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Is Catalina as bad as it looks on this board?
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I had SL installed on my late, early 2008 MBPro and it was working perfectly for a long time. I upgraded to Mavericks and it began shutting down, having constant beach balls, and kernel panic attacks. I took it to an Apple genius who did a clean install of Mavericks and it still was bombing. The genius then did some tests and determined that I needed a new logic motherboard. It was shipped out for replacement and I requested that they reinstall Snow Leopard; instead of Mavericks. It worked fine thereafter. I much later upgraded to El Capitan and that worked great too. Subsequently I replaced my MBPro with an early 2015 MBAir with El Capitan on it. I kept it with El Capitan until I finally upgraded to Mojave, and here I will stay until I need another new laptop.
Am now writing something I've not written before...
10.15.6 seems to have fixed the annoying "intermittent blank external monitor when waking from sleep" problem. Haven't noticed this since updating to 10.15.6.
If it's true, then credit given where it's due.
10.15.6 seems to have fixed the annoying "intermittent blank external monitor when waking from sleep" problem. Haven't noticed this since updating to 10.15.6.
If it's true, then credit given where it's due.
I upgraded to 10.15. Two of my essential apps didn’t work, so I had the MacExperience guys roll it back to 10.14. The apps have been upgraded to 10.15. I was going to do the upgrade today, but after reading all the problems with 10.15 I’m staying with 10.14. I’ve never had an issue with it. Rock solid.
This is also going to make me think twice about upgrading to OS 11
This is also going to make me think twice about upgrading to OS 11
I miss the Finder from Leopard; at least in that version the sidebar icon were in colour which meant I didn't have eye strain trying to decipher them.
Catalina lately has been okay for me. Whenever my machine gets warm, I look for rogue apps to close from Force Quit, usually those apps which I have exited but are still appearing as being in use (Cultprit include Numbers and and Pages). That usually resolves the problem. So I have been quite happy with Catalina lately.
Just went from 10.14.5 to 10.14.6 to 10.15.6 over a week.
10.14.5 = amazing, and I intentionally stayed here for nearly a year.
10.14.6 = unusable. (2018 mac mini + RX 570 eGPU = panic/crash on sleep). Glad I mostly skipped this one.
10.15.6 = Pretty good, almost bug free. The only bug I've found is that disabling power nap doesn't work. It keeps randomly waking up at night causing every LED equipped peripheral (eGPU, mouse, USB hub) to light up waking -me- up unless I do nightly shutdowns.
10.14.5 = amazing, and I intentionally stayed here for nearly a year.
10.14.6 = unusable. (2018 mac mini + RX 570 eGPU = panic/crash on sleep). Glad I mostly skipped this one.
10.15.6 = Pretty good, almost bug free. The only bug I've found is that disabling power nap doesn't work. It keeps randomly waking up at night causing every LED equipped peripheral (eGPU, mouse, USB hub) to light up waking -me- up unless I do nightly shutdowns.
I am one 10.14.6 and really have no issues,keep getting the notification to update to Catalina but reading the issues. May just hang tight for now!
Also on V10.16.7 on both of my Macs, and no issues. In fact, very stable.
Oh really? Can you provide specific details about such bugs? I am having none at all.
I installed Catalina on the day it was released to the public, now I've moved on to Big Sur, and during all this time, i.e. during its entire prescribed lifetime, I haven't seen a single bug. That's not fair. I feel left out. 😢
I have no doubt that some configurations, and possibly combinations of third-party software, may, under certain specific circumstances, trigger some unexpected behaviour. But to call it 'full of bugs' because of that is exaggerated to say the least.
I hated Windows 10 and thought it was a buggy piece of crap, until I discovered that all my problems were caused by a Lenovo driver. I bet it's the same with Catalina - and any other operating system for that matter.
I have no doubt that some configurations, and possibly combinations of third-party software, may, under certain specific circumstances, trigger some unexpected behaviour. But to call it 'full of bugs' because of that is exaggerated to say the least.
I hated Windows 10 and thought it was a buggy piece of crap, until I discovered that all my problems were caused by a Lenovo driver. I bet it's the same with Catalina - and any other operating system for that matter.
Catalina is doing allright for me too. Except for working with SMB shares: this has improved, but there are still some issues (which I never had with MacOS/OSX releases before).
After holding tight with Mojave over the past year because of all the bad press Catalina received, I finally took the plunge over the weekend and did a clean install. I've seen absolutely no bugs or issues. Yeah, iTunes is gone, but getting used to the new Apple music app. The only 32 bit app I had to replace was for our Harmony remotes, and was able to find the 64 bit replacement. My late 2013 15" MBP is running like it always has, so all good here.
They only made a 64-bit version of their old, crappy software for the non-hub remotes.
Smart move with a clean installation. I always do that in moving from one Mac OS to the next. Will do the same with Big Sur, but it will be a couple of months, most likely. Depends on when Tech Tool Pro is compatible with Big Sur. Meanwhile, can use stable Catalina until then.
Well at least it seems that Catalina is better than Big Sur at the present. I'd rather have a secure laptop than one that has created explicit holes that can now be used by hackers. Wardles presentation gaining access to a Mac through the holes Apples opened up for them bypassing firewalls and VPNs and having direct access to your laptop, coupled with the bricking of devices, the censoring of feedback on the Apple Community has definitely made me think that the next release is worse than the current.
For the millionth time, it is best to wait until a couple of releases of Big Sur arrive, before making the move. Usually after the .2 "major" release, most of the initial (and persistent) bugs are gone.
Besides, there is also the issue of third party software compatibility, if you use any (I use all such software).
Yes I did say "at present". The future may change of course but looking back on the timeout thread and the associated 100k threads in community forum, the apple response that it will be 12 months to change the oscp behaviour, I'd say that the prospect of looking towards using Macos 11 is probably looking like a year away. Obviously Apple stating 12 months to fix it means its still going to be there in 12 months. So, simply wait another year because Apple needs beta testers that don;t mind trying to resolve their hardware to/and software integration issues.
I have been vocal about my distaste for Catalina from the beginning.
But now on 10.15.7 (i think right?) things have really smoothed out. I'm not really having any issues on my 16" related to Catalina, anymore. It feels very solid and I even think they have sorted out some of the running hot issues with the 16" that I was having at first. I think Catalina has matured. I'm going to stick with the most recent version available of Catalina probably until whatever comes after Big Sur is released. Everything is working great.
But now on 10.15.7 (i think right?) things have really smoothed out. I'm not really having any issues on my 16" related to Catalina, anymore. It feels very solid and I even think they have sorted out some of the running hot issues with the 16" that I was having at first. I think Catalina has matured. I'm going to stick with the most recent version available of Catalina probably until whatever comes after Big Sur is released. Everything is working great.
It's important to remember that Big Sur was just released (beyond the beta releases), and for every new version of a Mac OS, it is always the case that the first few releases have bugs/issues. That's one reason why it's better to wait until at least the .2 major release comes out. By that time, most of those bugs/issues are resolved.
So, at this point, it's really not fair to compare the initial release of Big Sur with the most recent release of Catalina. But it is wise to remain with Catalina until Big Sur improves.
So, at this point, it's really not fair to compare the initial release of Big Sur with the most recent release of Catalina. But it is wise to remain with Catalina until Big Sur improves.
Never had any problem at all with Catalina, really like it, very fast and does everything i want it to.
If you download Big Sur, then you will really appreciate how good Catalina is.
Big Sur is an embarrassment.
If you download Big Sur, then you will really appreciate how good Catalina is.
Big Sur is an embarrassment.