I have, probably, a similar iMac and notice no issues with the Vega. What am I missing?
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Is Catalina as bad as it looks on this board?
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Do you have multiple monitors? It is a very common issue with Vega GPU and multiple monitors.
I have pretty basic needs for my MBP these days. Still a bit nervous to take the plunge, because it’s my only computer for work and I’d be screwed if something went wrong. I’ll likely wait for the next update, and then try it then...
No multiple monitors, don't have the need.
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If you need it for work, I’d wait. When you do upgrade, keep a backup so you can more easily revert to Mojave if necessary.
Catalina 10.15 is running great on my 2012 Mac Mini despite the naysayers and doubters. I only dislike the frequent prompts in pushing to try Arcade. Not a gamer at all, and not in the least bit interested.
tried the OS on high spec latest MBP through external drive.
Mainly noticed massive memory usage with nothing working but mainly safari consuming 5GB of memory for three tabs! what the heck!?
Noticed machine running hotter than Mojave too and random freezes with kernel panics.
Mainly noticed massive memory usage with nothing working but mainly safari consuming 5GB of memory for three tabs! what the heck!?
Noticed machine running hotter than Mojave too and random freezes with kernel panics.
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That no 32 bit is a deal breaker for me. Plus most of my Macs can't run it so only one system could be upgraded anyway.
I have 2x 2011 laptops maxed at High Sierra and the 2015 iMac sitting on Mojave.
I think this is it for me until I can afford to get upgrades on my adobe apps
Have a look at what Catalina offers over Mojave. it's really not that much. And I don't think Mojave had a huge amount of new stuff over High Sierra.
Sure, you're not having fun playing with the latest and greatest, but if there's nothing that you really need/want from Catalina, then be happy as you are. They look and run pretty much the same.
Sure, you're not having fun playing with the latest and greatest, but if there's nothing that you really need/want from Catalina, then be happy as you are. They look and run pretty much the same.
I downgraded back to Mojave, but not because of performance issues. I understand that new releases have bugs, but Catalina is more than that, it simply breaks too many useful apps/extensions, and removes too many features. I don't have a problem with old apps being replaced with new ones, but every time Apple does this they remove too many useful features. I don't see a compelling reason to upgrade when several of the apps I use weekly will no longer work with no viable replacement on the horizon, and nothing that new/compelling in Catalina.
I don't think average users will have a problem with Catalina, but Apple seems to care less and less having a flourishing app ecosystem on the Mac, which is really frustrating. Would it really be that hard to allow 32-bit apps to keep running, allow Safari extensions, add batch metadata editing to Photos, or referenced library audiobook support to Books. Maybe by the time the Mojave security updates stop I will be able to upgrade and not need Parallels.
I don't think average users will have a problem with Catalina, but Apple seems to care less and less having a flourishing app ecosystem on the Mac, which is really frustrating. Would it really be that hard to allow 32-bit apps to keep running, allow Safari extensions, add batch metadata editing to Photos, or referenced library audiobook support to Books. Maybe by the time the Mojave security updates stop I will be able to upgrade and not need Parallels.
you're missing an important point; each new OS brings under-the-hood improvements & enhancements... and that's what i care about most; not 'new stuff', but a better user experience, better architecture. catalina, like every mac os before it, will get better with each .1 update, but it's working really well here right now.
I'd like to add to those folks downgrading or refusing to move from Mojave, that future OS updates and versions will be more and more risky and problematic. It makes no sense to stay stuck on a release because it's comfortable and everything works. That may be fine for now, but a bad investment for the future.
The issue appears when the screen saver kicks in or when the computer puts the monitor to sleep. A few minutes later, kernel panic happens.
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How does this make sense? Why upgrade if I cannot do my work without kernel panics?
if those new under the hood new enhancements resulted a stable OS, then sure. They have not.
I feel Catalina the pros and cons of it has opened a very raw wound in the Mac community, that has been growing and festering. Does apple care about the Mac?
I've wondered for some time about if Mac and OSX/Mac OS should be span out into its own company.
Either way the beauty of linux and unix was it was stable, reliable and upgrades didn't break stuff *generally* yet it appears apple has not been investing the time in QC'ing its releases.
I really think they need to stop the yearly OS upgrades. Back to 2 or three year upgrades.
For all the hate of Microsoft, I think they are onto something with how they vision upgrades to windows in the future. Do we really need a new Mac OS every year?
catalina is working well for many people, and not well for some... just as it's been with other versions of the OS; moreso now, logically, with the move to a fully-64bit OS. and, while you're certainly entitled to your opinions, they're just that: opinions.
statements like this have no bearing in reality:
"I feel Catalina the pros and cons of it has opened a very raw wound in the Mac community, that has been growing and festering"
where did you get this info? who is the mac community; the people who live on this forum? or would that be the infinitely-larger user base that just use their macs, and don't spend time online whining & arguing (and so on)?
Yes, I get that but I was replying to someone who has two 8 year old laptops. High Sierra is fine.
Luckily, my 6 year old one runs 10.15.1 pretty well.
My System Preferences says "1 update", Catalina was available 2 weeks ago, I waited, now update says my Mojave 10.14.6 is up to date, no Catalina anywhere. Is the roll out suspended?
The OS space has become highly competitive. That's because essentially MacOS, Linux and Windows are now free. I am OS agnostic but Windows has now chosen their upgrade path to mirror Linux releases i.e. every 6 months. And Microsoft has also been breaking stuff like Apple with MacOS, so much so that Windows 10 Build 1910 doesn't really add anything. It just fixes stuff like previous Windows Service Packs or if you come from the Mac world "Snow Windows 10".