Is Catalina as bad as it looks on this board?

[zakarhino]

If you use your computer for any kind of serious work (like most people do), don't install. I'm going to wait for this update to mature for a good 4-6 months before installing. Not gonna risk an unstable OS. It's times like this where I seriously consider going full Arch for everyday work and keeping macOS on a seperate partition for when I need to use mac specific software.

 

[Apple_Robert]

Outside of having to repair my iTunes library, I haven’t had any real problems with Catalina.

 

[DirtFarmer#1]

If you were to guess, how many people are NOT posting here since Catalina seems fine, vs. the people who are posting here with problems?

I'd bet a few million (or more) to one.

 

[fatalogic]

I would say it’s not one of their cleanest upgrades. My MacBook Pro bricked after upgrading and using migration assistant to get my settings from my old MBP. After using internet recovery, reinstalling Capitan and doing a clean install to Catalina it had been fine.

 

[Martyimac]

Safari is snappier.

 

[freakomac]

2012 RMBP 13" here.
Whenever I open a new Safari window it opens all the tabs from my favorites!!! Sooo irritating as I have like 25 websites in favorites. I have no idea when if this was reported or will ever be fixed.

 

[Ritsuka]

Check what's your setting in Safari general preferences.

 

[benshive]

2012 RMBP 13" here.
Whenever I open a new Safari window it opens all the tabs from my favorites!!! Sooo irritating as I have like 25 websites in favorites. I have no idea when if this was reported or will ever be fixed.

Check what you have these set to in Safari's preferences.

 

[The Mercurian]

So if you use Stan software... don't touch Catalina yet - just look at the problems its causing: https://discourse.mc-stan.org/t/dealing-with-catalina/11285

 

[joelovesapple]

I am now being nagged to upgrade. No thanks Apple!

 

[soperrepos]

I upgraded my elderly parent’s Mini and Catalina broke the Logitech M510 mouse connection. Weirdly the Logitech keyboard sharing the same usb receiver still works. Even weirder the mouse works at the login screen, but ceases working once logged in. Troubleshot for an hour+ doing all the things Logitech’s support notice said to with no luck, so I ordered them a Macally wired mouse lol. I got them a Mac and Logitech hardware to avoid this kinda crap

 

[Martyimac]

I upgraded my elderly parent’s Mini and Catalina broke the Logitech M510 mouse connection. Weirdly the Logitech keyboard sharing the same usb receiver still works. Even weirder the mouse works at the login screen, but ceases working once logged in. Troubleshot for an hour+ doing all the things Logitech’s support notice said to with no luck, so I ordered them a Macally wired mouse lol. I got them a Mac and Logitech hardware to avoid this kinda crap

I have M510 mice on two different Macs using their Unifying USB receivers. No problems. Even though I didn't need to do this, there is Updated unifying drivers here, https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025297913

 

[soperrepos]

I have M510 mice on two different Macs using their Unifying USB receivers. No problems. Even though I didn't need to do this, there is Updated unifying drivers here, https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025297913

Thanks, but I already installed that and double checked via terminal. I’m going to dig up another receiver and try it again from scratch.

 

[Martyimac]

Thanks, but I already installed that and double checked via terminal. I’m going to dig up another receiver and try it again from scratch.

I am assuming you turned the mouse off, waited a few then turned it back on? And maybe new batteries?
Edit: one other thing, did you shutdown their computer and restart it AFTER the installer was done?

 

[kronos2611]

As others have already said - if you use your Mac for work then avoid Catalina for now at all costs. I only use it for Citrix for work and spent a good 30 minutes trying to connect to my corp network. Outside of that gaming is a disaster and in general this is probably the worst release of MacOS in years.

 

[soperrepos]

I am assuming you turned the mouse off, waited a few then turned it back on? And maybe new batteries?
Edit: one other thing, did you shutdown their computer and restart it AFTER the installer was done?

All of the above. Plus installed a Catalina update, added Logitech options app - that recognized the mouse, checked all Logitech items under the privacy settings... the receiver sees the mouse. It just doesn’t work

 

[fisherking]

As others have already said - if you use your Mac for work then avoid Catalina for now at all costs. I only use it for Citrix for work and spent a good 30 minutes trying to connect to my corp network. Outside of that gaming is a disaster and in general this is probably the worst release of MacOS in years.

not here, where it's (mostly) fine (on both my macs). certainly not perfect (what mac OS ever is this early?). but not a disaster for everyone, and... sorry you're having issues.

 

[sjinsjca]

No problems here (late 2018 MacBook Pro, 32GB/1TB SSD, 6 core i9).

Based on all the hysteria around here, I held off until today, 18 October, to do the update. Maybe I'm tempting fate by saying so, but: it went completely smoothly. Massive download, 8GB. No issues perceived yet. Rev is reported as 10.15 (19A602). I'm a little surprised at that, as I expected 10.15.0.2, but maybe the factional-dot revision isn't displayed.

 

[Martyimac]

All of the above. Plus installed a Catalina update, added Logitech options app - that recognized the mouse, checked all Logitech items under the privacy settings... the receiver sees the mouse. It just doesn’t work

Weird.

 

[MacUser2525]

• Update 1: When I connect my USB key to the Mac, a process named "mds_stores" keeps my cpu busy at 20% even in idle, and this makes the cpu temperature rise at 90°C. That process triggers any time I connect the USB key to my Mac, and I have to force close it after I disconnect it otherwise it will remain there causing performance issues.

That would be spotlight indexing your drive, it will continue to happen until you let it finish or use the solution in the link..

macOS: Stop Spotlight Indexing Certain Folders or Drives

Spotlight is a tool that lets you search through your Mac for files, folders, and other information. Spotlight indexes your system in order to figure out where everything is. But you can stop Spotlight indexing if you don't want it to ignore certain folders.

www.macobserver.com

 

[freakomac]

Check what you have these set to in Safari's preferences.
View attachment 870634

Thanks it worked!
I never touched these settings wonder how it changed.

 

[unfunfionn]

I reinstalled Mojave yesterday. In 8 years, it's the first time I've ever downgraded an Apple OS. Yet this feels like a major upgrade after a very frustrating week of issues and absolutely hopeless Apple Support as always. I just wish I could downgrade tvOS next... At least I feel like I have a MacBook Pro I can trust again.

 

[jgbr]

It makes me believe that Mojave will end up alittle like snow leopard was as it will be the last to support 32bit, nvidida driver compat and a pile of other techs that have chucked out with Catalina. Makes you wonder if a fresh install of mojave would be better and skip anything newer for now. Thoughts?

 

[fisherking]

It makes me believe that Mojave will end up alittle like snow leopard was as it will be the last to support 32bit, nvidida driver compat and a pile of other techs that have chucked out with Catalina. Makes you wonder if a fresh install of mojave would be better and skip anything newer for now. Thoughts?

have you seeen jgbr's post on the thread about catalina security? i think you guys would get along well... ?

 

[AjTee]

Stable version works for me with no issues so far.