I have the same issue. But I just click a second time on the Mail icon and then the window opens. There is a whole thread about this on the Apple discussion forums:
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I have the same issue. But I just click a second time on the Mail icon and then the window opens. There is a whole thread about this on the Apple discussion forums:
Yep, Catalina is BAD BAD BAD !!! Can't say the same for Catalina Island.. nice there.
For me was Catalina without major issues. I would say good os.
Sometimes it's good and sometimes it's just bad. The computer can heat up quickly when I am browsing with Firefox and Safari simultaneously and have too many tabs open, or when I am connected to ac. Sometimes it functions beautifully and it just works. I have also has a few crashes, thank God not too many. So this is not the best OS I have used, even Sierra works better for me, and Snow Leopard was the best. Apple seems to have lost its way recently with too many distractions and products, and I hope the next iteration Big Sur will rectify some of these issues.
Nope, just ask Natalie Wood, Stay away from Catalina Island.
Sadly, it's all been downhill since Snow Leopard imho. It just worked, and everything was easy to do.
High Sierra is so SLOW on non-SSD macs. (Did they do this on purpose?). Mojave... ok except for the beta APFS filesystem. And Catalina - what a train wreck.
Who knows, maybe Big Sur will actually work, cough. Apple are just in over their head, and can't force people onto new hardware fast enough. This might be acceptable behaviour for 'disposable' items like phones, but is totally reprehensible on capable home computers like the Core i5 2011/12, and even the Core2Duo 2010 Unibody. It was such a great budget Macbook they had to discontinue it, as it was eating the Pros profits.
I use El Capitan on my personal Macs (an 2013 Air, and a 2012 Pro) and also the 2010 unibodys i sell.
It's supremely frustrating that they cut Big Sur off the 2012 Macs which are perfectly capable of running it. At least intel Macs had the backup of running the latest version of Windows once Apple dumps them. Apple silicon Macs won't have the same luxury.
I was just wondering when Apple decides to ”create” a new OSX do they take an old system and break it down and reconstruct it as a “new” system? For some reason, I think that Catalina is Mavericks just reinvented.
If Apple follows tradition versioning methodology Big Sur is going to be a Major release, v11.x.x.
Prior OS versions have been 10.x.x. For instance;
From Wikipedia - the macOS was previously known as Mac OS X and later OS X and 10.0 "Kodiak" was released in 9/2000.
Now after 20 years of updates:
All that being said, in theory Big Sur v11. will be remaking the OS much deeper in its core than previously. This change is good and bad. The good is Apple may need to go deeper into the core to address issues that have crept into v10. The bad is what are going to be the "unintended consequences" of opening that box.
Because Big Sur will be a major release, the beta testing will be critical. Early adopters beware.
For now, Catalina will most likely retain many of the issues mentioned in this "short" thread. For some, there is the option to downshift to Mojave or High Sierra, but only if Catalina is intolerable. I've decided to remain on High Sierra for my 2017 iMac, it just works fine for now.
Prior OS versions have been 10.x.x. For instance;
From Wikipedia - the macOS was previously known as Mac OS X and later OS X and 10.0 "Kodiak" was released in 9/2000.
Now after 20 years of updates:
- Mac OS X Public Beta – code name Kodiak
- Mac OS X 10.0 – code name Cheetah
- Mac OS X 10.1 – code name Puma
- Mac OS X 10.2 – also marketed as Jaguar
- Mac OS X Panther – 10.3
- Mac OS X Tiger – 10.4
- Mac OS X Leopard – 10.5
- Mac OS X Snow Leopard – 10.6 (requires purchase)
- Mac OS X Lion – 10.7 – also marketed as OS X Lion (requires purchase)
- OS X Mountain Lion – 10.8 (requires purchase)
- OS X Mavericks – 10.9 (free)
- OS X Yosemite – 10.10 (free)
- OS X El Capitan – 10.11 (free)
- macOS Sierra – 10.12 (free)
- macOS High Sierra – 10.13 (free)
- macOS Mojave – 10.14 (free)
- macOS Catalina – 10.15 (free)
- macOS Big Sur – 11.0 (free)
All that being said, in theory Big Sur v11. will be remaking the OS much deeper in its core than previously. This change is good and bad. The good is Apple may need to go deeper into the core to address issues that have crept into v10. The bad is what are going to be the "unintended consequences" of opening that box.
Because Big Sur will be a major release, the beta testing will be critical. Early adopters beware.
For now, Catalina will most likely retain many of the issues mentioned in this "short" thread. For some, there is the option to downshift to Mojave or High Sierra, but only if Catalina is intolerable. I've decided to remain on High Sierra for my 2017 iMac, it just works fine for now.
This is bad and that is why OS X has lost favor with me. Big Sur is no different, just has more code on top of the spaghetti plus the sauce
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I would only go there to kayak and or swim.
And good scuba diving.This is bad and that is why OS X has lost favor with me. Big Sur is no different, just has more code on top of the spaghetti plus the sauce
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I would only go there to kayak and or swim.
Yes, that too.
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And if I had the money, I'd probably live there
Was something wrong with Mavericks? It worked beautifully for me. Ne’er an issue. I actually kept my 2012 rMBP on Mavericks until just a few months ago. I had to update to El Capitan to use a certain program I need, but then it made another program I need very buggy. I really miss Mavericks.
Mavericks bricked my early 2008 MBPro.
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Thank you for the Apple history and insight. I am staying on Mojave for my MBA Early 2015. I will stay probably until I need to buy a new laptop.
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Wow sorry to hear that. From what I’ve seen people have had a great experience with Mavericks. So it was bricked as in it wouldn’t even boot up anymore after you updated?
I am using Catalina 10.15.6 on an unsupported Mac Pro 5,1. It has been working solidly. I use my computers for work all day long.
Big Sur through Beta 3 has also been solid for a beta. Since I have not patched it, Watch Unlock does not work, not a huge loss for me.
Big Sur through Beta 3 has also been solid for a beta. Since I have not patched it, Watch Unlock does not work, not a huge loss for me.
I'm one of those people who can't run VMs for any significant amount of time anymore because after about 24-48 hours, 10.15.6 completely pukes with VMware, VirtualBox and maybe Parallels.
Reinstalled the OS from scratch, ran the hardware test twice, tested the RAM using memtest86, replaced my buggy router which I thought might be causing the NIC to crash, reset my Keychain which the various daemons kept asking to log back into... all for nothing (well, the new router is great so there's one good thing).
This on top of the documented Bluetooth interference issues my 2020 Mini has on its USB-A ports. Un-freaking-believable. Oh and I thought my cheap SATA dock gave me a kernel panic a couple months ago but it may have been the problem with 10.15.4.
Never had an OS give me so many weird headaches before. I wish I could go back to Mojave.
Reinstalled the OS from scratch, ran the hardware test twice, tested the RAM using memtest86, replaced my buggy router which I thought might be causing the NIC to crash, reset my Keychain which the various daemons kept asking to log back into... all for nothing (well, the new router is great so there's one good thing).
This on top of the documented Bluetooth interference issues my 2020 Mini has on its USB-A ports. Un-freaking-believable. Oh and I thought my cheap SATA dock gave me a kernel panic a couple months ago but it may have been the problem with 10.15.4.
Never had an OS give me so many weird headaches before. I wish I could go back to Mojave.
I am having the exact same issues as you are. Crashes, NIC crashes, daemons asking me to log back into everything. All that stuff. I'm so frustrated by this operating system.
I have had thoughts of updating to Mojave from High Sierra. If I do I'm unlikely to go further. I'm undecided right now.
Hello The Hammer,
If macOS High Sierra is working well with your computer, it's OK to stay on that OS for awhile. Currently, I have macOS Mojave running on my 2013 Mac Pro. In my experience, it's been a rock-solid OS on my machine and I don't intend to upgrade the OS in the foreseeable future.
As for macOS Catalina, that's a different story. I have macOS Catalina on two of my other experimental, non-critical computers. While everything works "OK", there are Bluetooth problems and general "instability".
Regarding macOS Big Sur, it will be a long while before I start experimenting with that!
richmlow
If macOS High Sierra is working well with your computer, it's OK to stay on that OS for awhile. Currently, I have macOS Mojave running on my 2013 Mac Pro. In my experience, it's been a rock-solid OS on my machine and I don't intend to upgrade the OS in the foreseeable future.
As for macOS Catalina, that's a different story. I have macOS Catalina on two of my other experimental, non-critical computers. While everything works "OK", there are Bluetooth problems and general "instability".
Regarding macOS Big Sur, it will be a long while before I start experimenting with that!
richmlow
Good old Mojave 10.14.6.
I've definitely concluded, reading this and many other threads on updates that "if it ain't bust, don't fix it".
I'll stay with Mojave certainly for the foreseeable future anyway ???
I've definitely concluded, reading this and many other threads on updates that "if it ain't bust, don't fix it".
I'll stay with Mojave certainly for the foreseeable future anyway ???
