Bro, IDFA is created by Apple. It‘s part of the iPhone. It‘s a feature. You can turn it on or off in the settings. I used to be on by default. Since iOS 15.4 it‘s turn off by default and instead user can turn it on by clicking „Ask app to track“
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Other It’s not about privacy for Apple.
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In this case check out the ref links in the Wiki. While the Wiki may not be totally complete the info in it and the link refs attest to the accuracy.
Wiki is useful as long as you have an open mind and don't treat it as the end all.
It's worth noting that this 25 year "fan boy" waited to join the largest Apple news, rumor, gossip forum a week ago and immediately started to sow Apple FUD...
I'm sure you've got your reasons...
Privacy is a marketing angle and a differentiator for Apple. But it isn't real, or honest, or legitimate.
Hey Analog Kid, I‘m a regular Macrumors reader since many many years. I don’t know. At least 10 years. Probably longer. I started reading posts one year ago. I signed up last week to join the discussion. Being a fan not necessarily means you need to sign up for a forum and join discussions. I also don’t think that it‘s sowing Apple FUD. I was just very surprised and also sad when I noticed that Apple indeed uses trackers on it‘s website that Safari doesn’t show. They were advertising this feature (Safari spotting and preventing website trackers) in many keynotes/Apple events and they are secretly using it by themself and hiding it in their own browser.
Ok, but if this doesn’t bother you… that’s fine.
This page has a good history of IDFA and why it was created (to replace UDID's which were being abused).
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2022/...-ios-and-android-and-why-you-should-do-it-now
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uBlock Origin identifies 2 trackers on apple.com: securemetrics.apple.com and omtrdc.net (with CNAME securemvt.apple.com)
As i have understand it; Apple collects data from the user. Hos much compared to Google or other tech-companies i do not know.
But Apple, unlike Google, don’t sell our data to company that sees us, the people, as the products.
That is only a theory i have.
Maybe i am wrong about this?
But Apple, unlike Google, don’t sell our data to company that sees us, the people, as the products.
That is only a theory i have.
Maybe i am wrong about this?
While you are correct on many points, it's not as black and white as many want to paint the whole thing:
Obviously, a company that really wants to give users the most control of data collection and privacy should allow you to disable all of it despite rendering the product/service virtually useless as a consequence.
However, I think it's important to remember what the collected data is used for. The data isn't sold to third parties as consumer reports nor is it turned into leads for advertisers to target you and your particular consumer demographic.
Everything Apple does is for profit so obviously there's no intrinsic, altruistic reasoning behind the whole "iPhone = privacy" strategy.
But just because the motivation is money doesn't mean that Apple's efforts on privacy are not serious and offer nothing worthwhile for its customers.
Could be. One of the challenges is that Apple is mum about what it does with the data. Now we are seeing Apple delivered ads expanding. When it comes to data use and claims, there is Apple and there is Apple Advertising.
You may be right.
If Apple collects data from us, they have to use it somehow. I dont think that Apple just ”sits” on the data collected from the users and store it somewhere.
They probably, like you said, use it for example for ads and targeted ads, more and more like Google.
While I'm not a fan of adverts, I'm okay with Apple serving me up ads, based on my data and the advertiser doesn't have access to my demographic information. If this is the way of the world so be it. At least Apple should do this in a privacy protecting way.
That, to me, would go against Apple principles. If one wanted that type of thing...that is to render the product/service useless, buy an android.
Maybe yes, maybe no. What proof do we have?
what if Apple simply has total world domination in mind, instead of some lousy income by selling info to others? 🤓
I'm not against some ads in general, I would like to know though just what Apple is doing with the data and how this ties in to ads.
I don't care what Apple is doing with my data provided it doesn't leave the walled garden, but that's me. Just like the 50 or so companies I do business with, I can't worry about the data policies of 50 companies, unless they are so egregious some action is warranted.
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"The IDFA is used for tracking and identifying a user (without revealing personal information)." https://www.adjust.com/glossary/idfa/
True, but also don't blame Apple for hiding tracking. It's Apple's own thing DDG calls "tracking" first of all, and second of all...
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