Is "Raise to Wake" 6S Exclusive?

[KeanosMagicHat]

Not sure why that feature is even a big deal. If TouchID is truly an issue, just hit the power button to wake the screen.

Raise To Wake had been introduced so owners can see the new multi panel notifications without pressing Home and therefore possibly unlocking the phone.

I think it'd be useful and if Apple have blocked it on the iPhone 6, there is no customer beneficial reason to do so.

Hopefully they'll make it available and avoid such corporate dickishness . . .

 

[dauthiatull]

The M7 is a dedicated processor with one task—to collect and process sensor data. Having an always on co-processor that consumes a tiny amount of power is a trend in mobile (the Moto X does this with other tasks too). It’s better to put the big chip (A7) in deep sleep and keep the little one going.

from

http://stevecheney.com/on-the-apple-m7-motion-processor/

 

[Yummy_Brains]

Can someone please explain the security aspects of raise to wake function because what i'm not getting is the feature is demo'd as doing a number of straight into apps features including for instance allowing the user to not only peek immediately at a message right on the lock screen but then reply to it. The only way I can understand there's any security is the 3D touch feature on the iPhone 6s/ 6s Plus models recognises the user's finger or thumb print otherwise anyone can pick up someone else's iPhone and plough right through their messages?!?!

You can't go through previous messages, it's just that you can keep the quick reply window open so if they're responding straight away you can type back. Instead of the quick reply window closing and the new notification coming in. Just takes a few swipes and taps out of the way

 

[Carmenia83]

Not sure why that feature is even a big deal. If TouchID is truly an issue, just hit the power button to wake the screen.

This feature will be a big deal when there is no physical home button this fall. The home button will just be for TouchID and returning to home from within apps. Raise to wake will show notifications on the lock screen, 3D Touch swiping already brings up the app switcher, "Hey Siri" already activates Siri. No need for a clickable button anymore. Also the reason that older devices with a Home button don't need it.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/02/04/apple-invention-hints-at-force-sensitive-touch-id-button

 

[Black Magic]

This feature will be a big deal when there is no physical home button this fall. The home button will just be for TouchID and returning to home from within apps. Raise to wake will show notifications on the lock screen, 3D Touch swiping already brings up the app switcher, "Hey Siri" already activates Siri. No need for a clickable button anymore. Also the reason that older devices with a Home button don't need it.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/02/04/apple-invention-hints-at-force-sensitive-touch-id-button

I mentioned power button in the first post. I'd be shocked if the power button goes away.

 

[Crzyrio]

I mentioned power button in the first post. I'd be shocked if the power button goes away.

They will truly be no need for a power button in the future except to hard restart phone if its frozen.
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This feature should must be use Gyro, Accelerometer and Barometer.

And here is the compatible list.
iPhone 6S - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6S Plus - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6 - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone 6 Plus - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer, Barometer --PASSED
iPhone SE - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED
iPhone 5S - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED
iPhone 5 - 3-Axis gyro, Accelerometer --FAILED

Apple should must be add this iPhone 6 or later. There is a hardware inside for it. And it helps to Apple reduce Sleep/Wake button and Home button/Touch-id service costs.

Edit:
I watched this video.

0:47 - 0:52

Looks like there is no need barometer for it. And all m7 and m8 models can handle this feature. So its a developer beta1. Must be added in later beta's. I think Apple working on it background for getting all models. Maybe Apple added this feature 6S only for demo. Its a simple and great software innovation. And ofcourse its a Win-Win. Apple wins: Reduce button service costs. Users wins: Easier life. Better than double touch home button to wake.

I think there is more to it then just requiring the sensors.

Those specific sensors are part of the mX package and are designed to do specific task. As I had mentioned somewhere else, the difference of including the m9 on the SOC makes a big difference when it comes to power consumption. Each set of mX processors were also designed for specific functions. So while the m7 might have all that sensor data it was likely designed to just collect and store with no evaluation procedures. The m9 might have addtional functionality of being able to evalueate what is being done while also collect the data.

This functionality, no DOUBT is possible in older phone but it likely would require use of the main processor to evaluate the data which result's in additional battery usage for minor task.

 

[lagwagon]

This feature will be a big deal when there is no physical home button this fall. The home button will just be for TouchID and returning to home from within apps. Raise to wake will show notifications on the lock screen, 3D Touch swiping already brings up the app switcher, "Hey Siri" already activates Siri. No need for a clickable button anymore. Also the reason that older devices with a Home button don't need it.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/02/04/apple-invention-hints-at-force-sensitive-touch-id-button

If the rumour is true it won't just be for Touch ID like you said. It will still function exactly the same as now, except it won't physically click in. Think newer MacBook trackpads. They still "click" but don't actually click in.

 

[efra]

Raise to wake works in iPhone SE

 

[jonobin]

So it's confirmed that it needs a SOC >= M9?

 

[efra]

Yea, i would say yes it is needed.

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

Yea, i would say yes it is needed.

Disappointing.

 

[jonobin]

Disappointing.

Can't disagree

 

[addictzz]

Am I correct to agree that this feature is really a big deal (and probably the biggest) among other new features of iOS 10?

Reason is that...it could save the number of times we physically press the home button or the power button to wake the screen. And that means lower rate of failure for those mechanical buttons.

I have been looking for this feature since iPhone 5. Only after few iterations later then it appears.

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

Am I correct to agree that this feature is really a big deal (and probably the biggest) among other new features of iOS 10?

Reason is that...it could save the number of times we physically press the home button or the power button to wake the screen. And that means lower rate of failure for those mechanical buttons.

I have been looking for this feature since iPhone 5. Only after few iterations later then it appears.

You'd think with the advent of "Touch Disease" in the 6 & 6 Plus they'd have done everything possible to limit the amount of times people press the Home button, as there's clearly a design fault with those models which was proven to be rectified in the 6S series.

Having said that, unless the current class action is successful and Apple admits this, they may just be hoping people shrug their shoulders and buy an iPhone 7.

 

[corelle]

A9 or later chip only

 

[addictzz]

You'd think with the advent of "Touch Disease" in the 6 & 6 Plus they'd have done everything possible to limit the amount of times people press the Home button, as there's clearly a design fault with those models which was proven to be rectified in the 6S series.

Having said that, unless the current class action is successful and Apple admits this, they may just be hoping people shrug their shoulders and buy an iPhone 7.

I have been trying to make Apple pay for their 'mistake' of having faulty power button on my iPhone 5. So little success due to so many rules they impose on the replacement program.

We can only put so much hope to fight against big company. So this Raise-to-Wake feature is a big lifesaver to some people esp me who likes to put display to sleep and wake it many times in a day.

 

[C DM]

You'd think with the advent of "Touch Disease" in the 6 & 6 Plus they'd have done everything possible to limit the amount of times people press the Home button, as there's clearly a design fault with those models which was proven to be rectified in the 6S series.

Having said that, unless the current class action is successful and Apple admits this, they may just be hoping people shrug their shoulders and buy an iPhone 7.

But with touch disease, from what I understand, it's the screen that wouldn't work, so the old way of sliding to unlock would actually be the way that would be affected and not work, while the new method of pressing the home button would actually work, right?

 

[Nr123*123]

This feature is very useful.

 

[KeanosMagicHat]

But with touch disease, from what I understand, it's the screen that wouldn't work, so the old way of sliding to unlock would actually be the way that would be affected and not work, while the new method of pressing the home button would actually work, right?

The cause of Touch Disease is believed to be board flexing. A contributory factor being pressing the home button.

Apple added strengthening measures in the 6S to prevent it - hence the design flaw accusation.