is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[tbayrgs]

tbh...you can disable anything you do not use. Once disabled....they will not run in the background and use resources. They will not prompt you to update them and they won't show up in the app drawer. So for all purposes...they are gone. They don't run and they don't use system resources.
And you don't need root or any special app to do what i described above.

But how many of these processes aren't just specific apps but rather maybe obscurely labeled system level processes? Trying to identify these and inadvertently disabling something essential could lead to even worse performance problems. I admit I haven't dove into the recent versions of TouchWiz and it may very well be quite clear cut...don't remember it being that way in the past.

My only point is that users shouldn't have to do that and thankfully, it seems that doing so is less necessary if at all since S7 performance seems pretty damn smooth.

 

[Surf Donkey]

tbh...you can disable anything you do not use. Once disabled....they will not run in the background and use resources. They will not prompt you to update them and they won't show up in the app drawer. So for all purposes...they are gone. They don't run and they don't use system resources.
And you don't need root or any special app to do what i described above.

Sure, let me just go through and disable each non-essential package and process (this is just what is under Android System).

 

[jamezr]

Sure, let me just go through and disable each non-essential package and process (this is just what is under Android System.

Here we go again......I noticed you compared it to the s6...why not the Note 5?
Then if the 6p running stock is so much more efficient without all those processes running.......why doesn't it get better battery life? In fact the note 5 with a smaller battery (3000 mAh) gets better battery life than the 6P with a larger (3450 mAh) battery. So even with all those processes you listed the Note 5 gets better battery life than the 6P with a larger battery running stock without the TW processes you listed. Then TW offers a lot more features than stock running on the 6P. So let's recap......Note 5 with all the TW processes running in the back ground and a smaller battery gets better battery life than the 6P and has more features.[

 

[Surf Donkey]

Here we go again......I noticed you compared it to the s6...why not the Note 5?

Only list I could find. I'd be happy to update with the Note 5 or S7 Edge if you want to pull those from GSM battery.

Then if the 6p running stock is so much more efficient without all those processes running.......why doesn't it get better battery life? In fact the note 5 with a smaller battery (3000 mAh) gets better battery life than the 6P with a larger (3450 mAh) battery. So even with all those processes you listed the Note 5 gets better battery life than the 6P with a larger battery running stock without the TW processes you listed. Then TW offers a lot more features than stock running on the 6P. So let's recap......Note 5 with all the TW processes running in the back ground and a smaller battery gets better battery life than the 6P and has more features.

Quite simple, the 810 sucks. It is inefficient and throttles like crazy. I am sure you know that. That is all there is to it. Great if it gets better battery life, it has a better SOC. I would love to have the Exynos in the Nexus. That would be awesome.

In my opinion, this is all bloat. Great if you find it useful, I never would. So it is all bloat to me. Crap that slows down everything (this is proven even on the S7 w/ Snapdragon). And like all other Samsung phones, it will only get worse with time. Of course if you turn over your phone every six months, not a big deal.

I just wish Samsung would have made their own OS. I am bitter (obviously) that they took a very efficient OS, skinned it, bloated the hell out of it with gimmicks, went directly against Apple at a time when their system image was truly dismal, and people think this is the "Droid" experience. Great they are working to improve that after 7 years. But they should have botched it so much to begin with.

And this all is an answer to the original statement that .... NO, you can't just install a new launcher and it removes Touchwiz. And saying you can just disable all the processes is silly and obviously not going to actually be possible without causing stability issues.

 

[jamezr]

Only list I could find. I'd be happy to update with the Note 5 or S7 Edge if you want to pull those from GSM battery.



Quite simple, the 810 sucks. It is inefficient and throttles like crazy. I am sure you know that. That is all there is to it. Great if it gets better battery life, it has a better SOC. I would love to have the Exynos in the Nexus. That would be awesome.

In my opinion, this is all bloat. Great if you find it useful, I never would. So it is all bloat to me. Crap that slows down everything (this is proven even on the S7 w/ Snapdragon). And like all other Samsung phones, it will only get worse with time. Of course if you turn over your phone every six months, not a big deal.

I just wish Samsung would have made their own OS. I am bitter (obviously) that they took a very efficient OS, skinned it, bloated the hell out of it with gimmicks, went directly against Apple at a time when their system image was truly dismal, and people think this is the "Droid" experience. Great they are working to improve that after 7 years. But they should have botched it so much to begin with.

And this all is an answer to the original statement that .... NO, you can't just install a new launcher and it removes Touchwiz. And saying you can just disable all the processes is silly and obviously not going to actually be possible without causing stability issues.

but despite your rant and dislike for Samsung and TW and the processes you listed running in the background The note 5 and S7 still get better battery life than the 6P running stock without all those processes AND a bigger battery.
The numbers prove you wrong. You can prefer one over the other and to each his own in that regard.

But to say TW is a bloated mess with all the processes running in the background is not painting the whole picture.
It still gets better battery performance when compared to the 6P with a bigger battery.

Then if you want we can compare it to the S7 with a bigger battery running a Snapdragon processor. But the S7 wins that comparison too.....

GSMARENA
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7431&idPhone2=7588&idPhone3=7945

The Note 5 has a 85h endurance rating with a 3000 mAh battery
The 6P has a 74h endurance rating with a 3450 mAh battery
The S7 has a 98 endurance rating with a 3600 mAh battery

So despite what you call TW bloat it seems to be pretty efficient

 

[Surf Donkey]

but despite your rant and dislike for Samsung and TW and the processes you listed running in the background The note 5 and S7 still get better battery life than the 6P running stock without all those processes AND a bigger battery.
The numbers prove you wrong. You can prefer one over the other and to each his own in that regard.

But to say TW is a bloated mess with all the processes running in the background is not painting the whole picture.
It still gets better battery performance when compared to the 6P with a bigger battery.

Then if you want we can compare it to the S7 with a bigger battery running a Snapdragon processor. But the S7 wins that comparison too.....

GSMARENA
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=7431&idPhone2=7588&idPhone3=7945

The Note 5 has a 85h endurance rating with a 3000 mAh battery
The 6P has a 74h endurance rating with a 3450 mAh battery
The S7 has a 98 endurance rating with a 3600 mAh battery

So despite what you call TW bloat it seems to be pretty efficient

I don't get what you mean. They are different processors. That is the battery difference. Note5/S7 lag that is a fact. I last 2 days with my 6P every charge. Battery is fine for my usage. Maybe not others, but my concern is bloat and lag. Both of which the Samsung devices have. Why? All that **** running in the background.

 

[jamezr]

I don't get what you mean. They are different processors. That is the battery difference. Note5/S7 lag that is a fact. I last 2 days with my 6P every charge. Battery is fine for my usage. Maybe not others, but my concern is bloat and lag. Both of which the Samsung devices have. Why? All that **** running in the background.

I don't have lag on my Note 5 or S7. Then even with all the stuff you are complaining about running in the background. Both phones get better battery life than the 6P running stock without all the processes.
I think Tw is a lot better than people realize. It is more efficient than the 6P running stock.

 

[lowendlinux]

I don't have lag on my Note 5 or S7. Then even with all the stuff you are complaining about running in the background. Both phones get better battery life than the 6P running stock without all the processes.
I think Tw is a lot better than people realize. It is more efficient than the 6P running stock.

That could come down to a better/more efficient screen. It could also come from better power management. Processes do wear on the battery how much depends how the kernel manages them

 

[epicrayban]

Samsung needs to work on better relationships with carriers so they can 1) limit carrier bloatware; 2) be allowed to push updates out quicker.

These are the few key areas where Samsung can grow.

Until then, it is what it is. You can easily disable carrier apps with Package Disabler Pro. No root required. It's a no brainer buy and a no brainer process. Anything Verizon/ATT/Tmobile you don't like, disable. And that's it. You never have to do it again. Even if you don't want to purchase that app, you can disable most apps via the default software method. I hope in the future, carrier bloat is minimized as much as possible, but until then, bloat or not, the performance and battery life of the S7 is wicked fast and good.

Software updates are a bigger problem, but I've already argued my position a number of times already regarding that. TouchWiz + Marshmallow is already supremely functional and stable. As long as they push out updates at a reasonable time, I can accept it because I much prefer the hardware/software advantages I get over, say, a Nexus device. There are literally everyday advantages and gains in having an S7 with TouchWiz than a Nexus 6P with stock.

And if someone disagrees, well, the Nexus 6P is an absolutely top notch and lovely device, too, that is bloat-free and gets faster updates. Choice is nice. You pick what is more important to you.

 

[gotluck]

but,.. but I want samsung hardware with nexus software, I really dont get to have my choice

so i bought an iphone

android.. be together, not the same... but mostly skinned phablets

 

[tbayrgs]

but,.. but I want samsung hardware with nexus software, I really dont get to have my choice

so i bought an iphone

android.. be together, not the same... but mostly skinned phablets

Yeah, this ^. Stock Android on industry leading hardware---something we have yet to see. That I would buy in a second.

 

[epicrayban]

And Google could easily make that happen by picking Samsung as either the next or one of the next Nexus OEMs, but that's unlikely to happen for some time.

And with Android N finally bringing some of the better functions and features from TouchWiz, I would have been interested, too.

Alas, still a dream.

 

[lowendlinux]

And Google could easily make that happen by picking Samsung as either the next or one of the next Nexus OEMs, but that's unlikely to happen for some time.

And with Android N finally bringing some of the better functions and features from TouchWiz, I would have been interested, too.

Alas, still a dream.

I read a rumor on one the channels on G+ that HTC signed a three year deal for Nexus'

 

[epicrayban]

I read a rumor on one the channels on G+ that HTC signed a three year deal for Nexus'

Right, I remember. Should be interesting...

 

[FFR]

I probably should have phrased that differently. Sales can definitely be used as an indicator. However it should not be the only one. Nor is it valid in every case.

You can have the best product on the market, but with little to no marketing it will fail horribly. Case in point, Nexus 6p. Considered top 3 best Android smartphone available. So using sales as an indicator, does this mean the Nexus 6p is bad?

Edit: you mention economics and that sales = success when it comes to economics. I 100% agree. But that does not mean sales = best product.
There are instances in other industries where this occurs too.

Then it is not the best product. Simple as that.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Then it is not the best product. Simple as that.

You are going down the "Starbucks is the best coffee" slope there.

 

[FFR]

You are going down the "Starbucks is the best coffee" slope there.

Your comparing smartphones to coffee?
Didn't know i could build my own smartphone at home.

 

[Surf Donkey]

Your comparing smartphones to coffee?
Didn't know i could build my own smartphone at home.

No, comparing marketing of products. The most popular, the most marketed =/= best product. Simple as that.

 

[Blaze4G]

Then it is not the best product. Simple as that.

LOL! Then since Sales = Success = Best Product in your mind. McDonalds is the best burger. Corolla is the best car. Android is the best Mobile OS. Windows is the best PC software. HP Stream 11 is the best laptop. Google Chromecast is the best streaming device.

Want me to continue?

Oh how ignorant you are. Shows how little you know about the topic being discussed.

Please don't let me see you post that MAC OS, iOS, Apple TV or Macbook Pro is best in their category. Because they are not. Because they don't sell the most. You said it, not me.

 

[FFR]

LOL! Then since Sales = Success = Best Product in your mind. McDonalds is the best burger. Corolla is the best car. Android is the best Mobile OS. Windows is the best PC software. HP Stream 11 is the best laptop. Google Chromecast is the best streaming device.

Want me to continue?

Oh how ignorant you are. Shows how little you know about the topic being discussed.

Please don't let me see you post that MAC OS, iOS, Apple TV or Macbook Pro is best in their category. Because they are not. Because they don't sell the most. You said it, not me.

Ignorant?
Your the one comparing hamburgers to the iPhone. You know how ridiculous that is.
When was the last time you spent over £800 on a burger? Or sign a two year contract for a happy meal.

Perhaps next time I go to mcdonalds I should ask them if they can prorate my burger. Smh


Btw if a product is offered for free it isn't counted as a sale.

Please do go on.:

 

[FFR]

No, comparing marketing of products. The most popular, the most marketed =/= best product. Simple as that.

Just to be clear, you believe the best products are the one that are the most marketed?

 

[Blaze4G]

Ignorant?
Your the one comparing hamburgers to the iPhone. You know how ridiculous that is.
When was the last time you spent over £800 on a burger? Or sign a two year contract for a happy meal.

Perhaps next time I go to mcdonalds I should ask them if they can prorate my burger. Smh


Btw if a product is offered for free it isn't counted as a sale.

Please do go on.:

Lol good job focusing on just hamburger. Why no mention of the laptop, tv streaming device or car? Ha-ha.

And so what if I used hamburger. YOU said sales = best product. But now you're backtracking, aww.

Now let me see if you continue to avoid the other examples and focus on the burger once more.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Knickers are surely in a twist here lol.

Sales are not a sure fire way to tell what is the best product of anything. Sometimes the best products sell well however. Good products can attract wide spread appeal and will be attractive for consumers. No point arguing over it though as we all have the ability to vote with our wallets.

 

[nj1266]

For those who asked. Here is my HTC M7 GPe unable to navigate hands free to an address from my contacts. It is on Android version 5.1. I will get you another video from the LG G4 when I have access to it. It belongs to my brother.

 

[tbayrgs]

For those who asked. Here is my HTC M7 GPe unable to navigate hands free to an address from my contacts. It is on Android version 5.1. I will get you another video from the LG G4 when I have access to it. It belongs to my brother.

Seriously, enough already. Navigation on an Android phone by voice using Google Maps doesn't meet your needs, we get it. It more than meets the needs of countless others. What else exactly are you trying to prove at this point?