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Is anyone here staying with Montery and not upgrading to Ventura
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This is a nice post, thank you!
I just realized that placing Mojave on my 2012 MacBook Pro made sense (instead of a silly project)
due to I need some 32bit apps and an older version of photoshop and Illustrator
for older art work that needs updating without losing any info in a new program like Affinity.
I guess what ever OS suits the user is the most important factor.
it runs much better, it better takes advantage of the hardware. Plus it has improved security.
iCloud Drive Sharing, iCloud Photo Sharing, improved encryption, etc. Just search for all the features online.
Now give me a good reason to stay behind and not to upgrade.
Keep in mind that Ventura is not a re-write of Monterey. It just builds on top of existing code. So basically, it's the same macOS, plus improvements and new features added.
I've had horrible sound bugs on Monterey so I upgraded to Ventura as soon as I could, and man the difference was night and day. The only upside to staying on Monterey is having the old System Preferences, but even then, everything else in Ventura is just better.
My MacBook Pro 14" came with Monterey, which runs smooth and solid.
From what I've seen of Ventura, I don't care for it, and I'm going to let it "pass by" and stick with Monterey for quite a while before moving up to "something newer".
What works for me... works.
(Still using Mojave on my 2018 Mini, and no plans to upgrade it further)
From what I've seen of Ventura, I don't care for it, and I'm going to let it "pass by" and stick with Monterey for quite a while before moving up to "something newer".
What works for me... works.
(Still using Mojave on my 2018 Mini, and no plans to upgrade it further)
Use the "View" menu after launching System Settings. It's actually better (IMO) than the old System Preferences. I learned that from @Realityck
Ventura is terrific! Much better than Monterey!
So says everyone - until about this time next year, when the next OS will be out and all those who got moist about Ventura will be distancing themselves from it and saying what a failed product it is. New product much better at all those things that nobody uses a computer for 98% of the time.
Twas always thus. Most especially with Apple products...
🙄
So says everyone - until about this time next year, when the next OS will be out and all those who got moist about Ventura will be distancing themselves from it and saying what a failed product it is. New product much better at all those things that nobody uses a computer for 98% of the time.
Twas always thus. Most especially with Apple products...
🙄
After Ventura my MacBook Pro (14-inch, 2021) M1 Max with 32gig of ram had issues waking from sleep, driving my external thunderbolt display, and random VM crashes under Parallels. Given that I use the VM for work I had no choice. Under Monterey the machine hardly ever has any issues. :-/
Monterey ALL the way, m1 iMac , M2 MBA, M1 MBA! Works fine! No need to fix something that aint broken!
Ditto though I hope to upgrade, well I hope for a bigger M-series iMac.I'm staying because my late 2015 iMac can't update,
I don't use iCloud in any form, so none of that matters. The minor improvements in Mail are fine, but the serious emailing is done with Thunderbird on the Linux box.
As for the other new features, none of them matter either. And contrary to other peoples comments I have had no trouble with Monterey at all. No sound problems, no crashes, etc.
Now Safari 16.1 did have an issue on the Mac Pro, but 16.0 worked fine, and so does 16.2. That one is a head scratcher.
If it isn't broke don't fix it, and in my use, Monterey is not broke. Neither is Linux Mint 20.3. I could update that machine to 21.something, but tax season approaches. No rocking of the boat is allowed.
Other than Stage Manager, which I have no interest in, Ventura has been solid.
Perfectly happy with Monterey. Have a good back up process and not overly concerned about recovering from a bad malware attack. So upgrading will be a function of software support.
APPLE WHY IS THIS NOT THE DEFAULT?! Seriously so many better options that Apple does not have as default it confuses me, like the additional folder details in Finder, or right click with mice.
macOS has the Path Bar and Status Bar off by default, which makes no damn sense. Finder becomes on par with File Explorer with these on.
Never use this on MacOS, on Windows I use it all the time because it's in a usable position and part of the general flow of the UI. Not an after thought.
macOS has the Path Bar and Status Bar off by default, which makes no damn sense. Finder becomes on par with File Explorer with these on.
It is if you're a poweruser, especially since I use software mods which requires a lot of copy and pasting into other folders.
The Mac Studio Ultra is my main work machine now and I waited until the apps I use were released with Ventura compatibility software updates. I do audio/video production and had to slog through the transition to M1 native far longer than Monterey to Ventura.
Most have been updated for Ventura but there are some that are STILL using Rosetta... I'm looking at you Altiverb.
Most have been updated for Ventura but there are some that are STILL using Rosetta... I'm looking at you Altiverb.
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I have a 2017 iMac that I need to fix the cracked display on over the Christmas holiday. I'll try updating that to Ventura once fixed and see if System Settings is still the steaming pile that's been reported elsewhere.
System Settings>System Preferences
Stage Manager>Spaces/Mission Control
That's been my experience on a 2021 16" MBP.
I still run Monterey on a late 2015 iMac and wish I could upgrade it to Ventura.
(No OCPL for the iMac as it's a production machine.)
YMMV.
Stage Manager>Spaces/Mission Control
That's been my experience on a 2021 16" MBP.
I still run Monterey on a late 2015 iMac and wish I could upgrade it to Ventura.
(No OCPL for the iMac as it's a production machine.)
YMMV.
IF that makes you believe you are a power user, go right ahead...
I agree that the path bar and the status bar are very useful features and should be on by default. They are hidden because some product people have this idea that all of the controls in an app should be hidden and only the content exposed. There is the related idea that presenting information to users will confuse them. It’s a weird, short-sighted fixation. We use those apps as tools to do things. Hiding the tools makes the app less useful.
macOS has the Path Bar and Status Bar off by default, which makes no damn sense. Finder becomes on par with File Explorer with these on.