is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[nj1266]

It's just sad now...really sad. I have answered it and so has several others. No sense beating the horse over and over again. We all said it works.....

Fernandez21 answered the question. You punted as usual. He has an S7e and it behaved exactly as the LG G4 MM that I used did.

Why is it so hard for you to acknowledge that the S7e on MM does not provide hands free contact based navigation? I freely acknowledge that Google maps is better than Apple maps. I acknowledge that the S7e camera is better in low light than the iPhone 6 Plus camera.

I hope MRU chimes in on this. He is the most unbiased user of both platforms.

Please MRU tell us if your S7e navigates hands free from an address in your contacts?

 

[nj1266]

Yeah, I get the same option on my S7e, my 6SPlus actually takes me strait to navigation. Cool thing with Siri is I can just say "take me to my dad's house" and does it, Google now does a Web search.

[sarcasm]You must have a defective S7e because Jameszr has one that navigates hands free from an address in his contacts.[/sarcasm]

Your phone performs the same as the LG G4 on MM that I used. It is the same way my HTC One M7 on lollipop behaved. It is the same way an S5 on Touchwiz lollipop behaves.

 

[MrWillie]

Reads like your defending the iPhone rather then discussing it.

And since when has One Drive been 'heavily integrated' into iOS? What a load of twoddle. I use it, and you have to leave the app open for it to backup anything automatically.
It's also a damn site better then Apples iPhoto in iCloud. With that it backs up nicely and automatically but is THE most clunky, difficult, non intuitive system ever to share photos and videos with family members plus it is limited to 5 minute videos. It is absolutely useless but is the only system that backups automatically.
I had to research how to use it to share photos! And I know how to use tech. Incredibly un Apple like, in fact services is one area Apple has never been any good at and it trails behind Microsoft and Alphabet and Spotify by some distance.

Depends on your point of reference. But, heavily integrated with iOS may have been a poor choice of words. Heavily integrated with MS apps along with others is a better choice. Totally transparent depending on the app. I don't understand the having to open it part. I start a new email in Outlook, click on the attach paperclip, and there is everything, ready to be attached. Open Word, Excel, PDF editor, scanner app, ect, and bam, everything is there. (Which is how I configured each app initially.)

I don't understand your Photos problem but it sounds like you fixed it. Sharing is super easy.

One drive being well integrated on ios is a good joke.

It's comments like this that make me think that people haven't actually tried android to know what well integrated one drive is actually like. One of androids advantages is that it integrates third party services better than ios.

I used it for a year. Didn't like it. I can do more and do it faster and more efficiently than I could with Android. Why break a good thing, especially since i know even though Android has been updated, it still won't do some of the stuff i do.

 

[apolloa]

Depends on your point of reference. But, heavily integrated with iOS may have been a poor choice of words. Heavily integrated with MS apps along with others is a better choice. Totally transparent depending on the app. I don't understand the having to open it part. I start a new email in Outlook, click on the attach paperclip, and there is everything, ready to be attached. Open Word, Excel, PDF editor, scanner app, ect, and bam, everything is there. (Which is how I configured each app initially.)

I don't understand your Photos problem but it sounds like you fixed it. Sharing is super easy.

Yes 'heavily integrated into iOS' was flat out wrong. It runs as an app like any other, and you need to keep 'One Drive', the app you mentioned, open permanently for it to backup anything.

And no, sharing is far far far far far far far far far far from being super easy! It's an utter mess, Apple have developed one of the most stupid ways to share photos and videos they could have come up with. I did not fix my issue, oh and another issue is if you have photos and videos not taken with your phone, but taken with an Android etc device, and you want to share those with others in iPhoto, you have to do them one video or photo at a time!

iPhoto in iCloud is crap. As I stated, Apple is waaaayyyyyyyy behind everyone else when it comes to services.

 

[mi7chy]

I don't understand the having to open it part. I start a new email in Outlook, click on the attach paperclip, and there is everything, ready to be attached. Open Word, Excel, PDF editor, scanner app, ect, and bam, everything is there.

It's a lot more efficient and quicker to share directly from whatever app you were in whether gallery, file manager, etc. than the broken iOS way of having to quit whatever app you were in, launch a different app such as email client then waste time to locate the file you want to send when you were staring at it to begin with.

 

[Lloydbm41]

You are saying two contradictory things:

1. You first said that S7 gives you an address verification that you must touch to initiate navigation. That is not exactly hands free. I can do the same thing with Google maps using Siri. Ok Siri>navigate to Joe Blow>via transit. I get a screen that lets me choose ANY navigation App. I click on the app and start navigation.

2. In your second post you implied that there isn't an additional address verification screen that you have to touch. You implied that it is all hands free.

So which way does it work? Is it completely hands free? Or is there an address verification screen that you have to touch to start navigation on the phone?

When using Android Wear, there is no need to press or do anything. It brings up everything automatically on the watch and the phone.

If you do it via the phone only, it requires me to tap on the person's address for verification. This is because Google allows for multiple addresses, phone numbers and names for the same contact. I link all my contacts through G+, so it always requires my verification to ensure I navigate or call the correct address or phone number. If a contact doesn't have any additional info, maybe you don't need to verify anything as Jamezr indicated.

Two separate ways of using G Maps via two diff pieces of hardware, not contradictory.

Here is a quick video I just did showing via Android Wear on my Huawei watch and the S7e. Sorry for crap quality, as it is dark here and I had to use my tablet to video:

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Care to elaborate ? I've done everything on that list.

It appears you don't understand what an iPhone can or can't do.

I can teach you.

Elaboration: Go ahead and try the following.

Go online and download a file like word.exe or an mp3 or mp4. You simply can't unless you download a hack which bypasses Safari restrictions or you jailbreak your phone (even then you may not be able to). Like most simple things for an Android phone or laptop, iOS requires either complicated workarounds or a jailbrake.

Just one example.

 

[MRU]

I hope MRU chimes in on this. He is the most unbiased user of both platforms.

Please MRU tell us if your S7e navigates hands free from an address in your contacts?

And the Answer is = you are all right. It depends on the contact.


Firstly you are correct in this instance,

I asked Google Now to Navigate to Aidan

It then showed me Aidans card and I had to press down to reveal his address

I then had to press on his address to begin navigation.

However I then tried just Navigate Home and it this time did it automatically as Jamezr stated.

So both your own and Jamezr's results were experienced, so neither is wholly wrong or right as it depends entirely on the contact it seems.

 

[Fernandez21]

Elaboration: Go ahead and try the following.

Go online and download a file like word.exe or an mp3 or mp4. You simply can't unless you download a hack which bypasses Safari restrictions or you jailbreak your phone (even then you may not be able to). Like most simple things for an Android phone or laptop, iOS requires either complicated workarounds or a jailbrake.

Just one example.

Sure you can, here is an example of me downloading an .exe file. Only restriction is that the iPhone has no file manager for me to save it too, but I can save it to Dropbox for example, or a 3rd party file manager I have. They need to expand this though to save to iCloud.

 

[nj1266]

When using Android Wear, there is no need to press or do anything. It brings up everything automatically on the watch and the phone.

If you do it via the phone only, it requires me to tap on the person's address for verification. This is because Google allows for multiple addresses, phone numbers and names for the same contact. I link all my contacts through G+, so it always requires my verification to ensure I navigate or call the correct address or phone number. If a contact doesn't have any additional info, maybe you don't need to verify anything as Jamezr indicated.

Two separate ways of using G Maps via two diff pieces of hardware, not contradictory.

Here is a quick video I just did showing via Android Wear on my Huawei watch and the S7e. Sorry for crap quality, as it is dark here and I had to use my tablet to video:

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I am not talking about the watch. You brought that up. Thanks for confirming that when you say "ok google navigate to John Doe" on your Android phone (not watch) you will get an address verification screen and then you have to press it to start navigation. That is not hands free at all. You have to touch the screen. It is poor implementation. The implementation via Siri on the iPhone is hands free. That is a big difference in this era of distracted driving.

 

[Lloydbm41]

I am not talking about the watch. You brought that up. Thanks for confirming that when you say "ok google navigate to John Doe" on your Android phone (not watch) you will get an address verification screen and then you have to press it to start navigation. That is not hands free at all. You have to touch the screen. It is poor implementation. The implementation via Siri on the iPhone is hands free. That is a big difference in this era of distracted driving.

I can understand your point of view (hence why I use my watch), but I can also understand Google's implementation. What if Siri doesn't get the name right (which seems to happen to me because Siri doesn't understand what I say sometimes.) So no you have to stop the navigation and start over. Not the best thing when driving. When it works great. When it doesn't, you are worse off. Double edged sword.

 

[nj1266]

And the Answer is = you are all right. It depends on the contact.


Firstly you are correct in this instance,

I asked Google Now to Navigate to Aidan

It then showed me Aidans card and I had to press down to reveal his address

I then had to press on his address to begin navigation.

However I then tried just Navigate Home and it this time did it automatically as Jamezr stated.

So both your own and Jamezr's results were experienced, so neither is wholly wrong or right as it depends entirely on the contact it seems.

Thank you. It is hands free when you say "work" and "home." This is because the Google Maps app allows you to save your home address and work address. It does not, however, allows you to save any other address. My beef is navigating from an address in my contacts. It does not work hands free. You get to a confirmation screen, you then have to pull it down to get to the address, then tap the address, then Google Maps pulls the navigation screen, then you have to touch the navigation arrow to start navigation. So you have to touch the screen THREE time before navigation starts.

 

[Lloydbm41]

Sure you can, here is an example of me downloading an .exe file. Only restriction is that the iPhone has no file manager for me to save it too, but I can save it to Dropbox for example, or a 3rd party file manager I have. They need to expand this though to save to iCloud.

2 problems. One, not all .exe files are equal. Some are applications, which the iPhone will not allow you to download at all, regardless of what 3rd party app you have. Second, this is a completely convoluted way to do things, and not something the average Joe is likely to figure out or want to mess around with.

 

[nj1266]

I can understand your point of view (hence why I use my watch), but I can also understand Google's implementation. What if Siri doesn't get the name right (which seems to happen to me because Siri doesn't understand what I say sometimes.) So no you have to stop the navigation and start over. Not the best thing when driving. When it works great. When it doesn't, you are worse off. Double edged sword.

Siri can get things wrong sometimes, but the more it is used the better it gets. It is not perfect, no voice command is. But it has seldom given me a wrong direction from my address book.

 

[Fernandez21]

2 problems. One, not all .exe files are equal. Some are applications, which the iPhone will not allow you to download at all, regardless of what 3rd party app you have. Second, this is a completely convoluted way to do things, and not something the average Joe is likely to figure out or want to mess around with.

How is it more convoluted and different than android? You can't run an exe file on android either, so at best your just saving to the phone, which is the same thing the iPhone does. The only difference is that on android the file manager immediately pops up so you can save it to a folder, on iOS it loads it into safari and you have to select "open in" and choose where you want to save it to.

And all exe files are programs, and none are going to open on anything other than a Windows pc.

 

[MrWillie]

2 problems. One, not all .exe files are equal. Some are applications, which the iPhone will not allow you to download at all, regardless of what 3rd party app you have. Second, this is a completely convoluted way to do things, and not something the average Joe is likely to figure out or want to mess around with.

I'm not an average Joe, and I would never download a Windows executable file to my iPhone. Never. It's a moot point anyway because what average Joe is going to want to do this in the first place. I download Office and pdf files weekly from Safari. You're trying to find extreme reasons why the Android system is better. It's not.

I can ask Siri to take me to Angie's, and it will. If I have two addresses listed it will ask me which one. I tell it verbally, and it starts navigation. No screen touching.

So iOS wins Navigation.

Let me ask. Do you still need to set up print services with Google or can you print from Android natively yet like I've been able to do for a few years with iOS ??

With Android you can install an iOS theme to make it look like an iPhone and you can download, but not run Windows executable files more easily.


Of course you still haven't answered the reply to your wrong in so many places response.

 

[Vegastouch]

If the S7 Edge ran stock android like the Nexus phones do I would be all over it like a hot flannel.

I had a Nexus 5 and I don't prefer pure Android. I prefer the extras you get on the Galaxy devices, like split screen, to name one. I'm not interested in getting another Nexus phone.

As for the topic of this thread, the only threat to the iPhone is Apple when they don't give the people what they want.
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I'm not an average Joe, and I would never download a Windows executable file to my iPhone. Never. It's a moot point anyway because what average Joe is going to want to do this in the first place. I download Office and pdf files weekly from Safari. You're trying to find extreme reasons why the Android system is better. It's not.

I can ask Siri to take me to Angie's, and it will. If I have two addresses listed it will ask me which one. I tell it verbally, and it starts navigation. No screen touching.

So iOS wins Navigation.

Let me ask. Do you still need to set up print services with Google or can you print from Android natively yet like I've been able to do for a few years with iOS ??

With Android you can install an iOS theme to make it look like an iPhone and you can download, but not run Windows executable files more easily.


Of course you still haven't answered the reply to your wrong in so many places response.

I did. I have Cortana on my Android. But that's it.

 

[Truefan31]

This threads been entertaining lol.

Again to address the thread I don't think the s7 alone is a threat to the iPhone. It took time for the iPhone to establish itself as the top selling flagship smartphone. The addition of apple support is imo a big reason why it's separated itself from the pack. Say what you want about each device but it's pretty clear Apple support is significantly better.

The s7 looks to be a nice addition. I guess we'll see how the market responds to it. I would imagine it'd do well since basically they're offering all kinds of bonuses, along with now buy one get one frees. If the s7 line doesn't have a great quarter with that it'd be both a surprise and really disappointing on their end.

 

[MrWillie]

Yes 'heavily integrated into iOS' was flat out wrong. It runs as an app like any other, and you need to keep 'One Drive', the app you mentioned, open permanently for it to backup anything.

And no, sharing is far far far far far far far far far far from being super easy! It's an utter mess, Apple have developed one of the most stupid ways to share photos and videos they could have come up with. I did not fix my issue, oh and another issue is if you have photos and videos not taken with your phone, but taken with an Android etc device, and you want to share those with others in iPhoto, you have to do them one video or photo at a time!

iPhoto in iCloud is crap. As I stated, Apple is waaaayyyyyyyy behind everyone else when it comes to services.

I'm sorry, I don't understand the problem you're having with Photos. Mine is working perfect on both iOS and OS X. Super easy to share.

What are you trying to back up with One Drive ? i have it set in several apps to be the default save/load spot. I just dragged and dropped an Excel file on my desktop to OneDrive. I opened Outlook on the iPhone, started a new email, clicked attach, it shows the last three from OneDrive, i tap show all and it's the first one. We are obviously have two different experiences, if you wish you can PM me and we can go over Monday afternoon.

It's a lot more efficient and quicker to share directly from whatever app you were in whether gallery, file manager, etc. than the broken iOS way of having to quit whatever app you were in, launch a different app such as email client then waste time to locate the file you want to send when you were staring at it to begin with.

Just because you have MS Office Suite installed on your iPhone, it doesn't mean you want to create office documents on your phone. I also create a lot of files (Windows laptop) that are not compatible wth any iOS applications. Copies are saved to OneDrive. I can now access these file from any device or computer, and should my laptop get lost, stolen, or goes TU, i still have what I need. But the really neat thing is when i am out and about on a job site, have shut down for the day, or even at the hotel, I get asked for ****. (Or I get call because I screwed up some paperwork.) Daily. It's so much easier whip out the iPhone, click, click, click, it's done.

iOS is not broken. I can fix a daily report in Word or Excel, click the share button and select Outlook. It's attached. Didn't have to close anything.

 

[jamezr]

[sarcasm]You must have a defective S7e because Jameszr has one that navigates hands free from an address in his contacts.[/sarcasm]

Your phone performs the same as the LG G4 on MM that I used. It is the same way my HTC One M7 on lollipop behaved. It is the same way an S5 on Touchwiz lollipop behaves.

So why are so head strong on this? Two people have said it works for them. All except for you who wants so hard to say you found something that Apple can don't hate Android can't. Look how many posts now I'd sooooo mmayhthr a ads that you keep bringing this up. Then when refuted .....you call people a liar. Just stop now. Google Now works for me to navigate to my contacts that I have an address stored for them. But maybe you have that broken phone that it doesn't work? Maybe you are Jay making things up so you can say you found an issue and get some attention. It seems really sad for you.

 

[Fried_Gold]

I had a Nexus 5 and I don't prefer pure Android. I prefer the extras you get on the Galaxy devices, like split screen, to name one. I'm not interested in getting another Nexus phone.

I had the Nexus 5 and Nexus 6, I loved the stock Android experience. I've also owned the Samsung Note 3 and Samsung S6, whatever Android phone I switch to I always come back to the latest Apple offering.

Like others have said I'm not locked into either Apple or Android, it's easy for me to switch between.

 

[epicrayban]

Mossberg: the iPhone 7 had better be spectacular

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/23/11286052/walt-mossberg-apple-iphone-7-preview-predictions

 

[Fernandez21]

Mossberg: the iPhone 7 had better be spectacular

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/23/11286052/walt-mossberg-apple-iphone-7-preview-predictions

Pretty much agree with everything he listed, though I want to add multi-window and more customizations of the home screen to that list. And make icloud drive the file manager of the iPhone.

 

[Truefan31]

Mossberg: the iPhone 7 had better be spectacular

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/23/11286052/walt-mossberg-apple-iphone-7-preview-predictions

I can somewhat agree with the article. I'm not sure the bezels go away though. At least not as much as people seemingly want. The a10 I think will be a minor increase imo because the a9 was such an upgrade. The dual cameras I think can be a significant leap forward though.

Battery life idk. The 6s plus gets great battery life so I don't see a dramatic increase there at least in terms of battery capacity. Maybe they squeeze in a bigger battery due to removing the hp jack and 2nd gen 3D Touch probably being slimmer.

WWDC will determine I think how much the 7 will be different. It's the software we use constantly so iOS 10 will give a clear picture of things to come.

 

[tbayrgs]

Mossberg: the iPhone 7 had better be spectacular

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/23/11286052/walt-mossberg-apple-iphone-7-preview-predictions

Pretty much agree with everything he listed, though I want to add multi-window and more customizations of the home screen to that list. And make icloud drive the file manager of the iPhone.

Agree, though I personally don't care if multi-window is added to the phone. I can understand how some would like it, but I have no use for it on such small devices, especially if it's inclusion adversely affects performance in any way.

And before anyone starts to chime in on how Walt's crazy to still think the iPhone is the best overall smartphone--he has quite a long history with Apple and openly states his preference for iOS and OS X. Listen to his podcast on March 10 and he goes into greater detail regarding his issues with Samsung's software--the sole reason he still considers the iPhone better. Hardware is only half of the equation and a lot more subjective preference comes into play with one's choice of software. But I don't think there should be any doubt that the Galaxy S7's hardware is the best available now.

 

[nj1266]

So why are so head strong on this? Two people have said it works for them. All except for you who wants so hard to say you found something that Apple can don't hate Android can't. Look how many posts now I'd sooooo mmayhthr a ads that you keep bringing this up. Then when refuted .....you call people a liar. Just stop now. Google Now works for me to navigate to my contacts that I have an address stored for them. But maybe you have that broken phone that it doesn't work? Maybe you are Jay making things up so you can say you found an issue and get some attention. It seems really sad for you.

MRU confirmed that Android cannot navigate to an address in your contacts by voice commands. And so did Fernandez21. You are the only one who is saying that it can be done. And yet you have not posted screen shots showing us how. MRU posted detailed screenshots showing that it CANNOT be done. I would rather believe MRU than you. He is the most credible and balanced poster in this sub fora.

So here is my challenge to you: post screenshots showing the opposite of what MRU posted and then I will believe you. I predict that you will not do that because it does not work hands free.