limited to restricting the owner’s use of the mobile handset to support a business model, rather than to protect access to a copyrighted work itself."
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It may or not break an agreement you implicitly signed with Apple or AT&T, but that's not against the law, and it's not our responsibility to police those agreements.

arn
 
Unlocking a cell phone may be, however, in this case to do so you are breaking the software license by modifying the iPhone's OS. So in fact unlocking the iPhone itself is not illegal, doing so in a way that modify's the OS does break the software license agreement which is illegal.
 
MacAerfen said:
So in fact unlocking the iPhone itself is not illegal, doing so in a way that modify's the OS does break the software license agreement which is illegal.
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It may or may not be a breach of some contract, but it's not "illegal" in the usual sense of the word.

(But this digresses from the point. Whether or not you think its "right" to publish this news, it's certainly news-worthy and will be on CNN, MSNBC etc... by morning...)

arn
 
MacAerfen said:
When you opened your iPhone and decided to use it you agreed to this software user license, which indicates that you will not modify the software on the iPhone.
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The validity of shrinkwrap EULAs is questionable. In a sane legal system they'd be laughed out of court.

This is no different from pirating a copy of an OS or using a single license version on multiple computers.
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Um, yes, it is, in the same way that speeding is different from auto theft. Not even that, since speeding actually is illegal and it's not clear that this is.
 
Working on China Mobile

I have an iphone working on China Mobile.

However, everytime I reboot the phone, I have to do a launchctl unload ... and then launchctl load with the sim card removed from the phone.

Also, this has to be done if I change the SIM card to another company - I tried Taiwan Chunghwa Telecom.
 
thats Right ! we bought it we own it and we do what we want! Go and Take care of thoose People Murdering outside or Planing new Terrorism.


IPHONE HACKING what a BIG Deal i just want to Call my Mom from a nother Network like Tmobile.
 
So, minicom is working after a re-do of the process, and everything looks like it worked. However, when I put in a new SIM, will I need to do any sort of reactivation, if I've already used iNdependence to activate it (not iTunes)? Or, will it just pick up T-Mobile instantly? I ask because I don't actually have another provider's SIM on-hand, want to try it with a co-worker's SIM tomorrow morning and don't want to have any unpleasant surprises.

EDIT: Hmmm, new unpleasant surprise: I can't seem to get through a sync with iTunes without it dying and insisting that it has lost the connection with the phone. I'm gonna try putting it back in jail for this sync and see what happens.
 
MacAerfen said:
I find it amusing how many people try to justify doing this with claims that it is not illegal. Any reverse engineered software modification is very illegal.

People should read http://images.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/iphone.pdf before going ahead with this. When you opened your iPhone and decided to use it you agreed to this software user license, which indicates that you will not modify the software on the iPhone. This is no different from pirating a copy of an OS or using a single license version on multiple computers.

People will do whatever they want but honestly, this really shouldnt be on MacRumors and people shouldn't be advocating that it is not illegal.
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Have you ever taken a government class in school? Since when does a company's (i.e. Apple's) lawyers make the laws a citizen must abide by?
 
mm1250 said:
You people are so funny... :rolleyes:

YOu think only AT&T is getting scrwed and Apple could care less that the iPhones are getting unlocked. .. ummmm. NO, Apple does care BIG TIME!

Apple is reproted to get roughly $10/mo from ATT per service plan that uses the iPhones. That Means, if there are over 1million hack phones, they would be loosing roghly 120million a year.

So yes, Apple would get affected by using another carrier since they get no profit sharing with ATT on that.
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This is pretty awful logic, most people who unlock the iphone would never have bought it if they were stuck to AT&T. Case in point: everyone outside the US cant use the iphone unless its unlocked, its not like they can lose the money if people who are buying it cant use AT&T.
 
Partial success

Used method: http://modmyiphone.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_software_unlock_iPhone_iUnlock

In addition to steps described there, I did

1) "mkdir -p /usr/local/etc" before "minicom -s" to create the directory in which the file was saved.

2) CommCenter didn't start again when doing launchctl load (something like "nothing to start"), so I added the -w parameter:
launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.CommCenter.plist

Network: Si.mobil/Vodafone, Slovenia

Everything seems to work _EXCEPT INCOMING CALLS_!
 
jakaj said:
Partial success

Used method: http://modmyiphone.com/wiki/index.php/How_to_software_unlock_iPhone_iUnlock

In addition to steps described there, I did

1) "mkdir -p /usr/local/etc" before "minicom -s" to create the directory in which the file was saved.

2) CommCenter didn't start again when doing launchctl load (something like "nothing to start"), so I added the -w parameter:
launchctl load -w /System/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.apple.CommCenter.plist

Network: Si.mobil/Vodafone, Slovenia

Everything seems to work _EXCEPT INCOMING CALLS_!
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I suggest doing everything over using this tutorial
 
now I really don't care anymore that the calender input was disabled on the ipod touch :D

iPhone dubidooo iPhone
 
vega07 said:
I suggest doing everything over using this tutorial
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It's a known mobile operator problem here atm. With the other one, it works OK. They say they're working on it.

Edit: actually I haven't tested myself whether it works with the other mobile operator (will do later today), but there have been reports from others with exactly the same issue.
 
For those of you who are using T-mobile in the US, what data plan are you using? the BB plan or the Sidekick plan? im curious as right now i have the Dash and wondering if my current plan is good or if i can go to a sidekick plan.
 
psingh01 said:
Have you ever taken a government class in school? Since when does a company's (i.e. Apple's) lawyers make the laws a citizen must abide by?
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Exactly! I don't know the US legal system enough to say this for sure, but in most sane legal systems laws are above contracts, meaning that if a contract breaks the law in some points these points become non binding or so. AFAIK there's some law/regulation that allows for SIM locks to be broken. So much for EULAs. Fortunately companies don't (directly) make laws (yet...)!
 
EvilDoc said:
For those of you who are using T-mobile in the US, what data plan are you using? the BB plan or the Sidekick plan? im curious as right now i have the Dash and wondering if my current plan is good or if i can go to a sidekick plan.
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wondering the same thing, i am going to sign up tomorrow. will any sim that comes with a tmobile phone work?
 
Question

despite all the hopefully successful unlocking possibilities, doesn't the iPhone bought from apple or att have to be activated.

therefore the iPhone has to pay monthly fees?
 
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