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Look at how unusable the Settings app is on macOS and iOS today - they ruined the Settings app.

The settings app in macOS actually makes a lot more sense than the old system preferences

It is a list of categories organized in a reasonably logical order

And it is also entirely searchable

So if you aren’t sure where something is just type it in

system preferences, on the other hand, was a grid of randomly arranged often esoteric icons and you had to either already know where something was or click around the panes until you stumbled across it

If you prefered it, it can only have been due to muscle memory and rote learning.

The iOS version is also quite improved if for no other reason than there is now a category for apps that then lists them alphabetically as opposed to having them all on the main page in apparantly random order
 
The fact that Apple's platforms are still usable today is a testament to how far ahead they were 10 years ago.

Look at how unusable the Settings app is on macOS and iOS today - they ruined the Settings app.
Well comma actually it was called the System Preferences app and they never ruined it. lol
 
Look at what Apple did to Dark Sky. That one instance shows how miserable Apple's software team is.

Funny you bring this one up

I can’t believe how bad the forecasts are…
Like not a little bit off …but completely off at times

It’s totally useless to me beyond just giving me the outside temperature
 
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The settings app in macOS actually makes a lot more sense than the old system preferences

It is a list of categories organized in a reasonably logical order

And it is also entirely searchable

So if you aren’t sure where something is just type it in

system preferences, on the other hand, was a grid of randomly arranged often esoteric icons and you had to either already know where something was or click around the panes until you stumbled across it

If you prefered it, it can only have been due to muscle memory and rote learning.

The iOS version is also quite improved if for no other reason than there is now a category for apps that then lists them alphabetically as opposed to having them all on the main page in apparantly random order

System Preferences was entirely searchable as well, but the icons were easy to find. In Settings on the Mac now, how do you set a default web browser? How does it make sense that it's under Desktop and Dock? Settings are shoved wherever they had room in the UI. Why does Wallpaper have it's own top-level item (not under desktop and dock), but you have to drill down into General for software updates? The only way it is even halfway usable is because of the search box.

Search for something on your iPhone's settings app and you will be given a long list of entirely unrelated settings to the one you need. Today, it's chock full of AI (sorry, Apple Intelligence) features that nobody needs or asked for - and don't do anything useful.
 
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Funny, you bring this one up

I can’t believe how bad the forecasts are…
Like not a little bit off …but completely off at times

It’s totally useless to me Beyond just giving me the outside temperature

Quality of forecasts only has to do with Apple insomuch as they decide what forecasts to use

It’s not like they have their own inferior weather models
 
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Also, Tim Cook fails to take chances on products that might be failures? Excuse me? The 12 inch MacBook?

A screen a whole inch smaller than the 13” MBA? Revolutionary!

The butterfly keyboard MacBook Pro?

That was just poor design, with reliability issues that weren’t caught at the time.

The HomePod?

Apple’s Echo, a few years after it became a hugely popular category?

The iPhone Mini?

A slightly-smaller iPhone, sharing most of its parts, that has a small but dedicated following.

The 2013 MacPro?

A failed attempt to get rid of expandable Mac towers.

The M1 chip?

A beefed up version of the well-proven A-series chips. Transitioning the Mac to Apple Silicon was a bold move, though given the rate the A-series was gaining on x86, it was a logical progression. The cost savings, including merging macOS with iOS, had obvious appeal too.

The Apple Vision Pro?

A massive L. Worse, perfecting the VR headset after it had largely died as a category took Apple’s eye off the AI ball. This left them badly behind in something that does have the potential to be revolutionary (though the jury’s still out).

These were all massive risks, plenty of them were complete failures.

The risks varied in size, but I agree with the second part.

But they led to significantly better products.

The design decisions of the 2016-2019 MBP led to them being completely reversed, with 2020-on machines being thicker, with scissor keys, SD card slots, MagSafe, HDMI outputs etc? The HomePod led to a smaller, cheaper Mini version, more in line with competitors? The iPhone mini led to its (probable) cancellation? The 2013 Mac Pro led to a return to big aluminium towers? The Vision Pro led to an (indefinite) pause in its production?
 
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perfecting the VR headset after it had largely died as a category

My wife like to go thrift store shopping

If I go with her I spend the time rummaging around all the old electronic “junk”

There are always multiple vr headsets
 
Rosetta ( 1 for those that are counting, 2 is in your Apple Silicon machine )

Rosetta 1 was PPC > Intel. The 68K > PPC emulator was simply known as the “Mac 68k emulator”. I believe PPC was designed with some 68K backwards compatibility built into it.
 
1. iTunes lossless purchases - i thunk people are falling out of love with streaming and they could be a big player if they switched it on first to lossless…. My friends 14 year old asked for a record player! Which is a good sign for ownership

Stuff like vinyl and MP3 ownership will always have niche appeal, if only for the novelty value, but 95% of the world will settle for streaming.

In contrast, someone like Steve Jobs sounds like he would be a disaster in today's volatile landscape. Can you imagine the fallout if he were to tell the PM of some country to go F himself over some disparaging remark towards Apple, and he sure as heck wouldn't capitulate one bit with regard to the EU and the DMA.

Steve would not tell the EU to go F themselves. He wasn’t an idiot. He’d ultimately make the same business decision as any other CEO, and just comply with the law (as Apple do in China, Saudi etc.). The EU market is way too lucrative to ignore. They’d just maliciously comply, as they do now.
 
Thats clearly not true though. Since Ive left there has been something of a design renaissance at Apple with form and function getting an overhaul. This wasn't his fault, just without Steve there was nobody to taper his excesses.
Sorry Cook doesn’t have any vision - he relies on creative people and only looks at the bottom line to allow things through.

haven't jacked their prices up much and in 2024 have been uncharacteristically generous on the base models. The M4 Mac Mini and the iPhone 16 are the two best base products Apple have ever made.
The only reason Apple is offering a bit more (That arguable) is because their sales have started to dip -
 
I somewhat agree with the OP, but mostly disagree.

I bought the original white MacBook days after Steve Jobs announced it. I had a Dell ultrabook thing (remember that POS?!) and the jump to Mac for the first time as a then-16-year-old really was something. The white plastic remote that came to activate the media centre was incredible and showing my PC die-hard friends that my MacBook was more capable than anything their machine could do gave me bragging rights.

Fast forward nearly twenty years and I’ve owned about 7 or 8 other Macs and I’ve just bought the new M4 Mac Mini. No, the magic is not over. But as an adult my perspective is that these tools are fundamentally powerful and I work ‘through’ the device - it doesn’t hinder me in any way to get my work done, enjoy my leisure viewing, or being creative with recording instruments/being creative. That’s the ULTIMATE evolution of technology; you don’t necessarily realise you’re using a product to get the job done.
 
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The OP in this thread made me laugh because it was all about the keynotes and turtlenecks and magic and stuff like that is the cringiest part of Apple to me. A crowd clapping wildly over a usb-c port acting like Tim Cook cured cancer is weird and I always hated it and if that stuff is wearing off, its a good thing.

I want to buy a phone, not join a cult.

But then this thread quickly devolved into everyone's personal grievances and....it's kind of hilarious watching random people tell one of the biggest companies in the world how they should run their business better.

My 2 cents: As far as phones and laptops go, Apple has the best OS and best ecosystem around imo and its obvious many of us are willing to pay a premium for a superior ecosystem that works seamlessly, considering they have a fraction of the total marketshare.

I have grievances and I wish stuff was cheaper, but everything works 99% of the time and it's more user friendly than any other platform and claiming Apple is on the decline because of your grievances when revenue almost always goes up is, well, probably not reality.
 
Now for my biggest grievance 😂😂

Apple Intelligence is mostly going to suck.

They introduced Siri in 2011 and I still scream at her for completely screwing up a basic ask for directions a lot. 13 years later she can only find the nearest of any national chain. I will tell her to tell me to give me directions to the Best Buy in (suburb of Phoenix) and she will say "One place I see is Best Buy in (closest location). It has 3 stars and is six point three miles..."

"No Best Buy in....."

"One place I see is Best Buy in (closest location)..."

Apple is just not good at this and I wish they would let us plug into Google or Alexa instead.
 
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Why does Wallpaper have it's own top-level item (not under desktop and dock), but you have to drill down into General for software updates?

Maybe because people access wallpaper more than software update?

If there is an update available there will be a notification circle on general
 
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Funny, you bring this one up

I can’t believe how bad the forecasts are…
Like not a little bit off …but completely off at times

It’s totally useless to me Beyond just giving me the outside temperature

Apple's treatment of Dark Sky is criminal. It proves once and for all that Apple has ZERO interest in developing good quality software.
 
Now for my biggest grievance 😂😂

Apple Intelligence is mostly going to suck.

They introduced Siri in 2011 and I still scream at her for completely screwing up a basic ask for directions a lot. 13 years later she can only find the nearest of any national chain. I will tell her to tell me to give me directions to the Best Buy in (suburb of Phoenix) and she will say "One place I see is Best Buy in (closest location). It has 3 stars and is six point three miles..."

"No Best Buy in....."

"One place I see is Best Buy in (closest location)..."

Apple is just not good at this and I wish they would let us plug into Google or Alexa instead.
100% spot on. Siri has sucked for its entire existence. Nothing proves better how miserable Apple's quality standards have dropped than Siri.
 
Apple's treatment of Dark Sky is criminal. It proves once and for all that Apple has ZERO interest in developing good quality software.

No

That could only prove that they failed to develop a decent weather app

It doesn’t prove anything about their interest in any other software
 
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system preferences, on the other hand, was a grid of randomly arranged often esoteric icons and you had to either already know where something was or click around the panes until you stumbled across it
(To be fair, the traditional System Preferences' icons were arranged by category, and some of the content of the panes was searchable from the main window.)
 
100% spot on. Siri has sucked for its entire existence. Nothing proves better how miserable Apple's quality standards have dropped than Siri.

I’m begininf to think you just don’t know what the word “proves” means

You might be looking for “illustrates”
 
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(To be fair, the traditional System Preferences' icons were arranged by category, and some of the content of the panes was searchable from the main window.)

Fair point

I’ll acknowledge this

I succumbed to the hyperbolic style of the poster that I was responding to
 
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No

That could only prove that they failed to develop a decent weather app

It doesn’t prove anything about their interest in any other software
Nonsense.

They could have left Dark Sky alone and just slapped an Apple logo onto it.

Instead, they "developed" it and run it into the ground, just like they have done with every other piece of software.

Apple has let all their talent go as evidenced by the unmitigated bilge they produce now.
 
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Apple products just work for me these days. I am pretty happy with their whole system. I have some issues - nothing is perfect but overall I like where their products are.

But in 2001 (maybe 2002!?) I brought the first iPod. It was absolutely the greatest item i had ever owned. A combination of the tech matching my own mid 20s obsession with music. It was phenomenal. Over time I owned a number of iPods, all great, distraction free singular purpose devices.

Nothing since has captivated and captured my mind in such a way.
 
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