But I also know that Apple may disappoint me too...
They will. The mini 2012 will not exist. The next comes in 2013.
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Is 2012 new mac mini coming?
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They will. The mini 2012 will not exist. The next comes in 2013.
I had the same thought. The promo could really just be a liquidation in disguise. Sell off as much old stock as possible, then refresh. I hope this is the case. I can wait until November to buy a new computer but no longer. And I'd much rather it be sooner with school coming.
Keeping my fingers crossed for a mini refresh in the next month/6 weeks!
I'm hoping it's a liquidation scheme. September isn't that far off, so I guess we'll see if the silent update comes.
For what it's worth, I hope we see the refresh.
It is a liquidation scheme for iPods. Not Macs.
Apple doesn't generally have inventory control problems.
http://daringfireball.net/linked/2012/06/01/apple-inventory
At least, no problems on products that are experiencing growth. The iPods are a different story since they are falling in share year-over-year.
Given the other rumors about Apple telling folks to pull Mac Pro and Mac mini out of the display tables to make room for tablet display space (i.e., f or the "iPad mini" ). It isn't very likely. More likely newer Mini after the initial 1-2 month frenzy over the iPad mini dies down and they can put Mini's back on display again.
What I'm surprised at is why there at least haven't been even any baseless Digitimes rumors. I would think they have something that leak out from somewhere, no?
If i were you i'd rather worry about the havoc those things wreak on your health...
The idea of the (currently) most valueable company on this planet - while already focusing on a very little number of products - would not be able to maintain a proper development of their still tiny portfolio without significant delays on a couple of their other product lines makes me shiver to the bone!
When the delays only affected the MacPro, people tried to argue it away with low sales numbers, missing hardware options and other crap.
When the delays reached the mini, people tried to argue it away with the low margins the mini would bring Apple (and similar stuff).
Now that the delays also affect their biggest selling (desktop) product - the iMac - to me it seems obvious that something is going severely wrong inside Apple!
Together with the news in the recent months about several high profile employees (who have a way better insight of the company than any of us on the outside) leaving Apple, i really wonder what is going on.
I'd like to believe that the market is indeed shifting towards mobile devices big time (as announced by SJ some time ago) and that desktops are a dying species, which is recognized by Apple but not by me (and quite some others) and which is the sole reason for Apple neglecting (bigger parts of) their portfolio, but somehow i have a hard time convincing myself...
If i were you i'd rather worry about the havoc those things wreak on your health...
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I just had some skin cancer removed. Most likely not the blimps fault but you never know.
I don't even think it will be a side note. Maybe just a website update kind of like the Mac Pro and Airport Express at WWDC 2012.
The stock price is immaterial to getting products out the door. To a large extent that is just monopoly money. Getting real products out the door with funny money doesn't really happen.
Pointing at the $100B stockpile would be slightly more material but misses the point of how they got to $100B in the first place.
Here's Tim Cook back before became CEO, nothing has really changed
"... The table each of you are sitting at today, you could probably put every product on it that Apple makes, yet Apple's revenue last year was $40 billion. ...... That's not just saying yes to the right products, it's saying no to many products that are good ideas, but just not nearly as good as the other ones. I think this is so ingrained in our company that this hubris.... I can tell you the management team at Apple would never let that happen. That's not what we're about. Small list of things to focus on. ... "
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/live...-goldman-tech-conference-2010-2#ixzz24ha892XQ
Neither the Mac Pro nor the mini are strategic to the Mac . Tactical submarket silos to fill yes. Strategic no. And yes that has to do with major lack of contribution to the core growth rate.
If overall Mac sales are up year-over-year for the next two quarter end reports there is really nothing wrong. You can flap your arms till the cows come home but if they Mac unit sales , revenues , and profits are up year-over-year their strategy doesn't really have many flaws in it.
The new laptops saved the quarter that ended in June. It may be a stretch but they may also pull off growth in the July-Sept quarter even if let the Mini and iMac slide to October. If they drop the new iMac in September it would go up y-o-y. Not sure the mini would be a push. If they wait till Oct for rMBP 13, mini, and/or iMac then the Oct-Dec quarter will get a larger bounce.
I wonder how long that will be true.
If they drop all but iMac I wonder if that would kill the goose.
I would hate to give up on Apple if the mini was dropped. I don't think it will, though I really like it. I feel like I'm just getting used to Mac OS X.
The premise here is flawed in that this would be a unilateral move. If the weaker models are retired as demand falls the goose is already gone versus dead. If they are cancelled but the overall Mac is still healthy that means that an even heavier percentage of Mac uses switched over to laptops.
If Mini and Mac Pro fall away the iMac could expand to fill part of those silos. A "pro" thicker model similar to the HP Z1 and a $899-999 price point iMac to fill part of the mini space.
However, it is far more likely that as the 'classic' personal computer market matures the pacing and freuquency of updates will slow down as the remaining number of major players continue to shrink. As long as Apple can increasingly find enough folks to buy into the value proposition that the Min and Mac Pro (and iMac ) offer they'll continue to sell them. But if their growth rate stablizes around 0.5-4% and the other Mac remain at 4-10% then they aren't strategic.
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Thats about it in a nutshell. Which is why I have been building pc's this year. Don't need the mobility.
Walls need painting!!!
Just finished reading everyones posts on all sorts of crazy stuff......
What I want to know is when the heck are we going to see the new Mini and what's it going to have in it?
I'm chewing the paint off the walls waiting.
Just finished reading everyones posts on all sorts of crazy stuff......
What I want to know is when the heck are we going to see the new Mini and what's it going to have in it?
I'm chewing the paint off the walls waiting.
To me a strategic value is not (solely) derived from growth rates or percentage of total turnover or EBIT. Actually the strategic value could even be disproportional to the latter mentioned numbers.
A sole focus on growth and other commercial KPI's for evaluation of strategic value is even more problematic, as it's hard to tell how those numbers would look if Apple did not neglect a big part of their product portfolio for quite some time now! Chicken-egg problem - better maintained products could easily show significantly better growth rates and margin contribution. And "by chance" the best maintained desktop product in Apple's lineup (well - until last year) at the same time also shows a better performance over the two stepchilds in that portfolio segment!
Of course one can intentionally take a business decision to push certain products and pull out resources on other products, but the above mentioned indicators are then only the result and not the root causes. And it gives me a feeling that Apple is either inconsequential in not officially streamlining their portfolio or incapable of doing one thing without stopping doing the other one (properly).
Neither prospect is appealing to me for a company such as Apple - we are not talking about Joe Doe's Backyard Handicraft Shop here...
The Z1 is quite expensive relative to its performance. A nice display is an expensive upgrade. A gpu that can match the cheaper/faster desktop variants is quite expensive. Specced with one of the higher end quad sandy bridge cpus and a Quadro 4000m, it comes out over $5k. The design is really nice, but I have to wonder who is spending that on a lighter duty single socket workstation. In terms of the imac, much of its leverage is price if you're looking at the crowd who would have purchased a single socket mac pro and thunderbolt display..
agreed. It depends on how Apple sees itself, a growth company or a mature business. The former comes with a better multiple (in terms of valuation), the latter lower multiple and requires certain disciplines such as sweating the assets, paying dividend and optimising margins. Arguably given Apple's valuation the market is telling you that it's the latter so perhaps that is one of the reasons why less attention is paid towards low growth and crowded markets. To me, that is a huge mistake because the iToys benefit from the halo effect of those same (mostly computer) businesses. But the Co is under pressure to price those slower categories competitively so there is a real paradox in place. It's an interesting cross roads. Which I think Apple is playing relatively well at present. Unless there is REAL improvement to components that will give real world improvement to its machines, changes are not made for the sake of making changes...
I am not very optimistic for a Mac mini update
I remember of a post on the front page finding new models for iMacs and MacPros
nothing about mac minis...
I am desperetally waiting for one and have postponed buying a computer from May waiting on a new mini release, but I do not see it happening
I remember of a post on the front page finding new models for iMacs and MacPros
nothing about mac minis...
I am desperetally waiting for one and have postponed buying a computer from May waiting on a new mini release, but I do not see it happening
I seem to recall Steve Jobs, in his biography, having described Tim Cook as an excellent businessman, but not-so-much of a "product man" as himself. If driving the share price up is all that interests Cook (and I appreciate that I have made a leap of reasoning, there...), the Mac probably doesn't concern him very much at all.
I could understand Cook neglecting the Mac line as a businessman - though, as a consumer who very much enjoys buying new Macs on a regular basis, I would be deeply disappointed if this were to happen.
I could understand Cook neglecting the Mac line as a businessman - though, as a consumer who very much enjoys buying new Macs on a regular basis, I would be deeply disappointed if this were to happen.
