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I'm seeing so many disappointed people on here, I'm wondering if the iPad should have never been released. Maybe the netbook people are right and Apple should have just made the iPad a netbook with a lite version of Snow Leopard. As a person still relatively new to Apple products, I'm beginning to think the release of iPad was a big mistake. :(

Yeah, it's a big mistake, like 1 Million sold and counting, 10 Million more ordered into production, it's just the next biggest thing in computing:eek:
Move along, Troll elsewhere:mad:
 
It's not a mistake. It is a marketing experiment. Seems to be working at least for now. Companies dream of taking existing tech, cheapening it in some way, and convincing customers it is brand new and worth twice what they started with. If HP or Dell or Asus had done the same the tech world would have laughed them off the planet and sales would have been dismal. Apple knows how to make a money machine, and the iPad is it.
 
It's not a mistake. It is a marketing experiment. Seems to be working at least for now. Companies dream of taking existing tech, cheapening it in some way, and convincing customers it is brand new and worth twice what they started with. If HP or Dell or Asus had done the same the tech world would have laughed them off the planet and sales would have been dismal. Apple knows how to make a money machine, and the iPad is it.

Or, maybe it is just a good and useful product that people want to buy.
 
Thank you for posting this. I guess I expected to see tons of positive posts and that's not what's happening...which means, that's what the haters see and base their comments on.

Netbook fans are always pointing out these called iPad flaws to me, like, 'why have an iPad AND a keyboard when you can carry an all in one device like a netbook?' or 'there are issues with the WiFi...a netbook doesn't have that problem' or '95% of the Internet is Flash so the iPad is a flop...plus no one can play World of Warcraft' or 'the iPad isn't even a computer, it is just an overpriced media device'.

And yes, these are actual comments I have been told by people.

Umm, comments that you're being told by people who DON'T HAVE A FREAKIN' IPAD!!!

Sorry but this is just dumb, of course fanboys are going to knock competing products, that's what they do in life while they're using oxygen that could be put to more productive use. It's the same tired claptrap that's been spouted off since the iPad came out and shows a total and complete lack of any analytical ability whatsoever. It's the same sort of junk that people spout when claiming Apple got it wrong and should have launched OS X on the iPad without pausing to think of the practicalities and user experience such a combo would result in.

Honestly, considering this is a brand new product sector I've seen less complaints about the device from real actual users than I can remember for any comparable launch from any manufacturer. Certainly if you compare and contrast to, say, the original iPhone launch the iPad is way up there. Sales seem pretty good, it's going worldwide shortly and we all know there's new functionality coming in the later half of the year with OS 4.

Put it this way... last year the worldwide tablet PC market was somewhere in the region of 4 million units (roughly... it's hard to find good figures but 4 million units is the high end, 1 million is the low). Apple have sold at least 500,000 units at this point, more than likely closer to a million. While it's always hard to predict long term sales it seems likely that they'll get a big bump when they start selling internationally, another at the launch of OS 4 and yet another around Christmas, especially considering this is a device that'll thrive on word-of-mouth and hands-on experience. That'd suggest that sales of at least 4 million units isn't out of the question. If they make that, and as I said it looks likely, they would have DOUBLED the worldwide market for Tablet PC sales at their first attempt.

I'd say they're doing pretty well...
 
Or, maybe it is just a good and useful product that people want to buy.
Exactly! Apple's business plan relies on you believing that. I call it Apple Vision. The only thing that can clear Apple-Vision is a new model that is better and cheaper than the one you bought. Just wait. Apple practices that business strategy too.
 
Regardless of whether or not it's a mistake (and I'd say it's not), there are who-knows-how-many iPad owners that are extremely happy they have one. I admit to thinking the iPad was a silly idea when it was first announced ("just a big iPhone"), but I am a thrilled with it so far. If it gets discontinued, I'm still going to use and love this thing and I'm sure I'm not alone with that.
 
I'm beginning to think the release of iPad was a big mistake. :(

Well if you have to ask that question then the iPad probarly is not something that's for you.

Only you would know what works for you and what doesn't. But if your a mobile person and want a great device that compliments your iphone and Macbook pro (if you have one). The ipad would be ideal for you.

There are times like maybe when waiting in line at the DMV, Doctors Office where you can read magazines or if you take a train to work you can always have the news with you, Have your favorite novel , Watch movies on it, etc .

But in the end i hope you really do find a use for the ipad but if not there are plenty of other devices out there that would work for you. :cool:
 
Yeah. They've sold a million in a couple of weeks. Most of the people on here seem to be very happy. I love mine. It's not a mistake. It's a game-changer. I just read that Microsoft and HP have both bailed on their slates. People were calling them iPad killers just last week, and they never even launched. If I could make a mistake like this, I'd be the happiest guy in the world.
 
In it's current form maybe.
If it can ever be a replacement for having a single laptop or desktop in the house then it can be great.

It's a great accompaniment for a desktop in the house.

I had high hopes for the iPad, but I needed a new computer than would word process, run photoshop and play tunes and sync my iphone.
 
In it's current form maybe.
If it can ever be a replacement for having a single laptop or desktop in the house then it can be great.

It's a great accompaniment for a desktop in the house.

I had high hopes for the iPad, but I needed a new computer than would word process, run photoshop and play tunes and sync my iphone.

I had high hopes for the new Porsche, but I need something with a flatbed that can haul 10,000 pounds.

I had high hopes for a new type of watch, but I need something that stands in the hallway and chimes on the hour.

I could go on. The iPad was never conceived as the answer to the needs you listed.

For 4D: if HP had released an equivalent device (same battery life - same easy 3g pricing model - same fast easy touch UI), I'd have bought one. The vaporware device they appeared to be making wasn't as appealing for concrete reasons, like 5 hours instead of 9, no bundled 3g no-contract system, and a UI built on top of a desktop OS instead of built from the ground up for touch. It also had advantages, but the disadvantages were showstoppers for me. I can't speak for others. But I'd generally say, if you put yourself in situations in which you're right and everyone else is wrong, you should periodically consider whether that's accurate or whether other people simply have different opinions than you do.
 
I'm sitting in my local mall watching people pass by while I drink my afternoon coffee. I could have always done this with my iPhone however the fact is it is 100x more enjoyable on this device. Also the ability to stream netflix really grabbed and pulled me in. I love instant movies and tv shows to a easy portable device. My poor iPhone Is jelous due to the fact he's got a lot less use since FedEx stopped at my door yesterday.
 
LadyHoneyBabe--

You mention that you are new to the Mac "ecosystem" -- to be honest it takes awhile to get used to how things work on this "side".

First of all you have to get used to taking a fair amount of crap from non-Apple users no matter what. That's just the way it goes. In time you will give it right back to them. All I can say is I had to use my lab's netbook today (a nice little Acer) and after about 5 minutes of using the web I wanted to pitch it across the room, 2 usb ports and a camera notwithstanding. I still use Windows all the time, but this netbook infatuation I really don't understand. So, personally, I am thrilled that Apple didn't release a slow, crippled MacBook. They gave us something else, that we get to customize via software to fit our own needs.

Second, Apple makes a BIG DEAL about product releases (in case you hadn't noticed ;)). And for whatever reason, many folks who use Macs seem take it personally when Steve's next big thing doesn't ring their bell. Trust me, I bought one of the first MacBook Airs (been using it for 2 years daily and travel everywhere with it-- typing on it right now). Holy crap, you should have heard the hate (from the Mac side) for this product. It was mind-boggling. As it turns out, it fit my needs as a frequent traveler *perfectly* -- a niche perhaps, but it is one of my favorite Mac purchases ever and the folks who have them love them) If they make a 4GB version I will be first in line.

So, the bottom line is..... Don't listen to anyone but yourself. There are tons of folks out there that are more than willing to tell you wasted your money. Ulterior motives abound.

Enjoy your iPad.

JT
 
There are many tech hardware companies out there who would like to have sold more than a million of their newest item! This is hardly a mistake!

This thread might be a mistake though..?
 
Exactly! Apple's business plan relies on you believing that. I call it Apple Vision. The only thing that can clear Apple-Vision is a new model that is better and cheaper than the one you bought. Just wait. Apple practices that business strategy too.

And yet, somehow you are one of the enlightened ones that can see through the smokescreen that blinds the rest of us to the truth. :rolleyes:
 
A mistake? I don't think so. At least not in my eyes! I adopted and brought home a WiFi iPad on April 3rd and immediately was enchanted. I played with her in bed, on the computer workstation, on the kitchen counter, on the dining table, on my elevated legs as I leaned back comfortably in a chair, on the floor with her on my legs; she was happy to perch on my lap anywhere I happened to be, and she went with me everywhere. My more powerful "real" computers suddenly found themselves idle for a large part of many days.......

There were a few occasions when I needed (or at least badly wanted) to get online somewhere and found that, oops, no WiFi available. That particular issue was settled yesterday when I brought a 3G iPad home to join our little family...... What was especially fun about the waiting-in-line experience (along with chatting with some interesting people!) was being able to sit there or stand there with my WiFi iPad and type emails, keep tabs on MR and respond to posts here. It also was neat to be able to show off some of my photos and chat about that, too, in line.

Today I attended a luncheon for an organization to which I belong and of course my iPad went with me. People were wowed by the technology and what this thing can do. One guy got a real kick out of being able to read the Washington Post while we were sitting at the lunch table. His wife is blind, and I mentioned how the iPad is also ready to set up for accessibility, showing him the options under that category in the settings area.

At the luncheon, I also was responsible for shooting some grip-and-grin images, plus capturing the overall ambience of the occasion, so I had my camera bag with appropriate camera body, lenses and flash; no problem tucking the iPad in, too, in the area normally reserved for a laptop.

Did Apple make a mistake with the iPad? I sure don't think so!
 
there is nothing the ipad can do in terms of productivity that this cant

iPadvsEeePC.jpg


however, this netbook will destroy the ipad in terms of functionality, performance, and scalability

you can even run windows 7 ultimate x64 at decent speeds on the new N450 Atom CPU while still getting 10+ hours battery

personally Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the way to go,i highly doubt the ipad will be able to beat a 200MB/s read speed SSD for any kind of test including bootup.

on my 3 year old laptop that same SSD made my laptop go from 1.6 minute boot up to 34 seconds (thats power off to inside outlook + open new email msg)
 
I was regretting it a bit this morning, then I finally realized I was just feeling down in general because I haven't slept well this week. 12 hours of sleep later I am giddy about the iPad again. :D
 
there is nothing the ipad can do in terms of productivity that this cant

however, this netbook will destroy the ipad in terms of functionality, performance, and scalability

you can even run windows 7 ultimate x64 at decent speeds on the new N450 Atom CPU while still getting 10+ hours battery

personally Ubuntu Netbook Remix is the way to go,i highly doubt the ipad will be able to beat a 200MB/s read speed SSD for any kind of test including bootup.

on my 3 year old laptop that same SSD made my laptop go from 1.6 minute boot up to 34 seconds (thats power off to inside outlook + open new email msg)

And this is what I hear 20+ times a day.^^


Plus, reading how people were disappointed with their iPad made me wonder if it was a mistake and I've been corrected...it's not a mistake. People just don't understand it. And with Steve Jobs mentioning netbooks in his keynote, it probably added gasoline to the fire. :)

After reading several viewpoints in here, it's nice to know there are more people who are happy with their iPads than not. I guess that means the iPad isn't going away anytime soon. Especially since, as someone mentioned, the Courier & Slate are canceled, for now.

BTW: I still can't figure out why the iPad needs USB ports. :confused:
 
The only "mistakes" are:

1) Ugly black bar on the 3g version (takes away from the sleekness of the device IMO).

2) Data caps that are imposed on even the "unlimited" data plan by ATT.

Otherwise this device is "almost" perfect for its intended uses (web browsing, email, media consumption).
 
If you're happy with your iPad what do you care if other people think it's any good?
 
And this is what I hear 20+ times a day.^^


Plus, reading how people were disappointed with their iPad made me wonder if it was a mistake and I've been corrected...it's not a mistake. People just don't understand it. And with Steve Jobs mentioning netbooks in his keynote, it probably added gasoline to the fire. :)

After reading several viewpoints in here, it's nice to know there are more people who are happy with their iPads than not. I guess that means the iPad isn't going away anytime soon. Especially since, as someone mentioned, the Courier & Slate are canceled, for now.

BTW: I still can't figure out why the iPad needs USB ports. :confused:

Basically it boils down to this.

The iPad is great at what it does. I can pretty much do everything on it most 'non techie' people do everyday on their net book/laptop or desktop.

Its fairly safe to say that the majority of pc users are not gaming on sli setups. Are not debugging kernels and programming algorithms. Most are not video editing. Most are not running Photoshop or designing layouts in indesign.

Yes there are plenty of folks who do so and they have a work tool. This is not what the iPad is aimed at.

Most folks are watching movies, flicking through YouTube. Keeping connected with Facebook. Checking emails. Buying gifts and stuff online, buying holiday/plane tickets etc, Listening to their music, Writing the odd document or two, messing about with v.basic photo editing or drawing packages.

The iPad can do all that. It is for those things the iPad is targeting.

There is a big disconnect between specs of a machine and what people actually use the machine to do. I've seen many many folks walk into a store, be advised they should buy this machine as it has dual processor, DVD burners, lots of ram, 600 USB ports etc, oh and of course 'free virus protection for 6/12 months)...

However.. When you look at what most of these users end up actually doing with the hardware once purchased it often falls back into the same category as I highlighted above. So often the hardware specs are irrelevant because they are not using the full hardware regardless. But they were told this is standard spec requirements, this is what is needed in a computer in this day and age. These are the important things that we all should use to purchase a good computer or a bad computer. 6 USB ports has to be better than 2 doesn't it. Even if you never use them??

People are told to think inside the box. The iPad is outside the box.

I imported an iPad and nearly everyone I know who has seen it have realized it pretty much would do them. Yes there are sacrifices, having to buy dongles to plug their camera in etc.. But these are small sufferings compared to benefits.

When they realize they can finally surf safely and quickly. Not worry about boot up times and start up applications that are now slowing the computer to a crawl. Erroneous software and applications they don't need that insist on installing themselves. When they see they can check their emails without worrying an attachment is a virus, that they do not have to worry about installing drivers, and actually not worry about installing full stop or more importantly uninstalling procedures. How quickly it responds in a logical 'what you see is what you get' manner. How they don't have to be spending annual subscriptions on virus protection with the device and it wont slow down the computer thats super specced to a crawl.

Yes a netbook can be cheaper and 'technically better specced' but user end user experience and specs are not mutually inclusive.

After the ghz myth was bust open, the next big step is the specification myth. People will eventually realise that there is far more to actual usability than a spec sheet and a myriad of USB ports.

Yes the iPad won't be for everyone, yes there will be things a computer will be a better choice for. However I imagine there are more folks out there that the iPad would actually fit with than they realise themselves.

HP have realized they now have to think out the box. That specs belie user experience. The iPad if anything has highlighted tis disconnect. Hence HP taking the slight back to the drawing board. Hence the sudden investment of companies looking at Android.

The amount of folks I also know that are attending computer classes which boils down to simply learning 'the operating system' and basics like surfing and email, but are bogged down learning about installing, control panels, virus updates etc.. rather than using the software to email, to read, to listen to music, to simply keep in touch. These folks are not learning to be Photoshop experts, they want to feel confident to do basic most useful things, and the iPad could revolutionise that area. Because it does away with the nonsense, and let's people get on with the things they want to do very easily and in a logical common sense manner. With the iPad and the iPhone OS they learn how to do things in a simple painless way that does away with decades of 'windows thinking'....


Those that rile on the iPad the most, tend to be those that have never actually used one. It's quite silly really. Would you ask someone to review a book, movie or song without reading, seeing or listening to it?
 
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