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MRU

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Even though I don't see any lag on my 6+ I have to disagree on the tab reloading, mine is pretty bad and that's one of the 6+'s Achilles heels IMO.

I don't doubt you, like I say other people's browsing patterns are likely very different to mine so whilst I don't really suffer from this, I can understand the frustration if you did.
 

Technarchy

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Even though I don't see any lag on my 6+ I have to disagree on the tab reloading, mine is pretty bad and that's one of the 6+'s Achilles heels IMO.

Same. Since I work with a lot of web forms, it took extra care and concern to get anything done because if you navigated your apps wrong you would lose your entry because of the constant tab reloads.

I have no idea how Apple regards this as acceptable, but the NUMBER 1 reason I picked up the S5 was the multitasking and ability to hold a webpage for longer than 5 seconds if you dare go to another app.
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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Most of the time I'm in the browser and while Android browser scrolling performance flies even on older 2012 and 2010 devices compared to 2014 Apple devices that lag in comparison. Apple needs to focus improvement on this area in future iOS updates now that they know that 2GB DRAM alleviates the browser reload issue.
 

iBlazed

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Feb 27, 2014
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I have no idea how Apple regards this as acceptable, but the NUMBER 1 reason I picked up the S5 was the multitasking and ability to hold a webpage for longer than 5 seconds if you dare go to another app.

Yeah that irks me as well. For a company that's so obsessed with the end user experience, how do they allow themselves to get away with the tab reloading issue. I don't even think it has anything to do with the RAM like some people say, I think they purposely write the software like that. I just can't imagine why. It truly is unacceptable.
 

Fernandez21

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Jun 16, 2010
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The way I see it, there are 3 types of "lag".

1. Is the delayed reaction from when you touch the screen and perform an action to the time it responses. One way to see this is if your on a list, tap one of the words and scroll up and down and see how closely the word sticks to your finger.
2. Is speed, some equate slow speed to lag. This of course is how long it takes things to load, fairly easy to observe.
3. Is frame skips. This is how consistently all animations are rendured on screen.

Lag 1 really hasn't been a problem on android for a couple years, while I did notice it on my first android devises (Moto Atrix) its pretty much a non issue now, though its still slightly behind iOS, it isn't noticeable unless you have both devices side by and side and looking for it.
Lag 2 has been mostly on par with iPhone since the beginning and really depends more on your hardware. IOS had been better at hiding it by loading up a stitic image first, but both have been the same here for me.
Lag 3 is still the one that rears its ugly every once in a while and bothers me still. Now this isn't exclusive to android, all OS's including desktops will bog down and skip frames depending on what your doing, though I do notice it slightly more on my HTC one with stock lollipop that I do on my iPhone 6 plus. I do have over 200 apps on both systems though, which would no doubt contribute to this, but it seems the iPhone is better at keeping a consistent frame rate.

None of those are deal breakers at this point, android performs great while keeping a lot of versatility that iOS locks out to maintain that slight performance edge. Of course your expierence may vary depending on your hardware, android version, apps loaded, and settings.
 

Alphazoid

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I only see lag with Touchwiz interfaces. Otherwise both platforms are pretty much even.
 

Fernandez21

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I only see lag with Touchwiz interfaces. Otherwise both platforms are pretty much even.

I notice more frame skips with touchwiz, other than that performance has been really good with modern touchwiz, but those frame skips do bother me, plus the design, to mostly stay away from Samsung. But the Note 4 is mighty temping.
 

MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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I notice more frame skips with touchwiz, other than that performance has been really good with modern touchwiz, but those frame skips do bother me, plus the design, to mostly stay away from Samsung. But the Note 4 is mighty temping.

I find LG's skin to be worse than Touchwiz. 2014 Touchwiz wasn't too bad and lollipop is finally brining some continuity to the OS stock apps. It will be interesting to see in 2015 now that Samsung are closing down a lot of their redundant services if their handsets get a good speed boost just through OS optimisation (long overdue).
 

BlueGoldAce

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I find LG's skin to be worse than Touchwiz. 2014 Touchwiz wasn't too bad and lollipop is finally brining some continuity to the OS stock apps. It will be interesting to see in 2015 now that Samsung are closing down a lot of their redundant services if their handsets get a good speed boost just through OS optimisation (long overdue).
Agreed....the s6 will either be refreshing and great....or more of the same. Depends on if Samsung is taking notice of the user experience on other phones.
 

vgamedude

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Dec 10, 2013
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Same. Since I work with a lot of web forms, it took extra care and concern to get anything done because if you navigated your apps wrong you would lose your entry because of the constant tab reloads.

I have no idea how Apple regards this as acceptable, but the NUMBER 1 reason I picked up the S5 was the multitasking and ability to hold a webpage for longer than 5 seconds if you dare go to another app.

My 6+ reloads tabs all the time. It's very annoying. Safari is an even worse offender than Chrome is.

Very frustrating considering I paid over a thousand dollars for this.
 

Fernandez21

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I find LG's skin to be worse than Touchwiz. 2014 Touchwiz wasn't too bad and lollipop is finally brining some continuity to the OS stock apps. It will be interesting to see in 2015 now that Samsung are closing down a lot of their redundant services if their handsets get a good speed boost just through OS optimisation (long overdue).

Eh, I almost agree with you on LG vs Touchwiz. I like the design of LG's skin a lot more than Touchwiz, and both have the same level hiccups in my experience. Though I do find Touchwiz to be more intuitive and the features seem to work better.

I really hope Samsung can clean up, optimize, polish, and redesign Touchwiz, as the features they add seem really great.

Or at the very least, if they optimize Touchwiz, change the color scheme of the notification bar, and Google releases their dialer app along with their contacts app, I would be able to completely make the experience close to stock android with spen, multi window and that hardware. Sigh, I really want a note 4 now, must resist.
 

machtv

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Oct 6, 2014
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Yeah I'm not seeing it myself anywhere on my plus... Its honestly like they are describing a completely different device to the one I'm using .... If anything my experience if the 6 plus is just as smooth as my 6 was. I see no difference in performance and UI response over it.

Even the video I posted earlier of safari, no force reloading and all smooth in multiple tabs for me in everyday general use.

every single iphone lags. even a bone stock iphone with zero apps lags. here try it yourself. unlock your iphone and the instant you see your home page swipe left or right you will see it will not go left or right on the very first swipe. unless of course you take your sweet time doing it. and that my friends is what i call lag. the problem with the iphone is that it does it every single time. even if you unlock your iphone with or without the finger print reader on or off.
 
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MRU

macrumors Penryn
Aug 23, 2005
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a better place
every single iphone lags. even a bone stock iphone with zero apps lags. here try it yourself. unlock your iphone and the instant you see your home page swipe left or right you will see it will not go left or right on the very first swipe. unless of course you take your sweet time doing it. and that my friends is what i call lag. the problem with the iphone is that it does it every single time. you unlock your iphone with or without the finger print reader on or off.



Not getting that lag here at all.

Demo here. I tap to wake screen to try and get my Moto to focus. Then press home button to unlock and swipe immediately at desktop and it works perfectly every time.

http://youtu.be/la-QIdiE7HM
 

tbayrgs

macrumors 604
Jul 5, 2009
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Where do you guys see lag on the iPhone 6+? I recently went back from the ip6+ to a note 4 and one thing I will highly miss is how fast the ip6+ was. My note 4 on ATT was fairly laggy, but the one I have now is Tmobile and it's pretty smooth although Ihaven't used it much yet, so I'm assuming much of the lag on my prior one was from ATT bloatware.

Only lag that stands out to me when using my 6+ is when opening the Today screen on the notification shade and when using a 3rd party keyboard. In regards to the Today screen, pulling down the shade doesn't lag but rather the widgets filling their designated spots will often lag badly--specifically the widgets will be stacked tightly with no info or blank for a second or two before filling in. I have no idea if it's iOS 8 related or specific to the individual apps themselves. I suspect more of the latter as it's not consistent across all widgets.

The 3rd party keyboard lag doesn't happen using the keyboard itself but rather when touching a text box, the keyboard will sometimes lag popping up (or not pop up at all)--most common is when I'm trying to search using Spotlight.
 

Alphazoid

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Dec 5, 2014
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every single iphone lags. even a bone stock iphone with zero apps lags. here try it yourself. unlock your iphone and the instant you see your home page swipe left or right you will see it will not go left or right on the very first swipe. unless of course you take your sweet time doing it. and that my friends is what i call lag. the problem with the iphone is that it does it every single time. even if you unlock your iphone with or without the finger print reader on or off.

Nope. Unless you're using a 4S running iOS 8.
 

Switchback666

macrumors 68000
Nov 16, 2012
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Some people need to get a grip, now people need to ferociously start swiping the screen as soon is unlocked....
 

spinedoc77

macrumors G4
Jun 11, 2009
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every single iphone lags. even a bone stock iphone with zero apps lags. here try it yourself. unlock your iphone and the instant you see your home page swipe left or right you will see it will not go left or right on the very first swipe. unless of course you take your sweet time doing it. and that my friends is what i call lag. the problem with the iphone is that it does it every single time. even if you unlock your iphone with or without the finger print reader on or off.

Hmm, I'm not getting that at all. The instant the phone opens I can swipe left/right with no lag.
 

vgamedude

macrumors 6502a
Dec 10, 2013
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while I didn't get to use it for too long, from my experiences, the nexus 6 is smoother and less laggy than the iPhone 6+.
 

Switchback666

macrumors 68000
Nov 16, 2012
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Because its nonsense. The evidence being that he said 'you're doing it too slow'

I mean seriously.


That guy is the classic case of people that need to get a grip, never in my life I've feel the need to ferociously use my phone as soon is unlocked even in urgent cases.
 

TechGod

macrumors 68040
Feb 25, 2014
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Can I ask where ? I honestly have had no lag or stutters on my iPhone 6 plus either. Though I have reduced motion enabled, I never have experienced any issues in regards to performance.

Got an iPhone 6 5 daid ago and done have reduced motion on. No lay to be seen anywhere.

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every single iphone lags. even a bone stock iphone with zero apps lags. here try it yourself. unlock your iphone and the instant you see your home page swipe left or right you will see it will not go left or right on the very first swipe. unless of course you take your sweet time doing it. and that my friends is what i call lag. the problem with the iphone is that it does it every single time. even if you unlock your iphone with or without the finger print reader on or off.
No lag at all.
 

Technarchy

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May 21, 2012
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I would not describe my gone Galaxy S5 as laggy by any means. It was very responsive, and smooth.

My Note 4 has also been a smooth operator.

Yes the Touchwiz UI and experience lacks the fluidity of iOS and is a big clunky in places, but laggy? I wouldn't say so.

Out the box though, I can see why android phones stutter the way the they do. They are so bloated up the rump and garbage apps eating up processes and memory, which will impact performance.

Get that stuff removed, and only have the apps you actually want running in the background. Does wonders.

But yes I do regard iOS as more fluid as an experience, smoother, more responsive, and less laggy overall. The Nexus 6 though, is pretty buttery. Very iOS class in that regard.
 

mib1800

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Sep 16, 2012
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I have always use android as my main driver. When I use iphone I always get the feeling the UI is in slow motion (although it feels very smooth).
 
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