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Is 2012 new mac mini coming?
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Since I last posted in this thread my need for a new computer will expedite 10 fold tomorrow when I sell my current computer 
I really wish there was some inkling of of information when the next mac mini is coming so I know to wait or not. Might have to just get the current mac mini and live with it.
the rumour of a better graphics card on the base mac mini and ivy bridge is really intriguing and makes me want to wait. Not to mention possible usb 3.0. I just wish i knew how long I would have to wait and the specs. Maybe Ill wait till' the September 12 event and perhaps magically they will announce the mac mini that day! (wishful thinking, lol).
I really wish there was some inkling of of information when the next mac mini is coming so I know to wait or not. Might have to just get the current mac mini and live with it.
the rumour of a better graphics card on the base mac mini and ivy bridge is really intriguing and makes me want to wait. Not to mention possible usb 3.0. I just wish i knew how long I would have to wait and the specs. Maybe Ill wait till' the September 12 event and perhaps magically they will announce the mac mini that day! (wishful thinking, lol).
I am an Apple user since one of the first few hundred Apple IIs in 1978.
Epiphany: I look today at my needs (eSATA or USB3, is this cutting edge???) and I see that Apple has an agenda that is not consistent with my needs. I never noticed that before, my bad.
B'bye.
huh? all i was saying was that i wish i knew when the next mac mini was coming... thats all.
Resale value on macs is good. At least 1 to 2 years or gens behind. So cave now and don't wait. And then resell it when the new one comes out.
that's true, I sold my 2007 mini for $400 a few months back. I can wait until the end of September, but then I gotta cave. School is coming, and I have a lot of music/video stuff I have been meaning to do.
im thinking the same at the moment. i have a feeling nothings coming September 12 either for the mac mini. probably just iphone and ipad mini launch event.
might be time to just get a refurb from apple website and live with it. i just really wish the current mini had usb 3.0 and i wouldn't hesitate so much. i sold my macbook pro today and im just bumming off my sisters computer so i need a computer soon.
might be time to just get a refurb from apple website and live with it. i just really wish the current mini had usb 3.0 and i wouldn't hesitate so much. i sold my macbook pro today and im just bumming off my sisters computer so i need a computer soon.
Sadly it's a sign of the times. When Apple was a struggling company with the very much mocked single button mouse they were grateful for all the custom they could get. They still had their fanboy base but they actually had to deliver competitive products to in order to thrive. I remember the late 80's/early 90's all too well.
Nowadays their reputation, which seems pretty much exclusively iPhone based, makes them so much money that they can do what they want. You read these forums and you see such a loyal user base base that are willing to part their money for the latest product. It sad that Apple has so much secrecy. I've been holding on for an iMac and indeed a Mac Mini but without the promise or even suggestion of a release date what are we to do... the sad fact is that people will gladly spend their money regardless. I fear that with the current competition, unless Apple steps up it's game and actually acknowledges it's user base it will go the same way as Nokia did. From market leader to obsolete. I couldn't care less what their release cycles are but to not inform the public of their marketing strategy is arrogant in the least.
I used to manage the IT infrastructure of a global bank for the north west of england. I'm my twilight years i've leaned towards hardware that 'just works'. And that's where Apple excels. It doesn't break because you can't fiddle with it. There's a lot to be said for denying user access... It's such a great strategy - all Apple products work with each other - they are idiot proof. Getting an Apple to work with anything else is another story... before you know it your one iPhone has turned into a network of iMacs, Mini's, Airports... It' just works....
The sad thing is that people are still buying the old tech - refusing to leave the brand. You only have to peruse the Mac Pro forums to see that. The success of the iPhone has killed their other hardware. They now make so much money that they don't seem to care. Still like the rest I'll hold out... after all we don't really need it... it's just a want... I just wish they would say ' this is our road map for the next three years '. that leads to informed choice, respect and a desire to wait for upcoming releases. Currently we know nothing and as sure as I am that they will update their hardware, they could easily not and still turn a massive profit... It's sad.
I just hope they don't do a Nokia...
Nowadays their reputation, which seems pretty much exclusively iPhone based, makes them so much money that they can do what they want. You read these forums and you see such a loyal user base base that are willing to part their money for the latest product. It sad that Apple has so much secrecy. I've been holding on for an iMac and indeed a Mac Mini but without the promise or even suggestion of a release date what are we to do... the sad fact is that people will gladly spend their money regardless. I fear that with the current competition, unless Apple steps up it's game and actually acknowledges it's user base it will go the same way as Nokia did. From market leader to obsolete. I couldn't care less what their release cycles are but to not inform the public of their marketing strategy is arrogant in the least.
I used to manage the IT infrastructure of a global bank for the north west of england. I'm my twilight years i've leaned towards hardware that 'just works'. And that's where Apple excels. It doesn't break because you can't fiddle with it. There's a lot to be said for denying user access... It's such a great strategy - all Apple products work with each other - they are idiot proof. Getting an Apple to work with anything else is another story... before you know it your one iPhone has turned into a network of iMacs, Mini's, Airports... It' just works....
The sad thing is that people are still buying the old tech - refusing to leave the brand. You only have to peruse the Mac Pro forums to see that. The success of the iPhone has killed their other hardware. They now make so much money that they don't seem to care. Still like the rest I'll hold out... after all we don't really need it... it's just a want... I just wish they would say ' this is our road map for the next three years '. that leads to informed choice, respect and a desire to wait for upcoming releases. Currently we know nothing and as sure as I am that they will update their hardware, they could easily not and still turn a massive profit... It's sad.
I just hope they don't do a Nokia...
I know. I'm saying I don't care any more, too late for me (at least for the current purchase).
Great post evilpaddy. I think your post really summarizes what a lot of people are thinking. Now if only Apple would read your post.
Ahhh I see. You know I haven't thought about getting a Windows machine in a long time. 06 was probably the last time I even considered getting a windows machine for my personal so use. Since then its been all mac but boy shafting us on even the basic stuff like usb 3.0 is making me think twice right now.
I just love how the mac's work without issue which is why im holding on right now but I feel like if I buy the current mac mini im getting duped of my money for old tech that is far exceeded by windows machines for the same amount of money.
i guess with no inkling of knowing when the next one is coming I either give in and just get the current mac mini or aftrer 6 years go back to windows
Possible? I think you'll find it's guaranteed. There's no way Apple would purposely disabled a feature built into the chipset, especially when they've already demonstrated that with their Ivybridge line of Macbooks.
Look at the 13" mbp and that is what you will get for the next mac mini. Add in the chance of a discrete Graphics Card. The question is when will it come? I was sure it would have been here by now... but now I think it won't show up until a month or so after the next iPhone is announced and being sold. Apple won't let anything get in the way of that.
Great post evilpaddy. I think your post really summarizes what a lot of people are thinking. Now if only Apple would read your post.
Ahhh I see. You know I haven't thought about getting a Windows machine in a long time. 06 was probably the last time I even considered getting a windows machine for my personal so use. Since then its been all mac but boy shafting us on even the basic stuff like usb 3.0 is making me think twice right now.
I just love how the mac's work without issue which is why im holding on right now but I feel like if I buy the current mac mini im getting duped of my money for old tech that is far exceeded by windows machines for the same amount of money.
i guess with no inkling of knowing when the next one is coming I either give in and just get the current mac mini or aftrer 6 years go back to windows
I agree with all of this, but I think you guys are really overplaying the "Macs just work" card.
I have been a Windows user since the 90's and it's been a pile of junk for most of the time. But you know what? Windows 7 is not bad. If they could just fix the incessant need for endless updates, they would be on to a winner.
I have been using a Mac now for perhaps 6 months. I really like it. Overall, I prefer it to Windows, just. Certain things are nice, other aspects suck. But overall it shades it.
But as to "it just works", does it just work any better than W7? Emphatically not. W7 has been every bit as reliable, arguably more so. Neither OS has crashed on me, ever. Have I had issues with OS X? Yes, I have.
"Macs just work" is fanboyism, nothing more, nothing less. I will stick with OS X so long as it's the better environment and so long as the Apple hardware price premium and performance lag is not so great as to push me away. Right now it's borderline as to whether I will stick with Mac. This lack of USB3 and reasonably priced Thunderbolt devices is a real turn off. You are faced with paying a fortune for a TB device because no USB3 exists. This situation really sucks and Apple should be hurry to remedy that, with either new USB3 capable Mac, cheap Thunderbolt to USB3 hubs or by helping to bring down TB peripheral costs.
The fact they are doing none of these things smacks to me of arrogance and not really giving a ***** about its customers.
Which, come to think of it, is probably true. I don't really think they do give a s*it about its desktop customers to be honest.
In the short term, they will probably get away with it because there are enough fanboys around who will put up with any old crap. But if they carry on ignoring the desktop, the shine will start to wear off and we will see more and more disenchanted users and negative reviews. And slowly but surely Apple will lose it's crown.
How silly it would be to let this happen.
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honestly im not contesting what your saying. i haven't used a windows machine full time since 06 so its very possible windows is decent now. I also am not arguing that Apple doesn't seem to care about its desktop customers and its very much possible there crown goes by the wayside. I know this is borderline dumb to say as companies are a by enlarge a team effort but Apple really has never proven to be a successful company without Steve Jobs.
But like the other fanboys if you wanna call us that... to me I still think this... Mac "just works". I have used windows in-between intermittently and they were still plagued by the same issues that drove me away from windows back in 06. That being said its not fair to use that as an assessment outcome until you have used windows full time for a while which i haven't done in a long time.
This is probably the most ghetto way of assessing where Apple is headed but if the next desktop computers from apple dont have cheaper tb alternatives or usb 3.0 I think I may just finally give windows a chance again as that to me at least shows Apple is not headed in the right direction as far as there computing goes.
With all that said im just a basic computer user for the most part so I leave the techies and people with more knowledge to make better assessments then myself and usually follow more knowledgeable people's lead. Most complex stuff I ever did on a computer was final cut pro and cs5. So take my opinion with a grain of salt, lol.
If Mac Pro's have theirs FB page, so should are beloved mini
http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-2012-Mac-mini/176874512446777?ref=hl
http://www.facebook.com/pages/We-Want-2012-Mac-mini/176874512446777?ref=hl
The talk on this thread about Apple's silence betraying their arrogance . . . well, I can't say this is the case. But it definitely hurts their image in our eyes.
I think to another top-of-their-game company, Blizzard. They announce that they're working on Starcraft II, and that "It'll be done when it's done", same with Diablo III. Everyone gets impatient, whines, gnashes their teeth . . . but they know that their beloved company is working hard on the next version of their baby. An exact date is not revealed, but the fact that it's going to happen is very comforting to everyone.
Apple. Can't wait for the new iMacs! . . . Wow, iMac's are kind of late this year, no? . . . Hey, are they even building new iMacs, or not? . . . Apple doesn't believe in the desktop anymore! . . . Another iPhone part ?!? [sounds of pitchforks and torches being grabbed by angry mob] . . .
Don't tell us the specifics. Keep your secrets for our sweet surprises. Keep your secrets to slow down the copycats. But for God's sake, why don't you flat out say "We're currently in the later stages of development for the next generation of our desktop line of computers, including the Mini, the iMac, and the Mac Pro, packed with new and powerful features. They'll be done when they're done!"
I think to another top-of-their-game company, Blizzard. They announce that they're working on Starcraft II, and that "It'll be done when it's done", same with Diablo III. Everyone gets impatient, whines, gnashes their teeth . . . but they know that their beloved company is working hard on the next version of their baby. An exact date is not revealed, but the fact that it's going to happen is very comforting to everyone.
Apple. Can't wait for the new iMacs! . . . Wow, iMac's are kind of late this year, no? . . . Hey, are they even building new iMacs, or not? . . . Apple doesn't believe in the desktop anymore! . . . Another iPhone part ?!? [sounds of pitchforks and torches being grabbed by angry mob] . . .
Don't tell us the specifics. Keep your secrets for our sweet surprises. Keep your secrets to slow down the copycats. But for God's sake, why don't you flat out say "We're currently in the later stages of development for the next generation of our desktop line of computers, including the Mini, the iMac, and the Mac Pro, packed with new and powerful features. They'll be done when they're done!"
All it takes is a mini-display port to hdmi adapter (about 5 bucks from monoprice.com) to use HDMI with a Thunderbolt port. I do it every day at my house (two monitors hooked via HDMI and yes audio is passed). I hope they would drop the HDMI for a more universal port (i.e a 2nd thunderbolt that can either do data, video or both!).
Yeah, but I would say that a HDMI would be used more than an additional thunderbolt port. Look at the rMBP, that has two thunderbolts and a HDMI- dispensing on the Ethernet and FireWire. I think the ability of HDMI to connect easily to monitors/Tvs without faffing around with stupid adaptors makes it undespensible.
Yes I agree. We all love the surprises, it's kind of a magic and part of being Apple crowd.
It'd be really nice if they unified the events somehow, there is some consistency now but it's nothing to rely on... well it's the Apple way.
+1 on the 2nd Thunderbolt port. Way more useful than HDMI. They could just put HDMI dongle in the packaging.
Since I last posted in this thread my need for a new computer will expedite 10 fold tomorrow when I sell my current computer
I really wish there was some inkling of of information when the next mac mini is coming so I know to wait or not. Might have to just get the current mac mini and live with it.
the rumour of a better graphics card on the base mac mini and ivy bridge is really intriguing and makes me want to wait. Not to mention possible usb 3.0. I just wish i knew how long I would have to wait and the specs. Maybe Ill wait till' the September 12 event and perhaps magically they will announce the mac mini that day! (wishful thinking, lol).
Some things are a given. USB3 is a given. Since they are supporting it in the ivy bridge spec on the other macs, you will see it in the mini. There's no reason not to support it as removing that support won't even cut construction costs by a few dollars. The same goes with gpu upgrades. On the low end Ivy has a different gpu this year. The discrete option would just migrate to something from a current generation.
The 2010 is popular for a specific reason. The 2011 will fall pretty quickly once a 2012 model is out the door. It's weird that they still haven't updated it.
But then you are stuck with a port that does one thing.... Oh sure if we could get two thunderbolt ports AND an HDMI then I am all for that, but if the choice is two thunderbolt ports (that can be used as an HDMI port) or One thunderbolt and One HDMI, it seems to me it would be more useful to the masses to give them two thunderbolt ports right? I mean people who have iMacs with two thunderbolts hook secondary monitors upto them with HDMI adapters all-day long and they don't complain....
I'd rather have a port that could be many things, than a port be stuck with a single purpose.....
Edit: Also making a point, if it has one thunderbolt port than you have to have daisy-chainable devices if you want to hook more than one thunderbolt item up (i.e you couldn't use both the TB to Firewire and a seagate goflex portable TB adapter because you only have one thunderbolt port). It is really limiting to having one. It's like having only one firewire port... If the device you hook up doesn't have a pass-thru port you are SOL.
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