is the Galaxy S 7 a real threat to iPhone ? how many here would switch ?

[Surf Donkey]

I wish we weren't trained to view metal and glass as "elite" looks. High grade polycarbonate is just so much more practical, and can look nice.

Reminds me of the stainless steel fad in the kitchen. Oooh it is shiny, but it streaks and is impossible to clean, scratches, not magnetized (but fingerprint magnet) etc. Everything you don't want in a kitchen.

 

[gotluck]

Im so glad we went black instead of stainless steel in the kitchen

dont forget it can also dent!

 

[Surf Donkey]

Im so glad we went black instead of stainless steel in the kitchen

dont forget it can also dent!

Yup, we went with slate a few years ago. It was impossible to find though. EVERYTHING was SS. But it has a matte look, can hang the kids art and cleans easily. Now it is becoming all the rage

 

[jamezr]

I wish we weren't trained to view metal and glass as "elite" looks. High grade polycarbonate is just so much more practical, and can look nice.

Reminds me of the stainless steel fad in the kitchen. Oooh it is shiny, but it streaks and is impossible to clean, scratches, not magnetized (but fingerprint magnet) etc. Everything you don't want in a kitchen.

I actually think plastic is more functional tbh...... But then I do love the feel in my hand of the N5, S7, 6s+ and 6P

 

[epicrayban]

I want a see through glass phone. That should be one of the "color" options. Who's gonna do it first?

 

[tbayrgs]

I want a see through glass phone. That should be one of the "color" options. Who's gonna do it first?

IIRC, Spinedoc modded the back panel of his Note 5, removing the standard coating from the back glass and left it clear for short while. Pretty cool.

Found it here.

 

[epicrayban]

IIRC, Spinedoc modded the back panel of his Note 5, removing the standard coating from the back glass and left it clear for short while. Pretty cool.

Found it here.

I remember seeing something about that. Pretty cool indeed.

I'd totally rock a clear glass panel phone.

 

[lowendlinux]

I wish we weren't trained to view metal and glass as "elite" looks. High grade polycarbonate is just so much more practical, and can look nice.

Reminds me of the stainless steel fad in the kitchen. Oooh it is shiny, but it streaks and is impossible to clean, scratches, not magnetized (but fingerprint magnet) etc. Everything you don't want in a kitchen.

Stainless steel is the only thing I've ever had in my kitchen and is the only thing I will have.

But no phones don't need to be metal to be classy

 

[epicrayban]

FORTUNE: http://fortune.com/2016/04/18/trendforce-iphone-shipments/

Apple's iPhone Shipments Fell Off a Cliff in First Quarter

“Sales of iPhone 6s have been lackluster as the model lacks exciting new features,” the company said of Apple’s first quarter. TrendForce added that Apple itself has become “more conservative” with its smartphone inventory in preparation of launching its next handset.



So, I ask again because I'm genuinely not sure, but isn't this the first time this has ever happened to Apple? Do sales always decline this drastically in the early parts of the year for the iPhone? I feel like I've never heard of it before. I know the market is leveling off a bit so there's showdown overall, and I know the iPhone 7 will mostly likely be successful and change things for Apple later this fall but again, is this something that concerns anybody? Especially those that think money is the only indicator?

In any case, I'll take this opportunity to say, once again, what I've been saying for the longest time:

The more important question is... Should it really take these types of figures to tell you Apple might need to start doing things differently? Again, my earlier point in this thread: why is it so contentious to say Apple needs to step up? All that is is an observation made by trying the competition out. Aren't the ones who are actually trying the competition most equipped -- literally! -- to tell us that the competition is moving faster than Apple in certain areas? Do we really have to wait for sales figures to see these things? Don't we want Apple to continue being the leader in the actual technology?

I know it's tempting to see Apple's sales and imagine that nothing needs to be changed. Aren't Samsung number 1 in worldwide smartphone sales (I could be wrong; haven't looked in a while). If they still are, try to imagine if someone kept referencing that as an excuse to every thread where we discuss how Samsung can improve. What does that do for you as someone who is concerned about Samsung's shortcomings? The answer, I wager, is nothing. Similar argument can be made about Android's marketshare, which they are dominating. Google's business model is software, so that dominate marketshare leads to major sales/profits for Google, but does that excuse any of Android's shortcomings? Of course not. Why should it for Apple?

Again, I think Apple is far from doom. This is not an "Apple is doomed" forecast. I say the opposite very often. But it's precisely because I know they can get away with these things that I raise concern about it. And now, finally, the numbers are starting to show cracks. Is this what it takes? Should it be like this before we can start talking without the interruption of Apple's superior sales/profits?

Even if this is typical of Apple's sales/profits around this time of year; even if Apple continues to have record breaking sales without much innovation, my points here still hold -- maybe more so than ever if everything continues the same.

I hope fellow Apple fans are beginning to understand.

 

[I7guy]

FORTUNE: http://fortune.com/2016/04/18/trendforce-iphone-shipments/

Apple's iPhone Shipments Fell Off a Cliff in First Quarter

“Sales of iPhone 6s have been lackluster as the model lacks exciting new features,” the company said of Apple’s first quarter. TrendForce added that Apple itself has become “more conservative” with its smartphone inventory in preparation of launching its next handset.



So, I ask again because I'm genuinely not sure, but isn't this the first time this has ever happened to Apple? Do sales always decline this drastically in the early parts of the year for the iPhone? I feel like I've never heard of it before. I know the market is leveling off a bit so there's showdown overall, and I know the iPhone 7 will mostly likely be successful and change things for Apple later this fall but again, is this something that concerns anybody? Especially those that think money is the only indicator?

In any case, I'll take this opportunity to say, once again, what I've been saying for the longest time:

The more important question is... Should it really take these types of figures to tell you Apple might need to start doing things differently? Again, my earlier point in this thread: why is it so contentious to say Apple needs to step up? All that is is an observation made by trying the competition out. Aren't the ones who are actually trying the competition most equipped -- literally! -- to tell us that the competition is moving faster than Apple in certain areas? Do we really have to wait for sales figures to see these things? Don't we want Apple to continue being the leader in the actual technology?

I know it's tempting to see Apple's sales and imagine that nothing needs to be changed. Aren't Samsung number 1 in worldwide smartphone sales (I could be wrong; haven't looked in a while). If they still are, try to imagine if someone kept referencing that as an excuse to every thread where we discuss how Samsung can improve. What does that do for you as someone who is concerned about Samsung's shortcomings? The answer, I wager, is nothing. Similar argument can be made about Android's marketshare, which they are dominating. Google's business model is software, so that dominate marketshare leads to major sales/profits for Google, but does that excuse any of Android's shortcomings? Of course not. Why should it for Apple?

Again, I think Apple is far from doom. This is not an "Apple is doomed" forecast. I say the opposite very often. But it's precisely because I know they can get away with these things that I raise concern about it. And now, finally, the numbers are starting to show cracks. Is this what it takes? Should it be like this before we can start talking without the interruption of Apple's superior sales/profits?

Even if this is typical of Apple's sales/profits around this time of year; even if Apple continues to have record breaking sales without much innovation, my points here still hold -- maybe more so than ever if everything continues the same.

I hope fellow Apple fans are beginning to understand.

Apple hasn't officially announced it's results and it may be the same or different than this article says. That announcement comes on April 25.

Apple had record breaking quarter after record breaking quarter for how many years? Even 2 quarters with the 6s. And what were your points? I'm not analyzing if this is typical 5 months before a release but even with only 42 million phones sold in one quarter, that's a lot of phones and still a lot of profit.

 

[jamezr]

FORTUNE: http://fortune.com/2016/04/18/trendforce-iphone-shipments/

Apple's iPhone Shipments Fell Off a Cliff in First Quarter

“Sales of iPhone 6s have been lackluster as the model lacks exciting new features,” the company said of Apple’s first quarter. TrendForce added that Apple itself has become “more conservative” with its smartphone inventory in preparation of launching its next handset.



So, I ask again because I'm genuinely not sure, but isn't this the first time this has ever happened to Apple? Do sales always decline this drastically in the early parts of the year for the iPhone? I feel like I've never heard of it before. I know the market is leveling off a bit so there's showdown overall, and I know the iPhone 7 will mostly likely be successful and change things for Apple later this fall but again, is this something that concerns anybody? Especially those that think money is the only indicator?

In any case, I'll take this opportunity to say, once again, what I've been saying for the longest time:

The more important question is... Should it really take these types of figures to tell you Apple might need to start doing things differently? Again, my earlier point in this thread: why is it so contentious to say Apple needs to step up? All that is is an observation made by trying the competition out. Aren't the ones who are actually trying the competition most equipped -- literally! -- to tell us that the competition is moving faster than Apple in certain areas? Do we really have to wait for sales figures to see these things? Don't we want Apple to continue being the leader in the actual technology?

I know it's tempting to see Apple's sales and imagine that nothing needs to be changed. Aren't Samsung number 1 in worldwide smartphone sales (I could be wrong; haven't looked in a while). If they still are, try to imagine if someone kept referencing that as an excuse to every thread where we discuss how Samsung can improve. What does that do for you as someone who is concerned about Samsung's shortcomings? The answer, I wager, is nothing. Similar argument can be made about Android's marketshare, which they are dominating. Google's business model is software, so that dominate marketshare leads to major sales/profits for Google, but does that excuse any of Android's shortcomings? Of course not. Why should it for Apple?

Again, I think Apple is far from doom. This is not an "Apple is doomed" forecast. I say the opposite very often. But it's precisely because I know they can get away with these things that I raise concern about it. And now, finally, the numbers are starting to show cracks. Is this what it takes? Should it be like this before we can start talking without the interruption of Apple's superior sales/profits?

Even if this is typical of Apple's sales/profits around this time of year; even if Apple continues to have record breaking sales without much innovation, my points here still hold -- maybe more so than ever if everything continues the same.

I hope fellow Apple fans are beginning to understand.

To support what you wrote...

Apple had a particularly dismal quarter, with shipments plunging 43.8 percent from the previous quarter. According to TrendForce figures, Apple shipped just 42 million units this quarter compared to 75 million in the fourth quarter 2015.

In the first quarter, Huawei did gain some ground on Apple as the iPhone-maker slipped further behind Samsung in market share. In terms of market share, Samsung led the quarter with 27.80 percent, followed by Apple with 14.40 percent and Huawei with 9.30 percent. Samsung’s market share was up from 22.10 percent and Apple’s was down from 20.90 percent in the first quarter 2015.

http://www.wirelessweek.com/news/20...tphone-shipments-plummet-1q-apple-hardest-hit

 

[epicrayban]

To support what you wrote...





http://www.wirelessweek.com/news/20...tphone-shipments-plummet-1q-apple-hardest-hit

Yeah.

I want to be clear again, because I know this will get lost and/or ignored: I am not saying Apple is doomed or that suddenly they don't do anything right. Obviously that's not the case. Just making more of a point that we shouldn't have to wait for something like this to notice that Apple should compete more. They get away with what they get away with not because they're competing just fine as most like to believe (again, ask yourself who else could get away with what Apple is doing?), but more so on its brand, and that will not last forever.

And equally important: Even if this is just a throw away quarter, or even if Apple's official earnings call proves these articles wrong, or even if Apple bounces back with another record breaking iPhone release without much innovation... we still need to discuss Apple's shortcomings honestly. Maybe even more so.

Considering how important the iPhone is for Apple (isn't it responsible for something like 70% of their profits?), why is it so hard to convince people Apple needs to do more with the iPhone in the face of rising competition in this space?

Who's the real Apple fan?

 

[I7guy]

Yeah.

I want to be clear again, because I know this will get lost and/or ignored: I am not saying Apple is doomed or that suddenly they don't do anything right. Obviously that's not the case. Just making more of a point that we shouldn't have to wait for something like this to notice that Apple should compete more. They get away with what they get away with not because they're competing just fine as most like to believe (again, ask yourself who else could get away with what Apple is doing?), but more so on its brand, and that will not last forever.

And equally important: Even if this is just a throw away quarter, or even if Apple's official earnings call proves these articles wrong, or even if Apple bounces back with another record breaking iPhone release without much innovation... we still need to discuss Apple's shortcomings honestly. Maybe even more so.

Considering how important the iPhone is for Apple (isn't it responsible for something like 70% of their profits?), why is it so hard to convince people Apple needs to do more with the iPhone in the face of rising competition in this space?

Who's the real Apple fan?

A shortcoming to you might not be a shortcoming to me. I might want to evolve iOS in a way that causes you to lose all interest in Apple products.

I don't know what Apple needs to do or not, they already have a three year plan...but making it android like is not a good bet and likely Apple won't.

 

[jamezr]

Yeah.

I want to be clear again, because I know this will get lost and/or ignored: I am not saying Apple is doomed or that suddenly they don't do anything right. Obviously that's not the case. Just making more of a point that we shouldn't have to wait for something like this to notice that Apple should compete more. They get away with what they get away with not because they're competing just fine as most like to believe (again, ask yourself who else could get away with what Apple is doing?), but more so on its brand, and that will not last forever.

And equally important: Even if this is just a throw away quarter, or even if Apple's official earnings call proves these articles wrong, or even if Apple bounces back with another record breaking iPhone release without much innovation... we still need to discuss Apple's shortcomings honestly. Maybe even more so.

Considering how important the iPhone is for Apple (isn't it responsible for something like 70% of their profits?), why is it so hard to convince people Apple needs to do more with the iPhone in the face of rising competition in this space?

Who's the real Apple fan?

Yeah there is no doom and gloom for the most profitable company in the world. But at the same time you can't ignore the actual data that is being reported. Facts are facts and the data doesn't lie no matter what someone's opinions is....

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I wish we weren't trained to view metal and glass as "elite" looks. High grade polycarbonate is just so much more practical, and can look nice.

Reminds me of the stainless steel fad in the kitchen. Oooh it is shiny, but it streaks and is impossible to clean, scratches, not magnetized (but fingerprint magnet) etc. Everything you don't want in a kitchen.

Stainless steel in kitchens is usually 304L or 304H grade and is nearly always lightly grained. You shouldn't get fingerprints and water marks on this in any domestic or commercial kitchen. I think you might be thinking of chromed steel which is effectively mild steel dipped to give a shiny and often rust resistant finish. Much cheaper than stainless and prone to fingerprints.

Aluminium is usually used in phone design as its soft and cheap but can be marketed as expensive to consumers. It's also good for applying good finishes needed in premium products.

FORTUNE: http://fortune.com/2016/04/18/trendforce-iphone-shipments/

Apple's iPhone Shipments Fell Off a Cliff in First Quarter

“Sales of iPhone 6s have been lackluster as the model lacks exciting new features,” the company said of Apple’s first quarter. TrendForce added that Apple itself has become “more conservative” with its smartphone inventory in preparation of launching its next handset.



So, I ask again because I'm genuinely not sure, but isn't this the first time this has ever happened to Apple? Do sales always decline this drastically in the early parts of the year for the iPhone? I feel like I've never heard of it before. I know the market is leveling off a bit so there's showdown overall, and I know the iPhone 7 will mostly likely be successful and change things for Apple later this fall but again, is this something that concerns anybody? Especially those that think money is the only indicator?

In any case, I'll take this opportunity to say, once again, what I've been saying for the longest time:

The more important question is... Should it really take these types of figures to tell you Apple might need to start doing things differently? Again, my earlier point in this thread: why is it so contentious to say Apple needs to step up? All that is is an observation made by trying the competition out. Aren't the ones who are actually trying the competition most equipped -- literally! -- to tell us that the competition is moving faster than Apple in certain areas? Do we really have to wait for sales figures to see these things? Don't we want Apple to continue being the leader in the actual technology?

I know it's tempting to see Apple's sales and imagine that nothing needs to be changed. Aren't Samsung number 1 in worldwide smartphone sales (I could be wrong; haven't looked in a while). If they still are, try to imagine if someone kept referencing that as an excuse to every thread where we discuss how Samsung can improve. What does that do for you as someone who is concerned about Samsung's shortcomings? The answer, I wager, is nothing. Similar argument can be made about Android's marketshare, which they are dominating. Google's business model is software, so that dominate marketshare leads to major sales/profits for Google, but does that excuse any of Android's shortcomings? Of course not. Why should it for Apple?

Again, I think Apple is far from doom. This is not an "Apple is doomed" forecast. I say the opposite very often. But it's precisely because I know they can get away with these things that I raise concern about it. And now, finally, the numbers are starting to show cracks. Is this what it takes? Should it be like this before we can start talking without the interruption of Apple's superior sales/profits?

Even if this is typical of Apple's sales/profits around this time of year; even if Apple continues to have record breaking sales without much innovation, my points here still hold -- maybe more so than ever if everything continues the same.

I hope fellow Apple fans are beginning to understand.

I don't keep up too much with how Apple does year on year but I do know the 'S' model historically sells less than the standard model. The iPhone 6 was such a hit with consumers I am not surprised this has affected the 6S to be honest. It was the first time Apple brought big phones to the market and most people don't replace their phones every 12 months.

 

[epicrayban]

A shortcoming to you might not be a shortcoming to me. I might want to evolve iOS in a way that causes you to lose all interest in Apple products.

I don't know what Apple needs to do or not, they already have a three year plan...but making it android like is not a good bet and likely Apple won't.

I7guy, you really can't notice what your bias does to you, do you?

Making it Android-like is not a good bet? You mean like allowing third party keyboards? A pull down notification shade? Widgets? Control Center for quick toggles? There are more examples. I don't hear you complaining about any of those things. Where is your concern for iOS turning into Android when Apple introduces features new to iOS but that have been on Android all these years?

Are Android users worried that Android will "become iOS" if Android devices suddenly start getting faster updates, or less carrier bloat, or if the software begins to adopt 3D Touch, or any other advantage or feature that Apple has that Android users or opponents of Android in general complain about? No, of course not. Any honest Android user would be happy to see such improvements.

And it should be the same for any honest iOS fan.

EDIT: I'm curious what you think of my iOS/iPhone wishlist: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...re-would-switch.1960660/page-35#post-22800876

 

[Fernandez21]

I7guy, you really can't notice what your bias does to you, do you?

Making it Android is not a good bet? You mean like allowing third party keyboards? A pull down notification shade? Widgets? Control Center for quick toggles? There are more examples. I don't hear you complaining about any of those things. Where is your concern for iOS turning into Android when Apple introduces features new to iOS but that have been on Android all these years?

Are Android users worried that Android will "become iOS" if Android devices suddenly start getting faster updates, or less carrier bloat, or if the software begins to adopt 3D Touch, or any other advantage or feature that Apple has that Android users or opponents of Android in general complain about? No, of course not. Any honest Android user would be happy to see such improvements.

And it should be the same for any honest iOS fan.

The only thing I can think is that they think there is only one way to implement these features. But there aren't, and I'm sure when apple does them they will put their own spin on them which may or may not be better, but will appease users.

Android N is picking a lot of features from touchwiz, are nexus users concerned of android becoming touchwiz?

 

[epicrayban]

The only thing I can think is that they think there is only one way to implement these features. But there aren't, and I'm sure when apple does them they will put their own spin on them which may or may not be better, but will appease users.

Android N is picking a lot of features from touchwiz, are nexus users concerned of android becoming touchwiz?

Precisely on point.

The only explanation I can think of for the types of comments we see from people like I7guy or FFR is their own bias really blinding them from an honest discussion. And the worse part is, they think they're the real Apple fans.

The funny thing is, it's a tired argument too. This is a post from the past:

The only problem with something like this ever happening is that two competing ideologies would have to suddenly merge.

At that point, what made each unique and great would cease to exist and you'd be left with nothing special.

I think this "problem" of yours will never exist. It's not like iOS will ever be exactly like Android nor vice versa. Adopting features from each other that help make the experience better for both OS-es doesn't mean they'll both suddenly become the same exact thing. They would still be unique in their own ways of implementing said features.

To dissuade these desired features that users of iOS devices want sounds like just another excuse from you to apologize for Apple's lack of and/or refusal to add said features.

Let's take Control Center, for example. If Apple gave the users the power to customize what toggles they want there (something often requested by myself and others) to add/remove even re-order the Control Center, how does that suddenly make iOS' Control Center any less unique? It still looks, feels (pulling up instead of pulling down in Android) differently. There is no "problem" here that I can see.

iOS has added plenty of features that Android created and/or made popular. Likewise, Android has taken plenty of features iOS created and/or made popular. Yet no "problem" has come of this of people fearing iOS and Android are becoming the same or losing their own unique-ness. Quite the contrary. People have warmed to adding similar features to both OS-es. Android lately adding lock-screen notifications? It's great. Is it unique? It sure is. You can expand the notification, the cards look way different than the way iOS does it. Still unique.

I said this before, how much more satisfied might users be if Apple allowed even more freedom? Even just a little bit. How might users benefit from allowing to set default mail app, or default browser, or default map/navigation app? People are already happy about 3rd party keyboards. Why would there be any fear of losing unique-ness to allow more?

There would be none.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I agree with much of the above, but are people on iOS really that happy with third party keyboards? They are all crap apart from the stock one IMO. I don't know anybody who has used them long term. I was quite excited to use Swiftkey and Swype, yet have tested both over a few weeks I found them to be appalling. Choice is good as long the choice is good, if you catch my drift lol.

 

[epicrayban]

I agree with much of the above, but are people on iOS really that happy with third party keyboards? They are all crap apart from the stock one IMO. I don't know anybody who has used them long term. I was quite excited to use Swiftkey and Swype, yet have tested both over a few weeks I found them to be appalling. Choice is good as long the choice is good, if you catch my drift lol.

I wonder how many downloads Swiftkey and Swype has gotten on iOS since Apple has allowed third party keyboard defaults. Even if it's just a small minority of iPhone users, that's still likely a large enough number to make this feature worthwhile.

Plus, keep in mind optional features are exactly that, optional. If stock is indeed better for you or any other iOS user, they literally don't have to do anything. Just use it as it is out of the box.

Optional features do zero harm to anybody who prefers the stock method. It only stands to help those who don't.

PS. I agree with you. Swiftkey and Swype aren't as good on iOS for some reason. Still, I'm using Swype on my 5S for gesture typing.

 

[I7guy]

Precisely on point.

The only explanation I can think of for the types of comments we see from people like I7guy or FFR is their own bias really blinding them from an honest discussion. And the worse part is, they think they're the real Apple fans.

The funny thing is, it's a tired argument too. This is a post from the past:





I think this "problem" of yours will never exist. It's not like iOS will ever be exactly like Android nor vice versa. Adopting features from each other that help make the experience better for both OS-es doesn't mean they'll both suddenly become the same exact thing. They would still be unique in their own ways of implementing said features.

To dissuade these desired features that users of iOS devices want sounds like just another excuse from you to apologize for Apple's lack of and/or refusal to add said features.

Let's take Control Center, for example. If Apple gave the users the power to customize what toggles they want there (something often requested by myself and others) to add/remove even re-order the Control Center, how does that suddenly make iOS' Control Center any less unique? It still looks, feels (pulling up instead of pulling down in Android) differently. There is no "problem" here that I can see.

iOS has added plenty of features that Android created and/or made popular. Likewise, Android has taken plenty of features iOS created and/or made popular. Yet no "problem" has come of this of people fearing iOS and Android are becoming the same or losing their own unique-ness. Quite the contrary. People have warmed to adding similar features to both OS-es. Android lately adding lock-screen notifications? It's great. Is it unique? It sure is. You can expand the notification, the cards look way different than the way iOS does it. Still unique.

I said this before, how much more satisfied might users be if Apple allowed even more freedom? Even just a little bit. How might users benefit from allowing to set default mail app, or default browser, or default map/navigation app? People are already happy about 3rd party keyboards. Why would there be any fear of losing unique-ness to allow more?

There would be none.

You are right, there is bias.

It's tough to see past one's own bias however, in the interest of attempting to show nuetrality bias often kicks in and is readily apparent.

I am sure apple with update IOS with future customizations. TC already said they are working on ways on allows apps to be deleted, so more is coming.

 

[epicrayban]

You are right, there is bias.

It's tough to see past one's own bias however, in the interest of attempting to show nuetrality bias often kicks in and is readily apparent.

You referring to yourself here?

Also, no answers to my questions below?

I7guy, you really can't notice what your bias does to you, do you?

Making it Android-like is not a good bet? You mean like allowing third party keyboards? A pull down notification shade? Widgets? Control Center for quick toggles? There are more examples. I don't hear you complaining about any of those things. Where is your concern for iOS turning into Android when Apple introduces features new to iOS but that have been on Android all these years?

Are Android users worried that Android will "become iOS" if Android devices suddenly start getting faster updates, or less carrier bloat, or if the software begins to adopt 3D Touch, or any other advantage or feature that Apple has that Android users or opponents of Android in general complain about? No, of course not. Any honest Android user would be happy to see such improvements.

And it should be the same for any honest iOS fan.

EDIT: I'm curious what you think of my iOS/iPhone wishlist: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...re-would-switch.1960660/page-35#post-22800876

 

[tbayrgs]

I agree with you. Swiftkey and Swype aren't as good on iOS for some reason. Still, I'm using Swype on my 5S for gesture typing.

SwiftKey seems to have improved significantly since its really days on iOS, at least from my own experience. I still encounter the occasional hiccup but for the most part it's pretty smooth.

I split time between it and the stock keyboard as I like using gesture typing when using it one handed but still prefer the stock keyboard for four thumb typing and love using 3D Touch to move the cursor--wish this could be integrated into this party keyboards.

 

[I7guy]

You referring to yourself here?

Also, no answers to my questions below?

Well what do you think? Are you going to give a rational response or are you just trolling? Okay, I'll answer your questions, but in general all software can be improved because software engineering is always evolving.

A more consistent back navigation system. What apple has done seems to work well for me.

More organized and consistent Settings menu. I seem to be able to get to every setting that matters.

Less obnoxious security measures. This can be debated, although on the subject of limits for downloads I can see why apple restricted the cellular download limit; probably to avoid lawsuits.

A bit more customization. "For example, why can't I swap out and re-order what toggles I want in Control Center? What if I never use Airplay? What a waste of space then. Ditto 3D Touch. Why can't there be a setting that shows me a list of what 3D Touch commands I can set for a particular app? What if I don't ever take selfies with my camera; can't the 3D Touch shortcut for the camera app be changed to something I would prefer to launch directly into instead?" Sure, why not.

Improve the keyboard. The keyboard is fairly good and works for me.

Allow us to set default apps overall. Again, sure why not.


What of these software features are going to "alienate" current iPhone users? If they don't want to set other third party defaults, what's preventing them from using their iPhones just "stock" straight out of the box? How exactly does adding these software features suddenly mean the old ways are gone? Please elaborate. Seems good in theory, there may be a specific reason why apple at this time doesn't want to do it.

Would love to see a better design in the iPhone 7 I like the current design and the antenna lines are kind of cool, I can't say I don't like the design of the iphone.

Quick charge & Wireless charging The already have quick charge and I want contact less wireless charging. Now that is useful.

Waterproofing iphone 6s is fairly water resistant, but either way I don't care. Useful? sure.

 

[Fernandez21]

Well what do you think? Are you going to give a rational response or are you just trolling? Okay, I'll answer your questions, but in general all software can be improved because software engineering is always evolving.

A more consistent back navigation system. What apple has done seems to work well for me.

More organized and consistent Settings menu. I seem to be able to get to every setting that matters.

Less obnoxious security measures. This can be debated, although on the subject of limits for downloads I can see why apple restricted the cellular download limit; probably to avoid lawsuits.

A bit more customization. "For example, why can't I swap out and re-order what toggles I want in Control Center? What if I never use Airplay? What a waste of space then. Ditto 3D Touch. Why can't there be a setting that shows me a list of what 3D Touch commands I can set for a particular app? What if I don't ever take selfies with my camera; can't the 3D Touch shortcut for the camera app be changed to something I would prefer to launch directly into instead?" Sure, why not.

Improve the keyboard. The keyboard is fairly good and works for me.

Allow us to set default apps overall. Again, sure why not.


What of these software features are going to "alienate" current iPhone users? If they don't want to set other third party defaults, what's preventing them from using their iPhones just "stock" straight out of the box? How exactly does adding these software features suddenly mean the old ways are gone? Please elaborate. Seems good in theory, there may be a specific reason why apple at this time doesn't want to do it.

Would love to see a better design in the iPhone 7 I like the current design and the antenna lines are kind of cool, I can't say I don't like the design of the iphone.

Quick charge & Wireless charging The already have quick charge and I want contact less wireless charging. Now that is useful.

Waterproofing iphone 6s is fairly water resistant, but either way I don't care. Useful? sure.

Here's a question, other than the usual improvements (speed, camera, ect.) what improvements would you like to see in the next iphone?