Same thoughts here. And the 5C felt much much better in my hands compared to the 3G or 3GS.
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Same thoughts here. And the 5C felt much much better in my hands compared to the 3G or 3GS.
I’m sorry but the SE is garbage. In 2014, yes it was good. But time moves on
As for the 11, yes the camera literally is the only difference in terms of the experience. So it might be slightly better but seeing as most people aren’t professional photographers the XR camera is more than adequate for decent photos and Snapchat etc
As for the other so called upgrades, most people couldn’t give a toss about the extra gigabyte of ram or extra LTE bands or whatever
The XR is clearly to be the new iPhone SE3 with an upgrade to its SOC.
Its LCD and single camera guarantee a lower manufacturing cost.
The 11 is a great phone but also had the enormous marketing muscle of Apple behind. It was THE phone to have. The XR when it was released was always second fiddle to the iPhone XS.
Its LCD and single camera guarantee a lower manufacturing cost.
The 11 is a great phone but also had the enormous marketing muscle of Apple behind. It was THE phone to have. The XR when it was released was always second fiddle to the iPhone XS.
A friend needed a new iPhone a few months ago and was trying to decide between XR and 11. He went with the 11 because he saw the improvements as worth the extra $100. My guess is most people will feel the same way. The OP is the odd one out here. Which is fine if he didn’t have this insulting know it all attitude about it. But at some point when you have 4 pages of people disagreeing with you, you’ve gotta throw in the towel, unless you’re just trying to get in that boys hole.
The SE didn’t exist in 2014 buddy
Unless you’re living on nothing the extra $100 is well worth it for the upgrades in 11 over XR. If you need to save $100 that bad why aren’t you buying a moto G.
why would I pay an extra £100 for a phone that is exactly the same, “buddy”. That’s just stupid. Tbh if I was choosing today I would just get the 12 anyway. However if you wanted something cheaper, the XR is much better than the 11
I’m well aware that the SE did not exist in 2014 by the way. Im mocking the fact that it has the same design as the iPhone 6. I’m sorry if that went over your head
also why do you keep going on about the boys hole? I don’t get it 🤷♂️
iPhone SE is the same design as iPhone 8, not 6. Yes they’re similar in design but completely different in specs. That’s right, the SE actually outperforms your XR! Derp!
When you say things like ‘exactly the same’ and ‘much better’ I can see a little bit of dog **** stuck between your teeth
When you say things like ‘exactly the same’ and ‘much better’ I can see a little bit of dog **** stuck between your teeth
iPhone 8 is the same design as iPhone 6, genius
iPhone SE might have a newer chip but it lacks any of the modern features of an XR. Home button in 2020, lol
you come out with some really weird expressions too. Is English not your first language?
The XR exists to provide a $100 price ‘bridge’ from the SE up to the iPhone 12 in Apple’s iPhone price list.
And let’s remember that everyone buys a new iPhone for different reasons.
The SE is there for those that want an iPhone but price is a consideration and/or they just prefer the older form factor (or don’t care).
It’s worth remembering that for many people in the developing world, this will be the iPhone to get.
The XR is there to provide the $499 price point so the gap between the SE and the 11 doesn’t seem so big.
Who would buy the XR in 2020? Those that just want a big screen (ageing eyes) for the lowest price and who just take snaps with their phone etc. Those that want a modern iPhone for the lowest price.
The XR isn’t that slow. And for those that don’t care about photography, perhaps spending $100 more on the 11 would seem to be a waste of money.
Let’s move on.
The iPhone 11 is there at $599 again to provide that $100 bridge between each model & because there is now a $200 gap between a ‘modern’ two camera iPhone with a 6.1 inch screen.
Who is going to buy a new 6.1 LCD screen over the OLED iPhone 12?
Those who are price sensitive who want a new ‘modern’ iPhone but think the XR is getting a bit old now and who value the dual cameras etc but who want a bigger screen & can’t justify the extra $200 for the 12. I’d put students and graduates on this list too.
Then finally we reach the iPhone 12 mini. This one is easy: either you want a small screen in a modern iPhone or you don’t. If you don’t you move up to the regular 12.
Finally: if anyone has read this far, I think it’s pretty easy to see why each of the iPhones are on Apple’s price list still. And iPhones have got so fast that you can expect each model to still get iOS updates for the next 5 years.
And as to the speculation about the new SE. It’s obviously going to be the iPhone 11 which is used as the basis for this with an updated processor and x2 cameras but keeping the (by then) larger and slower Face ID array.
And let’s remember that everyone buys a new iPhone for different reasons.
The SE is there for those that want an iPhone but price is a consideration and/or they just prefer the older form factor (or don’t care).
It’s worth remembering that for many people in the developing world, this will be the iPhone to get.
The XR is there to provide the $499 price point so the gap between the SE and the 11 doesn’t seem so big.
Who would buy the XR in 2020? Those that just want a big screen (ageing eyes) for the lowest price and who just take snaps with their phone etc. Those that want a modern iPhone for the lowest price.
The XR isn’t that slow. And for those that don’t care about photography, perhaps spending $100 more on the 11 would seem to be a waste of money.
Let’s move on.
The iPhone 11 is there at $599 again to provide that $100 bridge between each model & because there is now a $200 gap between a ‘modern’ two camera iPhone with a 6.1 inch screen.
Who is going to buy a new 6.1 LCD screen over the OLED iPhone 12?
Those who are price sensitive who want a new ‘modern’ iPhone but think the XR is getting a bit old now and who value the dual cameras etc but who want a bigger screen & can’t justify the extra $200 for the 12. I’d put students and graduates on this list too.
Then finally we reach the iPhone 12 mini. This one is easy: either you want a small screen in a modern iPhone or you don’t. If you don’t you move up to the regular 12.
Finally: if anyone has read this far, I think it’s pretty easy to see why each of the iPhones are on Apple’s price list still. And iPhones have got so fast that you can expect each model to still get iOS updates for the next 5 years.
And as to the speculation about the new SE. It’s obviously going to be the iPhone 11 which is used as the basis for this with an updated processor and x2 cameras but keeping the (by then) larger and slower Face ID array.
The 11 is much better than the XR in every regard. There‘s really no point in not spending the extra 100$.
Also, I’m pretty sure you’re just a troll at this point. No way one could be so dense and ignorant.
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I have a base 11 which I bought this time last year. It's a great phone and has years of life left in it. It's a perfectly sane choice for those wanting a good phone who don't need some half-hearted 5G implementation and a better camera.
I have the 11, my partner the 11 pro. We don't notice the OLED advantages, but others may.
As a backup phone for travelling, I still have my 6S which is running surprisingly well on iOS 14. It was only relegated because the 16GB memory doesn't last long nowadays, plus I much prefer FaceID over TouchID,
I have the 11, my partner the 11 pro. We don't notice the OLED advantages, but others may.
As a backup phone for travelling, I still have my 6S which is running surprisingly well on iOS 14. It was only relegated because the 16GB memory doesn't last long nowadays, plus I much prefer FaceID over TouchID,
I received my 11 on Friday. I upgraded from the Xr.
I was very much looking forward to a 12. I watched the keynote Verizon 5G commercial. Looked at other improvements, went to the Apple site and did a comparison between my Xr / 11 / 12.
There are improvements to 11 in almost EVERY category. The new features in the 12 didn’t matter to me today. The whole future proof thing is odd for a device I will keep 2 years.
I really wanted ultra wide and other camera improvements. I got them. It has zero to do with Money. On the same day I ordered a Gen 4 iPad Air. And I am waiting for the new Arm chip macs to be Released.
Im trading in my Xr, got the 11 and will once again see what the 13 has to offer.
I was very much looking forward to a 12. I watched the keynote Verizon 5G commercial. Looked at other improvements, went to the Apple site and did a comparison between my Xr / 11 / 12.
There are improvements to 11 in almost EVERY category. The new features in the 12 didn’t matter to me today. The whole future proof thing is odd for a device I will keep 2 years.
I really wanted ultra wide and other camera improvements. I got them. It has zero to do with Money. On the same day I ordered a Gen 4 iPad Air. And I am waiting for the new Arm chip macs to be Released.
Im trading in my Xr, got the 11 and will once again see what the 13 has to offer.
it doesn’t have any new features except an upgraded camera. 11 to 12 has loads of new features. XR to 11 doesn’t. Get over it
I know you are probably just trolling here, but it doesn't matter
If you say "everyone of you are wrong and I'm the only one that's right", you might want zoom out and realise that your point of view might be the one that's very out of the ordinary. And you've tried to make your point, but you haven't persuaded one person. The XR is good, the 11 is better and the 12 is the best. If someone is on a budget, get the XR, if they can spare 100 more, get the 11, if money is not an issue, get the 12. It's as simple as that.
Go to Apple, compare the Xr to the 11, then get back to us. On nearly every aspect there is an improvement in the 11. Because you don't understand the value of the improvements doesn't mean they didn't happen.
There are plenty that prefer the Plus designs. There are some who prefer the 4.7” designs as well. I have an iPhone 11, XS Max and iPhone SE 2020 and guess which one I use the most? Guess which one I’m typing this message on?
I think the XR is a nice phone, but the 11 was quite an upgrade besides display tech. I’m very surprised they kept the XR in the lineup compared to the 11. That’s just my opinion. However; they all make sense so you have an iPhone at every price point starting by at $399
It makes sense. It’s similar to what Motorola does for its line up. Similar phones at similar price points
personally I would have dropped the Se to 299,Xr 399, iPhone 11 at 499, and kept the iPhone 11 Pro at 599 to then move into the 12 series pricing. The mini really would be necessary as the iPhone 11 Pro would suffice for that size and then just start with the iPhone 12 at 799, 12 pro 899 and pro max at999
personally I would have dropped the Se to 299,Xr 399, iPhone 11 at 499, and kept the iPhone 11 Pro at 599 to then move into the 12 series pricing. The mini really would be necessary as the iPhone 11 Pro would suffice for that size and then just start with the iPhone 12 at 799, 12 pro 899 and pro max at999
If Apple didn’t keep phones around in a lower price point, there would have been a number of “affordability” threads popping up.
It makes sense for Apple to cover a range of price points.
It makes sense for Apple to cover a range of price points.
It hasn’t got any new features other than camera enhancements.
Just like I figured. You don’t understand
chip differences,
water resistance,
battery life,
night mode,
deep fusion,
neural engine,
brighter True Tone flash,
6 effect Portrait Lighting instead of 3,
next Gen smart HDR,
extended dynamic range on 60 FPS vs 30,
audio zoom,
quick take video,
4K video recording and image stabilization to 4K,
slow mo video support at 120fps,
gigabit LTE, and
Bluetooth spacial awareness.
I included camera enhancements in there as well, as I’m pretty sure you just thought they slapped on a new lens.
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Those aren’t new features. Features are stuff like 5G, OLED screen, design, FaceId etc. A brighter flash, lol. I rest my case
Those aren’t new features. Features are stuff like 5G, OLED screen, design, FaceId etc. A brighter flash, lol. I rest my case
Just dropping by to say thanks for taking the time to post some sanity in the midst of troll feeding, entertaining as that might be.
Which iPhone do you have and why?