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I think between the iPhone 5, iPad 3, iPod touch, iPad mini ans iMac refresh, they simpy don't have the production resources to also focus on the Mac mini line.

I've considered that too but since Apple essentially outsources all production this doesn't seem to hold much weight in my mind for more than a few seconds. There are plenty of companies that have production capacity available for fulfilment. Maybe internal(to Apple) engineering resources might be a more valid shortage? Cash reserves point to something else all together though...not heartening.
 
I've considered that too but since Apple essentially outsources all production this doesn't seem to hold much weight in my mind for more than a few seconds. There are plenty of companies that have production capacity available for fulfilment. Maybe internal(to Apple) engineering resources might be a more valid shortage? Cash reserves point to something else all together though...not heartening.

Not really.
They have to manufacture in China, to make their insane profit margins.
And I'm retry sure, Fixconn is probably operating at max capacity as it is.
 
Yeah, you're probably right. We'll just keep waiting because Ivy Bridge is so hard to implement. Obviously everybody else rolled out the new processors incorrectly. :D

no it is simple. you don't need native usb3 for a mac desktop.

not if you have t-bolt. apple has lingered and will continue to linger not offering usb3 on desktops for as long as they can. basically for most users of desktops there are a few solutions to the lack of usb3. so apple is forcing you to get them.

for your portable gear usb3 has been provided.

but for a desktop go out and buy a t-bolt adapter from seagate and a usb 3 adapter. this will be about 200 bucks for mac desktop users. this allows you to make a 2011 imac/macmini blend with your portable macbook air or macbook pro. lacie now has a rugged usb3/t-bolt solution that can blend your 2011 imac/macmini with a new macbook pro. 199 for the ssd.

I don't like it but it is obvious this is what has happened. apple has never pushed really good graphic cards so now you are a bit further behind. I also don't like that.
 
I'm hoping something will drop between October 17th and October 24th.

I have a need for a "development database server" to bring to clients, and yes, a Mac Mini could actually do the task.

My guess is the server will feature a quad-core 2.3GHz Ivy Bridge processor (i7-3615QM, 6MB cache, 3.3GHz max turbo) like the base 15" MacBook Pro. It'd still have two DIMM slots which means now you can put 16GB in it, but you would be able to put in 32GB once 16GB SO-DIMM modules actually become available. With two SATA-III connectors, I'd replace the internal drives with two 512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSDs which should be available in the next 1-2 weeks as well.

A 3lb quad-core, 32GB memory box I can toss in a bag with 1TB of SSD that can sustain 15,000 random IOPS, and that doesn't need an AC adapter, makes for a great data warehouse demo server to bring along with a MacBook Air.
 
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I have a need for a "development database server" to bring to clients, and yes, a Mac Mini could actually do the task.

My guess is the server will feature a quad-core 2.3GHz Ivy Bridge processor (i7-3615QM, 6MB cache, 3.3GHz max turbo) like the base 15" MacBook Pro. It'd still have two DIMM slots which means now you can put 16GB in it, but you would be able to put in 32GB once 16GB SO-DIMM modules actually become available. With two SATA-III connectors, I'd replace the internal drives with two 512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSDs which should be available in the next 1-2 weeks as well.

A 3lb quad-core, 32GB memory box I can toss in a bag with 1TB of SSD that can sustain 15,000 random IOPS, and that doesn't need an AC adapter, makes for a great data warehouse demo server to bring along with a MacBook Air.
Awesome idea! :apple:
 
I'm hoping something will drop between October 17th and October 24th.

I have a need for a "development database server" to bring to clients, and yes, a Mac Mini could actually do the task.

My guess is the server will feature a quad-core 2.3GHz Ivy Bridge processor (i7-3615QM, 6MB cache, 3.3GHz max turbo) like the base 15" MacBook Pro. It'd still have two DIMM slots which means now you can put 16GB in it, but you would be able to put in 32GB once 16GB SO-DIMM modules actually become available. With two SATA-III connectors, I'd replace the internal drives with two 512GB Samsung 840 Pro SSDs which should be available in the next 1-2 weeks as well.

A 3lb quad-core, 32GB memory box I can toss in a bag with 1TB of SSD that can sustain 15,000 random IOPS, and that doesn't need an AC adapter, makes for a great data warehouse demo server to bring along with a MacBook Air.


why would you buy 2x samsung 840 pro ssd's and not samsung 830 ssd's?
no one has tested the new tech for durability. the 830's would be 90% of the speed of the 840's and are proven to run with great reliabilty.

I could see the logic if the 840's were sata IV and double the speed of the 830's but your speed gains would be small. the durabiltiy of the new transistors are suspect. plus you may get a good sale on the 830's as everyone rushes to get 840's.
 
why would you buy 2x samsung 840 pro ssd's and not samsung 830 ssd's?
Because it has "pro" in the name, duh.
"Pro" makes everything really really cool, except in Sweden where PRO is the acronym for our equivalent of the American Seniors Association.

/Typed on a laptop for seniors named MacBook Pro (with an awesome Samsung 830 inside)
 
Maybe internal(to Apple) engineering resources might be a more valid shortage? Cash reserves point to something else all together though...not heartening.
Yeah, product design resources are probably the bottleneck. It doesn't seem to matter how effing huge Apple becomes, they still somehow think they're a small company who can't yet handle this or that like the big boys can. When they were making the iPhone, people who were assigned to OS X Leopard were shifted to the iPhone OS team and Leopard was postponed a few months (and when it came out it was crazy buggy for an Apple release). And I'd imagine that Jony Ive still micromanages design in the tradition of him and Steve, so whenever there's iGadget frenzy he's busy fondling 200 different foam rubber models of some future iOS device and all Macs are on ice...
 
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Mac Mini supplies are still tight. I put my money on the end of october - probably short after Windows 8 is released. That's not a coincidence ...
 
My bet is by the end of October since I just bought a base 2011 Mini for my daughter yesterday. Or the day after my return window expires :)

Whatever the new version is, I would assume the base model will look just like the current, but will have all of the same comparable specs to the base 2012 13" MacBook Pro.
 
I think Haswell will be the next mini and you will prob see that around March - July next year.
 
My bet is by the end of October since I just bought a base 2011 Mini for my daughter yesterday. Or the day after my return window expires :)
I bought a base 2011 Mini recently too, perfectly aware of the fact that a spec bump is imminent. I only use it as a media center, and it replaced a 2006 Mini 1.66GHz which was still performing that particular task adequately but wouldn't upgrade to anything beyond Lion, so it was time for retirement. Its successor will perform its menial duties just fine for years.
In fact, between my '08 iMac 24" 2.4GHz and my '09 MBP 17" 2.8GHz, the '11 Mini 2.3GHz i5 may quite possibly be the most powerful Mac I own. ;)
 
I think you're right. And they may be able to put a quad core in the non-server models with Haswell.

They are already with Ivy Bridge. We won't see Haswell quad-cores with less than 35W TDP..
 
why would you buy 2x samsung 840 pro ssd's and not samsung 830 ssd's?

1) Because speed matters in demos.
2) Because cost of replacing SSDs in my line of business (independent data warehouse consultant) is negligible. The price difference between an 830 and the 840 Pro is a rounding error.

As for reliability, there's always a fallback -- the MacBook Air itself. If the SSDs in the Mini give up the ghost, and the MacBook Air has issues, well, then I'll just buy a lottery ticket on the way out after rescheduling with the client.
 
Why are you so sure? End of october was used pretty often to release new Macs and when you look at the iMac, an update is extremely overdue.

There are more iMac rumors than mini rumors for October, so most likely new iMac introduced along the iPad mini.

As I wrote before, the only mini machine we will get this year is probably the iPad mini.

Shows Apple's priorities. Desktop sales are just not that important for Apple in 2012 and going forward, especially Mac mini and Mac Pro lines. Look at the latest revenue numbers. Sad but true :(

Same for OS X iWork and other productivity updates...I could go on and on.
 
There are more iMac rumors than mini rumors for October, so most likely new iMac introduced along the iPad mini.

They won't introduce the iMac alone. When a iMac gets updated, the Mini will also be updated. You can't go strictly after rumors when it comes to products that hardly sell (in Apple terms) ... And yes, it may be only a silent update as opposed to maybe a keynote introduction for the new iMacs, but it will come until october 31st.
 
And yes, it may be only a silent update as opposed to maybe a keynote introduction for the new iMacs, but it will come until october 31st.

I hope you are right. A silent update could result in less rumors...on the other hand isnt it sad the mini became so 'unimportant' in the lineup there aren't even rumors?

At least we know from a Cook e-mail that a new Pro machine is coming in 2013.
 
I hope you are right. A silent update could result in less rumors...on the other hand isnt it sad the mini became so 'unimportant' in the lineup there aren't even rumors?

At least we know from a Cook e-mail that a new Pro machine is coming in 2013.

Yeah, that's kinda sad ... However, I won't complain if they release my dream machine (2,2 GHz quad-core, GT640/650M, 128GB SSD, sub-1000€-price tag). ;)

It's really sad the Mini isn't important at all for Apple ... but then again, it never was that important for them, so maybe we're just spoiled by the whole iOS-things.

Yep, the next Mac Pro should be a pretty big upgrade for the Pro users, but I'm not one of them, sadly.
 
I'm not sure either way... I guess the teller will be whether the Mac Mini supplies open up with the existing model, or they stay constrained and we get a new model.
 
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