is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[MrWillie]

Profits! Single core performance! Wow......

Don't forget real world head to head test.

Which is part of the point.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

S7 is still new, but after wading though the Android fanboyism, it appears to be another less than stellar device.

If you're looking for the facts as you mentioned. Then you would realize that the majority of reviews from blogs, vlogs, professional publications, and forum users, have agreed that the S7 is a stellar device. So I guess in your world, the majority of users and reviewers are Android fanboys.

 

[jamezr]

If you're looking for the facts as you mentioned. Then you would realize that the majority of reviews from blogs, vlogs, professional publications, and forum users, have gave agreed that the S7 is a stellar device. So I guess in your world, the majority of users and reviewers are Android fanboys.

yep agree.....Samsung is getting accolades for their design and features in the S7 line.
Best display on a smartphone
Best camera on a smartphone
IP68 rated for waterproofing
SD Card for expandable storage
Improved all day battery life
Ergonomic form factor fitting a 5.5 inch display in a small form factor

 

[epicrayban]

If you're looking for the facts as you mentioned. Then you would realize that the majority of reviews from blogs, vlogs, professional publications, and forum users, have agreed that the S7 is a stellar device. So I guess in your world, the majority of users and reviewers are Android fanboys.

I guess it really burns people that someone other than Apple is putting out better products. Instead of seeing that as healthy competition, they seem to get hurt or offended.

As for MrWillie's profit comment, no arguments there. Apple has the greatest profits. Yet, for some reason, my iPhone experience doesn't seem to be getting any better. What a mystery. The way it's brought up around here by certain people, you'd think profit = better user experience.

When did "profits" become a feature? Do I have a lemon device? Should I schedule a Genius appointment?

Again, when discussing Google's shortcomings, notice nobody seriously brings up superior marketshare as some form of defense of explanation for how the state of Google/Android is. And it's interesting because doesn't marketshare equate to serious profits for Google? Speaking generally now. Doesn't more marketshare mean more people are using Google/Android devices leading to more Google services and searches, etc? So doesn't having marketshare for Google mean they're succeeding in their own right with their specific business model?

But again, when was the last time one heard "Well, Google has the most marketshare!" when discussing how Google can get better with carrier relations or software updates or whatever?

 

[Truefan31]

I guess it really burns people that someone other than Apple is putting out better products. Instead of seeing that as healthy competition, they seem to get hurt or offended.

As for MrWillie's profit comment, no arguments there. Apple has the greatest profits. Yet, for some reason, my iPhone experience doesn't seem to be getting any better. What a mystery. The way it's brought up around here by certain people, you'd think profit = better user experience.

When did "profits" become a feature? Do I have a lemon device? Should I schedule a Genius appointment?

Again, when discussing Google's shortcomings, notice nobody seriously brings up superior marketshare as some form of defense of explanation for how the state of Google/Android is. And it's interesting because doesn't marketshare equate to serious profits for Google? Speaking generally now. Doesn't more marketshare mean more people are using Google/Android devices leading to more Google services and searches, etc? So doesn't having marketshare for Google mean they're succeeding in their own right with their specific business model?

But again, when was the last time one heard "Well, Google has the most marketshare!" when discussing how Google can get better with carrier relations or software updates or whatever?

Google does want people using their search and services. So they basically give away android to oems for them to produce their hardware to try to work with whatever skin they put over the android os. Market share for what though? For ad based sponsored search yes they're successful. But android market share doesn't directly correlate to smartphone profit, as Apple is getting over 90% of flagship smartphone profit overall. Even nexus devices are outsourced to oems.

So when the subject of profits come up it's a statement of what really matters in the real world. Selling a bunch of phones with little or no profit like a lot of oems do means very little because they're basically being given away. I'd imagine it's ok for Google because they want the people using their services, but it's not helping the android oem actually make money. But the actual paying customers, the ones who can afford to buy the phones that actually turn a profit for the company who produces it, seemingly want an iPhone based on it being the top selling flagship phone. When people say Apple needs to do this or they need to step up, it's basically personal opinion. Because in reality real data shows the iPhone still being at the top.

These companies don't care about us. We are a fraction of a fraction of what their priorities are. It's funny some people say Samsung listened to the customers. No they didn't. They listened to their earnings call and quarterly sales reports that told them they weren't doing as well as hoped. So after taking things away in the s6 like the removable battery, sd card, ir blaster, etc. they added some back in the s7. Kind of a slap in the face for s6 owners imo. They listened to the dollar, like every company does. If Apple experiences fledgling quarters consistently then I'm sure we'll see Apple start making changes as well. Maybe the iPhone se is a little start. But seeing how they still dominate the flagship smartphone market they seem to be competing just fine for now.

 

[epicrayban]

Google does want people using their search and services. So they basically give away android to oems for them to produce their hardware to try to work with whatever skin they put over the android os. Market share for what though? For ad based sponsored search yes they're successful. But android market share doesn't directly correlate to smartphone profit, as Apple is getting over 90% of flagship smartphone profit overall. Even nexus devices are outsourced to oems.

So when the subject of profits come up it's a statement of what really matters in the real world. Selling a bunch of phones with little or no profit like a lot of oems do means very little because they're basically being given away. I'd imagine it's ok for Google because they want the people using their services, but it's not helping the android oem actually make money. But the actual paying customers, the ones who can afford to buy the phones that actually turn a profit for the company who produces it, seemingly want an iPhone based on it being the top selling flagship phone. When people say Apple needs to do this or they need to step up, it's basically personal opinion. Because in reality real data shows the iPhone still being at the top.

These companies don't care about us. We are a fraction of a fraction of what their priorities are. It's funny some people say Samsung listened to the customers. No they didn't. They listened to their earnings call and quarterly sales reports that told them they weren't doing as well as hoped. So after taking things away in the s6 like the removable battery, sd card, ir blaster, etc. they added some back in the s7. Kind of a slap in the face for s6 owners imo. They listened to the dollar, like every company does. If Apple experiences fledgling quarters consistently then I'm sure we'll see Apple start making changes as well. Maybe the iPhone se is a little start. But seeing how they still dominate the flagship smartphone market they seem to be competing just fine for now.

Absolutely. And I get that there is correlation. But it's still used way too often when discussing user experiences or what features Apple can bring. I also argue that a lot of their profits have more to do with the brand and reputation they've built. Some of it is deserving, but we're at a point in time where that branding, I argue, is hurting the user experience, and making fellow Apple fans see the overall picture in a imprecise way. You can't be blinded by profit when discussing features that we are seeing implemented by other OEMs. Again, how is profits a feature? It's not. The argument that the majority of people must not require the feature because Apple hasn't done it yet and aren't hurting profit-wise is, in my opinion, folly. And goes against the one notion that these Apple fans love to espouse: personal use.

The whole Apple discussion is a hard thing to approach and debate, but it's a necessary one for the long run. And us posters here are not alone. There are recent articles that are diving into what Apple should/needs to do. These are not "Apple is doom" type articles. They're actually very analytical. And the rumors of Apple also pursuing curved and larger screens in a future iteration of the iPhone? Or developing their own form of wireless charging? There are OEMs that have done that, and that are providing, I argue, a better user experience with those and other features. Yet, they certainly aren't seeing the same level of profits as Apple. And there are a number of reasons for that.

At the end of the day, my point is, profits does not necessarily equate to a better user experience, and bringing it up so often when discussing things like user experience and features is a waste of everyone's time. Yes, the iPhone is still the number one selling and most popular and iconic smartphone. And because of that, Apple can get away with the pace of innovation/features that they're currently on. In fact, they get away with it all the way to the bank with record sales.

Like I said, it's not an easy discussion to be had, especially as an Apple fan.

Instead, it's easier and more tempting to look at those record breaking profits and conclude Apple is doing everything right. But anybody who is honest about improving user experience, anybody who is open minded enough to try the competition, and anybody who is genuine when they say the most important thing is "personal use" should know that that's a tempting conclusion that must be resisted.

Or not. : Shrug : Just my thoughts.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

It's funny some people say Samsung listened to the customers. No they didn't. They listened to their earnings call and quarterly sales reports that told them they weren't doing as well as hoped. So after taking things away in the s6 like the removable battery, sd card, ir blaster, etc. they added some back in the s7. Kind of a slap in the face for s6 owners imo. They listened to the dollar, like every company does.

I'm sure everyone realizes the underlying reasoning beside Samsung's actions. But the fact is, they did listen, and it makes people feel good when they see their power as a consumer work for them.

I'm personally not offended that I previously got the S6 edge which lacked many features the S7 has. That's the choice that I made, and the S6 edge was still a great phone.

If Apple experiences fledgling quarters consistently then I'm sure we'll see Apple start making changes as well. Maybe the iPhone se is a little start. But seeing how they still dominate the flagship smartphone market they seem to be competing just fine for now.

Apple is competing based off of branding. Is the iPhone, iOS, and Apple services a bad experience? NO, it's not. But it's offering combined with it's value is sup par compared to the competition. No other tech based company is able to do that. But even you realize, that's not going to last forever.

 

[Michael Goff]

I guess it really burns people that someone other than Apple is putting out better products. Instead of seeing that as healthy competition, they seem to get hurt or offended.

As for MrWillie's profit comment, no arguments there. Apple has the greatest profits. Yet, for some reason, my iPhone experience doesn't seem to be getting any better. What a mystery. The way it's brought up around here by certain people, you'd think profit = better user experience.

When did "profits" become a feature? Do I have a lemon device? Should I schedule a Genius appointment?

Again, when discussing Google's shortcomings, notice nobody seriously brings up superior marketshare as some form of defense of explanation for how the state of Google/Android is. And it's interesting because doesn't marketshare equate to serious profits for Google? Speaking generally now. Doesn't more marketshare mean more people are using Google/Android devices leading to more Google services and searches, etc? So doesn't having marketshare for Google mean they're succeeding in their own right with their specific business model?

But again, when was the last time one heard "Well, Google has the most marketshare!" when discussing how Google can get better with carrier relations or software updates or whatever?

I'd argue their bigger marketshare isn't a defense, but an indictment. They need to fix the problem of updates because their OS is used almost as many people (or maybe more) than people who use Windows. And I couldn't imagine being okay with my laptop not getting security updates.

 

[epicrayban]

I'm sure everyone realizes the underlying reasoning beside Samsung's actions. But the fact is, they did listen, and it makes people feel good when they see their power as a consumer work for them.

I'm personally not offended that I previously got the S6 edge which lacked many features the S7 has. That's the choice that I made, and the S6 edge was still a great phone.





Apple is competing based off of branding. Is the iPhone, iOS, and Apple services a bad experience? NO, it's not. But it's offering combined with it's value is sup par compared to the competition. No other tech based company is able to do that. But even you realize, that's not going to last forever.

Your first point: Yes, exactly. Call it what you want, but they paid attention, and brought back the features that people wanted. Prior to the S6, nearly everyone was calling for them to get better design and materials and build quality. They did that. Unfortunately, at certain costs. Then, they sorted most of that out with the S7. I don't feel the least bit sleighted as an S6 owner. Quite the opposite.

I've said this before, the S7 is the single greatest year over year upgrade. They built on what worked from the S6, and they improved it in the key areas it was lacking in. And all this on top of the already stable Android Marshmallow foundation.

The S7 Edge is the most worry-free phone I've ever owned.
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I'd argue their bigger marketshare isn't a defense, but an indictment. They need to fix the problem of updates because their OS is used almost as many people (or maybe more) than people who use Windows. And I couldn't imagine being okay with my laptop not getting security updates.

Fair point.

 

[Voodoochild346]

While I do have have a fetish for women's feet, I like geeky women. A true geek knows that single core benchmarks belong to Apple, and with 8 cores, the geek bench, score belongs to Sammy, however the geek knows that in real world testing, the iPhone walks all over Samsung, even with Sammy's 4 gig of ram. The geek would remember Samsung CEO saying how disappointed he was with S6 sales numbers and then slashed prices.

While some consumers get mesmerized by over saturated screens and photos, us pros like them more natural.

So I fail to see how that with the S6 and S7 it's Samsungs golden era.

No ma'am, I don't want to see your feet.

I hate when so called "techies" make the statement about oversaturated screens as a negative for new samsung phones. You turn on basic mode in the screen options in any phone s6 or later and they're the most color accurate displays on the market. It's like people willfully ignore certain things to make their company of choice seem superior. There are things that the iPhone 6s does better that the samsung phones. Screen isn't one of them and it's not close.

 

[epicrayban]

I hate when so called "techies" make the statement about oversaturated screens as a negative for new samsung phones. You turn on basic mode in the screen options in any phone s6 or later and they're the most color accurate displays on the market. It's like people willfully ignore certain things to make their company of choice seem superior. There are things that the iPhone 6s does better that the samsung phones. Screen isn't one of them and it's not close.

We used to have no problem -- none whatsoever -- calling the iPhone the best at the things it did. Today, the iPhone still does a few things best. And likewise, those remaining few things we have no problem labeling as such.

But if another OEM becomes the best at something and we say, "this is now the best," then suddenly it's met with extreme nuance. Suddenly there is nitpicking, strawmans, or sometimes straight up untruths.

This is why it's easy to discount the opinions of people who do not use both platforms. They can only infer so much by reading/watching about the competition. As such, their arguments are almost always from a point of ignorance.

 

[jaymzuk]

We used to have no problem -- none whatsoever -- calling the iPhone the best at the things it did. Today, the iPhone still does a few things best. And likewise, those remaining few things we have no problem labeling as such.

But if another OEM becomes the best at something and we say, "this is now the best," then suddenly it's met with extreme nuance. Suddenly there is nitpicking, strawmans, or sometimes straight up untruths.

This is why it's easy to discount the opinions of people who do not use both platforms. They can only infer so much by reading/watching about the competition. As such, their arguments are almost always from a point of ignorance.

Spot on.

iPhone used to be that much better than anything that was out on the market. Now... It's good, but is it a huge step above the competition? Not at all. I've moved from the iPhone 6 to the S7 and I've not looked back. The iPhone 6 was great, but so is the S7. There are aspects of the S7 that are much better than the iPhone, and I'd probably still argue that iOS probably ties everything up in a slightly cleaner way and is simpler. Both are great phones.

When it comes to performance benchmarks, everyone needs to stop willy-waving. Seriously. Nobody with a life actually cares. It's either fast, it's okay, or it's infuriating. Both are fast, certainly fast enough that there are no real world issues with using either phone.

And profits. Dear oh dear. I don't care how much money Apple or Samsung or Google make. I don't rejoice when they make huge profits, as long as I get the support I need (Which is hopefully none), when I need it, I don't care.

Both phones are great. Enjoy them

 

[Voodoochild346]

We used to have no problem -- none whatsoever -- calling the iPhone the best at the things it did. Today, the iPhone still does a few things best. And likewise, those remaining few things we have no problem labeling as such.

But if another OEM becomes the best at something and we say, "this is now the best," then suddenly it's met with extreme nuance. Suddenly there is nitpicking, strawmans, or sometimes straight up untruths.

This is why it's easy to discount the opinions of people who do not use both platforms. They can only infer so much by reading/watching about the competition. As such, their arguments are almost always from a point of ignorance.

I don't understand the loyalty to companies that charge a premium for a device or service. When I got my s6 last year, I had every intention of getting an HTC m9. I left the t-mobile store with an s6 because I noticed how large the disparity between the 2 cameras was. I even had an internal struggle where I was trying to come up with a solution where I would still get the m9. "Well I can just get a point and shoot or just have someone else take pictures at social functions and have them send me pictures." I said to myself until I snapped out of it. I realized that I'm going to be paying $700 for a phone, why am compromising just because I like HTC? So I bought the s6 and haven't looked back.

As soon as samsung starts slipping I'll spend my money elsewhere. People defend these companies(especially apple) like they gave them free phones. Go with the company that gives you the best value for your needs. I still can't believe people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones...

 

[I7guy]

I don't understand the loyalty to companies that charge a premium for a device or service. When I got my s6 last year, I had every intention of getting an HTC m9. I left the t-mobile store with an s6 because I noticed how large the disparity between the 2 cameras was. I even had an internal struggle where I was trying to come up with a solution where I would still get the m9. "Well I can just get a point and shoot or just have someone else take pictures at social functions and have them send me pictures." I said to myself until I snapped out of it. I realized that I'm going to be paying $700 for a phone, why am compromising just because I like HTC? So I bought the s6 and haven't looked back.

As soon as samsung starts slipping I'll spend my money elsewhere. People defend these companies(especially apple) like they gave them free phones. Go with the company that gives you the best value for your needs. I still can't believe people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones...

So on one hand, "people defend these companies" and then "people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones". Quite the subtle way to take a swipe at Apple.

 

[Voodoochild346]

So on one hand, "people defend these companies" and then "people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones". Quite the subtle way to take a swipe at Apple.

See this is what I'm talking about. I was talking down on people defending phones and really general tech that costs good money to own. I gave an example of having to dissuade myself from getting a HTC m9 because it didn't offer the value for my use case compared to the competition. So I when with the competition. The ram issue was an example of people taking something that only benefits from its inclusion and defending it's absence. But way to take apple out of that statement and find to try and create bias...

 

[epicrayban]

So on one hand, "people defend these companies" and then "people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones". Quite the subtle way to take a swipe at Apple.

So on one hand, you defend the Magic Mouse's charging port as fine design because you have things in your house that also cannot be used while charging. And on the other hand, you knock the Note 5's S-pen design even though people have explained that there are lots of things in the world that can only be inserted one way.

So on one hand, you use one website's camera test to say the S6's camera really isn't worth the hype, and on the other hand, completely ignore the multitude of other website camera tests that claim otherwise.

So on one hand, you say personal use is the most important thing. And then on the other hand obfuscate and/or otherwise impede any discussion where users wish for certain features to better their own iPhone experience.

Need more?

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

No Android phone is a threat to the iPhone, just as no iPhone is any threat to any Android phone. Everyone has their own software preference and hardware specs probably won't do much to change it.

That said, the S7 looks great and has some awesome specs but, like many other Android phones, it's hampered by bloated Samsung and Carrier software. If Samsung saw fit to release an unlocked, pure Android version of that phone, I'd definitely be in for one!

I am sporting a brand new S7 and it IS great. Frankly it is the best phone I have ever owned. The carrier bloat ware is a problem I agree, but luckily I am on T-mobile and they put very little on. AT&T on the other hand, it is awful. But yes, it would be better if there were none at all and Samsung needs to make that happen. Samsung's software isn't bad this go round. In the past touch wiz was overbearing. But this time it is not. The S7 is almost perfect really. And water resistant!

 

[epicrayban]

I am sporting a brand new S7 and it IS great. Frankly it is the best phone I have ever owned. The carrier bloat ware is a problem I agree, but luckily I am on T-mobile and they put very little on. AT&T on the other hand, it is awful. But yes, it would be better if there were none at all and Samsung needs to make that happen. Samsung's software isn't bad this go round. In the past touch wiz was overbearing. But this time it is not. The S7 is almost perfect really. And water resistant!

TouchWiz + Marshmallow is the absolute best android experience. Perfect combo of features and stability.

 

[MadeTheSwitch]

You use the term fanboys, me personally, I have a hard science background. I'm looking for the facts. Fact is, iPhone uses a superior CPU, Samsung uses more cores of a lesser architecture. I even mentioned the Sammy wins the multi core bench marks. I've seen people p&m about Apples use of 2 Gigs of ram and praise Sammy for 4, yet all of the videos I've seen make it a moot point.

My main gripe though was the comment about it being Samsung's golden age due to the S6 and S7. Samsung's COE publicly stated that they were disappointed with the S6 and then promptly slashed their prices. It appears that due to marketing cost, they may have even lost money on the device.

S7 is still new, but after wading though the Android fanboyism, it appears to be another less than stellar device.

So with the less than stellar Sammy devices, coupled with fact that Apple takes in 90% of the smart phone profits, I fail to see how it can be the golden age for anyone but one company, and that company sure the hell isn't Samsung.

Less than stellar? Wow. Someone is really in denial. The S7 is finally something really good (and yes stellar) from Samsung. It is literally the first Samsung that I have ever wanted to own. And now I do.

 

[I7guy]

So on one hand, you defend the Magic Mouse's charging port as fine design because you have things in your house that also cannot be used while charging. And on the other hand, you knock the Note 5's S-pen design even though people have explained that there are lots of things in the world that can only be inserted one way.

So on one hand, you use one website's camera test to say the S6's camera really isn't worth the hype, and on the other hand, completely ignore the multitude of other website camera tests that claim otherwise.

So on one hand, you say personal use is the most important thing. And then on the other hand obfuscate and/or otherwise impede any discussion where users wish for certain features to better their own iPhone experience.

Need more?

Nice (not so) subtle case of deflection. Here's the original quote:

"People defend these companies(especially apple) like they gave them free phones. Go with the company that gives you the best value for your needs. I still can't believe people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones..."

So people will "defend" all companies like they gave them free phones? But mostly apple? So I guess no other company counts as much.

Then (sic) go with the best company for you, however, people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iphones? So even though iphone doesn't have an SD slot, it's not okay, even though one should go with the best company for you.

Seems analogous to I prefer photo a over photo b. /s
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See this is what I'm talking about. I was talking down on people defending phones and really general tech that costs good money to own. I gave an example of having to dissuade myself from getting a HTC m9 because it didn't offer the value for my use case compared to the competition. So I when with the competition. The ram issue was an example of people taking something that only benefits from its inclusion and defending it's absence. But way to take apple out of that statement and find to try and create bias...

So the ram issue is a bit different on the iphone than the s7, where one can go to 128 and one goes to 32 but has an sd card slot. To me the ram issue is the least of the differences between the phones, yes it's nice to have an sd card slot as I miss that from my BB, but to me not a talking point.

 

[nj1266]

The guys aren't lying.

For some contacts it works right away with me and yet for others it asks a supplemental address question which I then have to interact with despite the contact only having one address in their contact listing. It's a strange quirk.

But as I say for others it does indeed work automatically, so as I outlined in my previous post it does seem to be dependant on the contact for me.

But that's for me.

For other users there's no reason to assume or presume it doesn't work each time, for them it may indeed do so.


There are of course other factors in this such as voice recognition languages. It's entirely possible that Google search handles different languages and search results slightly differently based on language settings. English United States for example my have more features in recognition software than English Ireland.




And here's a video to show how quirky it can be. My S7e (with action launcher)

Same person, first time it asks, second time it goes straight to.

1. Sorry quickly shot on my iPod ... It asks address question (yet the contact only has one address in their contact address book)

2. Shot on iPhone .. Asked again this time just jumps straight to it.

So in parts everyone is right, but there is no denying that for some it works without issue - there's enough videos now that this subject should be finally dropped. It's time to

"Let it go, let it go, be one with the wind and snow'... Damn Frozen !!!


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Besides ....

I don't even use Navigation ... I generally know where my friends and contacts in my address book live

So it is inconsistent? Would you agree? When I tried it on an LG G4 on MM after these videos were posted, it worked for one address but it failed for the others that I tried. When I tried it on my HTC One M7 on 5.x it also failed to go straight to navigation. It pulled the contact and then I had to do a pull down to get to the address and touch the address to start navigation.

So why is it so inconsistent? Why does it not work for you and Fernandez and I (though I do not own an S7e) but works for three others? What is going on here? That would be interesting to find.

 

[Voodoochild346]

Nice (not so) subtle case of deflection. Here's the original quote:

"People defend these companies(especially apple) like they gave them free phones. Go with the company that gives you the best value for your needs. I still can't believe people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones..."

So people will "defend" all companies like they gave them free phones? But mostly apple? So I guess no other company counts as much.

Then (sic) go with the best company for you, however, people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iphones? So even though iphone doesn't have an SD slot, it's not okay, even though one should go with the best company for you.

Seems analogous to I prefer photo a over photo b. /s
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So the ram issue is a bit different on the iphone than the s7, where one can go to 128 and one goes to 32 but has an sd card slot. To me the ram issue is the least of the differences between the phones, yes it's nice to have an sd card slot as I miss that from my BB, but to me not a talking point.

You are aware of the differences of ram and general storage right? Why you've brought up SD cards only you know.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

So it is inconsistent? Would you agree? When I tried it on an LG G4 on MM after these videos were posted, it worked for one address but it failed for the others that I tried. When I tried it on my HTC One M7 on 5.x it also failed to go straight to navigation. It pulled the contact and then I had to do a pull down to get to the address and touch the address to start navigation.

So why is it so inconsistent? Why does it not work for you and Fernandez and I (though I do not own an S7e) but works for three others? What is going on here? That would be interesting to find.

Care to show us videos on your inconsistent use on the LG G4 and your M7?

 

[Fernandez21]

I don't understand the loyalty to companies that charge a premium for a device or service. When I got my s6 last year, I had every intention of getting an HTC m9. I left the t-mobile store with an s6 because I noticed how large the disparity between the 2 cameras was. I even had an internal struggle where I was trying to come up with a solution where I would still get the m9. "Well I can just get a point and shoot or just have someone else take pictures at social functions and have them send me pictures." I said to myself until I snapped out of it. I realized that I'm going to be paying $700 for a phone, why am compromising just because I like HTC? So I bought the s6 and haven't looked back.

As soon as samsung starts slipping I'll spend my money elsewhere. People defend these companies(especially apple) like they gave them free phones. Go with the company that gives you the best value for your needs. I still can't believe people defended the lack of ram upgrades in iPhones...

I think it's more than a loyalty thing. I think it's an "I'm right" ego thing. People spend quite a bit of money on these things, and when they do, they get the one they think is best. And what happens is that these people can't take the idea of being wrong, so when someone talks about another phone being better, they get all riled up because in their mind they spent their hard earned money on the best one so that other phone can't be the best and will set out to prove it to satisfy their insecurities.

 

[epicrayban]

I think it's more than a loyalty thing. I think it's an "I'm right" ego thing. People spend quite a bit of money on these things, and when they do, they get the one they think is best. And what happens is that these people can't take the idea of being wrong, so when someone talks about another phone being better, they get all riled up because in their mind they spent their hard earned money on the best one so that other phone can't be the best and will set out to prove it to satisfy their insecurities.

Yup. I have no problem returning a device I don't like and speaking negatively about it. As I have done with previous iphones and android phones. Most recently? The nexus 6p. Stock didn't do it for me and I said as such in the 6p thread.