is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[MrWillie]

Setting Google maps as default is a good example

I would also like Google photos (or any non iCloud backup) to be able to backup photos in the background like iCloud can. As it stands you have to babysit it by opening the app occasionally or you have to leave it in the foreground with the screen on if you have large videos/ lots of pics in the queue

Why do you want to use an iPhone then ??? If you want to use Google services, than by all means get an Android. I don't even use Google search so...

But why would you want to use Google photos or Google maps ? With Apple, my data is my data, it's not shred with Apples "partners". I value the privacy.

Sure you can use any workaround but that is not the point and that wasn't what my post that you replied to was about either.
Also I use Siri.......no workaround for that one. I lose that functionality or just use the default apps if I want to use Siri.

Have you used the Google Now app on the iPhone ? What's wrong with the default app anyway ?

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Don't see why it is so hard to see that once you choose iOS your choices within the ecosystem are quite limited compared to Android. Surprised there can even be any debate there.

There's not a debate, there's denial. I don't even care, as I currently own devices of every mobile OS except Blackberry.

And it's not hate against iOS or Apple, it's just the truth. Cause WP is pretty limited too. But at least WP is overall much more compatible, has a file system, bluetooth is not limited, and etc. I wish iOS would do the same.

 

[MrWillie]

There's not a debate, there's denial. I don't even care, as I currently own devices of every mobile OS except Blackberry.

And it's not hate against iOS or Apple, it's just the truth. Cause WP is pretty limited too. But at least WP is overall much more compatible, has a file system, bluetooth is not limited, and etc. I wish iOS would do the same.

Denial of what ? That I can't use Apple Maps, iMessage, FaceTime, Podcast, ect on an Android device ?

I don't wish to use Google services. My devices integrate seamlessly into my life.

My one and only bitch is my text messages don't show up on my vehicle's display screen like my Q10 did. To switch back to the Q10 would leave my current flow broken. So would putting my HTC One back in service

 

[jamezr]

Have you used the Google Now app on the iPhone ? What's wrong with the default app anyway ?

I don't use G Now on my iphone. It is not the same user experience to be honest.

I prefer Google Maps and Chrome to name two. It's my preference. I will use whatever apps I want to thank you very much.
Why are you so defensive about me using different apps? If I want to buy an iPhone and use Google or any other apps on that phone......well that's my business and not yours tbh.

 

[MrWillie]

I don't use G Now on my iphone. It is not the same user experience to be honest.

I prefer Google Maps and Chrome to name two. It's my preference. I will use whatever apps I want to thank you very much.
Why are you so defensive about me using different apps? If I want to buy an iPhone and use Google or any other apps on that phone......well that's my business and not yours tbh.

Then why bring it up on a public forum ? No need to get defensive either. All I asked was what's wrong with the Apple' s stock apps. Tbh

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Denial of what ? That I can't use Apple Maps, iMessage, FaceTime, Podcast, ect on an Android device ?

I don't wish to use Google services. My devices integrate seamlessly into my life.

My one and only bitch is my text messages don't show up on my vehicle's display screen like my Q10 did. To switch back to the Q10 would leave my current flow broken. So would putting my HTC One back in service

My response to Surf Donkey had absolutely nothing to do with what you just mentioned. You sure like jumping in the middle of something without even knowing the context of the replies.

 

[C DM]

That's your suggestion for hands free while driving? Wouldn't want to see car accidents statistics for iPhone users.

Here's Steve Jobs demonstrating using Google Maps on iPhone while driving.

You realize that people have been and still are using all kinds of GPS and infotainment units in their cars without any voice input. By no means I'm saying that's better or that voice control shouldn't be used when possible, but just pointing out that despite the "funny pic" what you are describing is something that's been done by many for a long time now.

 

[MrWillie]

My response to Surf Donkey had absolutely nothing to do with what you just mentioned. You sure like jumping in the middle of something without even knowing the context of the replies.

I've been at work (not saying no one else hasn't ). Things were moving fast on here, I was just having a little trouble keeping up.

My question is why do people buy iPhones and try to turn them into Google phones ? When i used Android, I never mentioned not being able to run Apple services apps on it (Of course I did have an iOS theme installed ).

 

[C DM]

Sure you can use any workaround but that is not the point and that wasn't what my post that you replied to was about either.
Also I use Siri.......no workaround for that one. I lose that functionality or just use the default apps if I want to use Siri.

You mostly have no choice as far as what app you can set as the default, but you do have a choice as to what app you use for various things (short of a few native things like changing settings or getting something from the App Store).

 

[Truefan31]

I've been at work (not saying no one else hasn't ). Things were moving fast on here, I was just having a little trouble keeping up.

My question is why do people buy iPhones and try to turn them into Google phones ? When i used Android, I never mentioned not being able to run Apple services apps on it (Of course I did have an iOS theme installed ).

Because for some reason some people complain about iOS saying they should be like android. Like just use an android device then.

 

[jamezr]

Then why bring it up on a public forum ? No need to get defensive either. All I asked was what's wrong with the Apple' s stock apps. Tbh

Lol it was right above where you said why buy an iPhone and use Google services. Remember that part? Do I have to paste it here for you to remind you. Or are you just being aguementitive on purpose.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I've been at work (not saying no one else hasn't ). Things were moving fast on here, I was just having a little trouble keeping up.

My question is why do people buy iPhones and try to turn them into Google phones ? When i used Android, I never mentioned not being able to run Apple services apps on it (Of course I did have an iOS theme installed ).

Many feel Google maps is better, and they had years of experience with Google maps on the iPhone before Apple maps. Why wouldn't someone what to set it up as a default, if they prefer it?

Gmail is the more popular and robust of an email service, and it integrates with Google contacts, calendar, tasks, and etc. So it's not hard to understand why users would rather use that instead.

Apple has been great with services that are within it's ecosystem, but that's where it seems to end.

 

[jamezr]

Because for some reason some people complain about iOS saying they should be like android. Like just use an android device then.

Lol then that same logic aplies to participating in a Samsung thread huh?
I use both Android and IOS and I am not alone in doing that. So it nice to use a set of cross platform apps to sync and have the same user experience.

 

[epicrayban]

Falsely equating wanting to improve iOS to wanting iOS to be Android is entertaining to read.

 

[Truefan31]

Lol then that same logic aplies to participating in a Samsung thread huh?
I use both Android and IOS and I am not alone in doing that. So it nice to use a set of cross platform apps to sync and have the same user experience.

No it doesn't. Differing opinions are fine it's why we're here. But reading posts about how iOS should open up like android are exercises in futility. If you value those things that much, use an android device. Wanting third party services as default on an iPhone is imo pointless as everyone knows the iPhone shouldn't be for those people then.

The whole premise of iOS is unique. It's why Apple is so successful. You own both. That's great. But recognize that each being their own strengths and that wanting too much convergence can dilute those strengths to a degree.

 

[maxsix]

Not switching. Prefer iOS. Far more stable and secure.

I must say that I'd be thoroughly happy with Apple if they'd simply do their best.

Side by side, over the entire year of 2015, day to day usage my Nexus smartphone was much more stable than my iPhone 6 Plus.

Google Chrome browser never crashed or involuntarily restarted randomly with the message "faulty Web page" like Safari does regularly.

Claiming that an iPhone is far more stable is to make a false statement. Not a single hiccup over an entire year of heavy use is an impressive showing from Google.

 

[epicrayban]

No it doesn't. Differing opinions are fine it's why we're here. But reading posts about how iOS should open up like android are exercises in futility. If you value those things that much, use an android device. Wanting third party services as default on an iPhone is imo pointless as everyone knows the iPhone shouldn't be for those people then.

The whole premise of iOS is unique. It's why Apple is so successful. You own both. That's great. But recognize that each being their own strengths and that wanting too much convergence can dilute those strengths to a degree.

Such a shame for all there are people like you who feel and think this way.

 

[jamezr]

No it doesn't. Differing opinions are fine it's why we're here. But reading posts about how iOS should open up like android are exercises in futility. If you value those things that much, use an android device. Wanting third party services as default on an iPhone is imo pointless as everyone knows the iPhone shouldn't be for those people then.

The whole premise of iOS is unique. It's why Apple is so successful. You own both. That's great. But recognize that each being their own strengths and that wanting too much convergence can dilute those strengths to a degree.

No it is the same thing.....you told someone to basically not use an iphone if they wanted to use google services. Then the same logic applies to you....don't like Samsung phones or Android.....don't participate in the those threads. There simple....your own logic.

Because for some reason some people complain about iOS saying they should be like android. Like just use an android device then.

Then try try try to get context before you jump into a conversation that started pages ago....nobody was complaining about IOS...but pointing out the differences. there was more than one conversation going on. You jumped in and quotes just part of it....not following what took place and lead upto that.
But hey....you could just follow your own logic.

 

[mi7chy]

You realize that people have been and still are using all kinds of GPS and infotainment units in their cars without any voice input. By no means I'm saying that's better or that voice control shouldn't be used when possible, but just pointing out that despite the "funny pic" what you are describing is something that's been done by many for a long time now.

I don't know about you but the rest of the world, Wired, car publications, etc. declared standalone GPS dead back around 2011. Any recent decent car GPS like the one in Tesla is Google Maps based with 4G connectivity.

 

[Savor]

At first, I was thinking Apple is INVINCIBLE and nobody will ever surpass them in market share in North America and mobile profits. I saw a chart dating back to 2009 when RIM was still on top in NA before Android and Apple surpassed them shortly after for mobile OS and OEM hardware sales. Apple was about 18-19% back in 2009 or close to same globally right now. Looking at record numbers and profits, eventually iPhone users becomes over saturated which means less growth.

I do believe Apple is a forever company like Disney is. But to say they have the best all-around phone, I think they lost that title about three years ago. The latest iPhones have only been one of the Top 5 best but not really the best. I was watching a comparison between a Microsoft Lumia 640 (2015) vs iPhone 5s (2013) and was quite amazed how well the Lumia held up. A $30 phone vs a two-year older flagship that still can cost $200+ if you want it USED.

I was thinking it will be the Apple LOYALISTS that will keep their brand lasting forever being on top with mobile profits. But there were loyalists for Nintendo, Nokia, AOL, Sony, BlackBerry (BBM), and so on. They still have some of them now, but where are these names now? So we can never be overconfident either with brand loyalists or recent record numbers in sales and profits.

I just showed everyone here an article and chart of where Nokia was around 2007-2008. Greater market share than Samsung ever had and much longer on top. This company fell from grace less than half a decade while having brand loyalists, innovations like 3G networks, record volume/profit numbers, etc...

Again, I will never forget the 20-year old kid back in 2014 in my job next to me who didn't know what the hell a Sony Walkman was. Born 1994, the only portable music players we probably knows are iPods. And I have a second cousin who is younger who didn't know what an iPod from an iPhone either! Just like a generation that never saw Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant play and only aware of LeBron or Steph Curry, there is a current generation that isn't aware of Sony's heyday. They only know Apple's current heyday and aren't aware of their past failures. Kids born in the 2010's may also lose familiarity with Apple someday picking their generation of idols and heroes. Apple becomes old like Big Brother, IBM. The changing of the guard.

 

[Truefan31]

Such a shame for all there are people like you who feel and think this way.

Lol. I think what I said is pretty honest in my opinion. It's ok to disagree. But people complaining about what an iPhone cannot do should just not use an iPhone. Both platforms are seemingly converging to a somewhat similar experience but Apple will always keep its iPhone unique enough that it wouldn't be the same as other competition. Whether u like that or not is subjective but constantly complaining about why it's not happening is futile.

It's like people don't want to hear this but these companies don't care about us. We are the severe minority on these forums in the overall market.

 

[C DM]

I don't know about you but the rest of the world, Wired, car publications, etc. declared standalone GPS dead back around 2011. Any recent decent car GPS like the one in Tesla is Google Maps based with 4G connectivity.

And yet the point of plenty of people using plenty of them and infotainment systems in general without voice control still stands.

 

[I7guy]

I must say that I'd be thoroughly happy with Apple if they'd simply do their best.

Side by side, over the entire year of 2015, day to day usage my Nexus smartphone was much more stable than my iPhone 6 Plus.

Google Chrome browser never crashed or involuntarily restarted randomly with the message "faulty Web page" like Safari does regularly.

Claiming that an iPhone is far more stable is to make a false statement. Not a single hiccup over an entire year of heavy use is an impressive showing from Google.

While you have every phone under the sun, I have never seen the bolded, not once, on my 5s or 6s. On my ipad under 9.3b6 macrumors does exhibit some page reloads.

 

[Truefan31]

No it is the same thing.....you told someone to basically not use an iphone if they wanted to use google services. Then the same logic applies to you....don't like Samsung phones or Android.....don't participate in the those threads. There simple....your own logic.

Then try try try to get context before you jump into a conversation that started pages ago....nobody was complaining about IOS...but pointing out the differences. there was more than one conversation going on. You jumped in and quotes just part of it....not following what took place and lead upto that.
But hey....you could just follow your own logic.

I've read every post on this thread. You can do whatever you want with your phones. It's your money. And maybe this doesn't apply to you but there's people that complain about not being able to use third party services as default on iPhone. If it's that much of a pain point then don't use an iPhone. It's a suggestion that seemingly would relieve those that complain but yeah do what you want.

 

[jamezr]

I've read every post on this thread. You can do whatever you want with your phones. It's your money. And maybe this doesn't apply to you but there's people that complain about not being able to use third party services as default on iPhone. If it's that much of a pain point then don't use an iPhone. It's a suggestion that seemingly would relieve those that complain but yeah do what you want.

That does apply to me...i want to be able to use Google Maps as the default navigation app on my iphone. Why? I think it is a better navigation app. Simple as that.

I don't think wanting new features or likes to have things on an iphone should elicit that kind of response from you. Why do you feel threatened by that?

Lets use your own logic to your forum behavior....why do you a self proclaimed Samsung hater participate in every Samsung thread. If you do not like Samsung then don't participate in the Samsung threads......simple. See it works both ways.....