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Is Catalina as bad as it looks on this board?
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You can install Catalina from the App Store but, at this point, I would wait till the real first update to kill some of the bugs.
I didn't call apple, I will wait for a while, I'm scared because I lived with the Mac Mail bug in Mojave until Apple patched it a month ago. Mojave flawless now. I just thought it was odd. Maybe servers busy, but not since first available on Oct.7. I guess there will always be some way to get it. You're right. I should wait for the bug kill. This frequent new OS is starting to be troublesome. When I got Mojave, I got the mail bug, but all the rest of Mojave was ok, except the dessert home screen. I had to fetch it manually after. That was odd too.
Thanks to all!
I'm staying with Mojave. Does anyone know how to remove the badge icon on system preferences?
Never understood why folks jump right away to the new, first version of a Mac OS, especially when there is really nothing earth shattering in it. Besides all the initial bugs, defects, etc., , which usually take 2 to 3 subsequent releases to fix/correct, there is also the significant issue of third party software compatibility. And especially when the current version of the Mac OS works flawlessly, as Mojave does.
Myself, I have installed Catalina on an external SSD (clean, fresh, "virgin" installation), along with transferring all my Apps, data, settings, etc. from a just completed SuperDuper! backup (of my Mojave-based system). In my limited testing, I am actually not having any issues at all, and a number of apps I tested work fine. But because 3 of my critical apps need Catalina compatibility, I have stopped using it (actually down to 2 apps, as Titanium software earlier today released a Catalina version of Onyx).
Myself, I have installed Catalina on an external SSD (clean, fresh, "virgin" installation), along with transferring all my Apps, data, settings, etc. from a just completed SuperDuper! backup (of my Mojave-based system). In my limited testing, I am actually not having any issues at all, and a number of apps I tested work fine. But because 3 of my critical apps need Catalina compatibility, I have stopped using it (actually down to 2 apps, as Titanium software earlier today released a Catalina version of Onyx).
Bad news, or good depending. I put my Dell P2715Q on the iMac as a second monitor, mirrored them so that the video card had to do double duty and then let the screen saver kick in AND let the computer monitor put the monitors to sleep.
NO kernel panic. Sorry!
I have yet to find anything I need or want to do on my 27" iMac that Mojave won't do.
I have yet to see anything Catalina does that will help me to do any of the above.
It won't fix buggy Office 2016 either.
Everything else, including the 32 bit stuff I use works just fine.
So far, the only thing previous upgrades have done for me is disappear lots of my iPhoto images.
Why ask for a headache. Enjoy Catalina you-all.
I have yet to see anything Catalina does that will help me to do any of the above.
It won't fix buggy Office 2016 either.
Everything else, including the 32 bit stuff I use works just fine.
So far, the only thing previous upgrades have done for me is disappear lots of my iPhoto images.
Why ask for a headache. Enjoy Catalina you-all.
Bash:
# Hide the System Settings badge
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences AttentionPrefBundleIDs 0; killall Dock
# revert the action
defaults write com.apple.systempreferences AttentionPrefBundleIDs 1; killall Dock
# If you want to hide the Catalina upgrade banner in Software Update
sudo softwareupdate --ignore "macOS Catalina"
# revert the action above
sudo softwareupdate --reset-ignoredSeems like the notification badge is hidden until you open up the Settings again; Others suggested to actually replace the actual icon of Settings with Alias - that way would the badge be hidden permanently.
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There is no way you lost your iTunes purchased, because those are linked to your iTunes account and can be redownloaded if you want to.
@cmleblanc it may be that you don't see the purchases, but in no way you could loose them for good. Purchases are tied to the Apple ID and in no way can become "lost" unless one asks for refund - thus license is removed and the purchase is "reverted".
Most people's primary use case for a computer isn't investing in the future, it's getting work done right now. The computer needs to be reliable. Waiting patiently for a few months and protecting the integrity of your workflow is a much smarter way to invest your time. For many of us, Catalina was extremely disruptive and it would be foolish to stick with it just out of kindness to a corporation.
It's not a matter of kindness to a corporation. I was referring to staying on an OS release longer term. The longer that lasts, the more risk that introduces as well.
You do realize that businesses do this all the time right? I know one business as I used to work for them and they still have a Windows 2000 computer to operate a $500,000 photo printer.
Yes, true in many cases. I worked for a large organization in IT where falling behind was considered a risk to the business. It was a matter of reporting new issues, with software vendors then asking if the software was current. Often, the latest updates resolved them. But it is a balance sometimes in not too soon, but don't hold off too long.
LOL Why should we have to download all our purchases AGAIN. Check the top level Music thread. Major problems with Music AND iTunes. Catalina not ready for release. DANGER DANGER if you have 15K+ iTunes tracks as I have. Don't do it yet!
There is no harm staying on an old operating system. Take proper security measures (isolated the system from the network). Why upgrade when you need to buy a new $500,000 printer when the old one works fine?
I will agree with you if every computer in the company was still on Windows 2000. But every other computer was on either 7 or 10.
I more agree than disagree with you of course. But in this case we're not necessarily talking about longer term. I think the benefits of waiting 3-4 months massively outweigh the negatives with an OS, unless there's an absolutely killer new feature (there are none on Catalina), you're really not that dependent on the machine, or you develop for the platform and your skillset requires diving in at the deep end. I know this is what developer and public beta is supposed to avoid, but that really didn't work this time.
I agree that small companies and businesses can stay on OS versions, often for years. But large organizations and corporations usually can't afford to do that, espacilly as software needs to be kept up-to-date for security issues and customer service improvements. So I don't disagree with you as it depends on the criticality of the environmental and tolerance of risk to stay behind.