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Puddled

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What about iOS doesn’t just work for you?

Well for me, the ability of IOS to work as a production tool at work is limited. The file and data sharing on IOS is archaic. On Android (Samsung) i can use my phone as a mobile PC, uploading and downloading data at will to my Phone direct from my PC using drag and drop. I can take photo's or use PDF's, mark them up, save them, email them, transfer them , etc without any work arounds or fiddling. I can use the multi window which is very handy. I use NFC as well which well, IOS can't help me with. My work phone gets lots of emails on my work account. Android notifications is fantastic here. I don't have to be swiping my life away as i would on IOS. I also use widgets as well to help me, something IOS can't do

For my partner, her Iphone doesn't seem to like doing a lot of things. It is normal for her to ask me to take photo's, video's etc because her 16GB Iphone 6 is always full. My 32 GB S6 isn't as it is very easy to clean up memory on android. In other things (maps for example) she can't get it to work. This is a phone fault and a reset would fix it, but she doesn't want to reset and she can't figure out the settings in the mess of IOS to figure which bit is turned off or on.

IOS 11 has turned it into a slow buggy mess as well. App closures are common(er) than on IOS 10.
 

akash.nu

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One thing I like about the iPhone is the resale value. I’m sure the S8 doesn’t have near the resale value as the iPhone. Sold my iPhone 7 128 for $400.

I certainly agree with this. Recently I was trying to get rid off a few iOS and Android devices. The iOS devices got sold off really quickly without much hassles but I still have a couple of Android devices I couldn’t manage to sell. People just offer ridiculous prices. And by ridiculous I mean crazy.
 

macher

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I certainly agree with this. Recently I was trying to get rid off a few iOS and Android devices. The iOS devices got sold off really quickly without much hassles but I still have a couple of Android devices I couldn’t manage to sell. People just offer ridiculous prices. And by ridiculous I mean crazy.

When they word got out I was selling my 7 at work people were begging me to sell it to them. I sold it to my work partner. Could have probably gotten $450+ but he’s more of a friend.
 
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akash.nu

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Well for me, the ability of IOS to work as a production tool at work is limited. The file and data sharing on IOS is archaic. On Android (Samsung) i can use my phone as a mobile PC, uploading and downloading data at will to my Phone direct from my PC using drag and drop. I can take photo's or use PDF's, mark them up, save them, email them, transfer them , etc without any work arounds or fiddling. I can use the multi window which is very handy. I use NFC as well which well, IOS can't help me with. My work phone gets lots of emails on my work account. Android notifications is fantastic here. I don't have to be swiping my life away as i would on IOS. I also use widgets as well to help me, something IOS can't do

For my partner, her Iphone doesn't seem to like doing a lot of things. It is normal for her to ask me to take photo's, video's etc because her 16GB Iphone 6 is always full. My 32 GB S6 isn't as it is very easy to clean up memory on android. In other things (maps for example) she can't get it to work. This is a phone fault and a reset would fix it, but she doesn't want to reset and she can't figure out the settings in the mess of IOS to figure which bit is turned off or on.

IOS 11 has turned it into a slow buggy mess as well. App closures are common(er) than on IOS 10.

Entirely dependent on how one uses their devices. For example, my work never requires anything that iOS can’t handle. Even in your situation I think there are ways to do what you’re trying to achieve but you just don’t do it that way.
 
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macher

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Entirely dependent on how one uses their devices. For example, my work never requires anything that iOS can’t handle. Even in your situation I think there are ways to do what you’re trying to achieve but you just don’t do it that way.

From doing done research on the Pixel 2 people say it’s more production device than the iPhone. Not sure though I’m not a techy.

Can you share how the iPhone can be a full blown production device?
 

akash.nu

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From doing done research on the Pixel 2 people say it’s more production device than the iPhone. Not sure though I’m not a techy.

Can you share how the iPhone can be a full blown production device?

It depends what you mean by a “production device”. What are you trying to achieve on the device?
 

Puddled

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Entirely dependent on how one uses their devices. For example, my work never requires anything that iOS can’t handle. Even in your situation I think there are ways to do what you’re trying to achieve but you just don’t do it that way.
It is always horses for courses, but my pointz are valid. IOS doesn't just work unless it is the simplest of tasks you are doing.
 

akash.nu

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It is always horses for courses, but my pointz are valid. IOS doesn't just work unless it is the simplest of tasks you are doing.

I beg to differ. Being in software development, I think my usage of the device is pretty advanced compared to average consumers and I’ve managed to find a way to do most of the things I need to do on the device while I’m out and about.

Your file transfer issues can easily be solved using either google drive or Dropbox I think. It’s probably a better solution than fiddling around with cables to connect with your windows machine to transfer data.

Marking up and emailing PDFs is also as basic as it gets and the native mail clients handle that very easily. In fact signing documents is way easier using iCloud signature sync feature where your digital signature is available across all Apple devices.

Widgets are available on iOS as well and it really is a personal preference thing rather than limitation of the os. I like the iOS implementation simply because for me android implementation of widgets is way too cluttered.

iOS also has search within settings, so you don’t really need to find the exact place to be able to reset things.

You see, it’s a matter of using the device to its full extent. You might prefer Android for whatever reasons but at this point both the OSS can pretty much do everything one needs to do on a regular basis. It’s just knowing how to do it differently on a different platform.
 
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sracer

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It is always horses for courses, but my pointz are valid. IOS doesn't just work unless it is the simplest of tasks you are doing.
That is generally true. Even when one stays on Apple's "happy path" things aren't smooth sailing. Over the years, iOS has become a patchwork quilt of functions and features bolted on in response to competition rather than as a result of long term progressive implementation of a cohesive vision.
 
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jamezr

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That is generally true. Even when one stays on Apple's "happy path" things aren't smooth sailing. Over the years, iOS has become a patchwork quilt of functions and features bolted on in response to competition rather than as a result of long term progressive implementation of a cohesive vision.
agreed...IOS seems to be adding complexity just for the sake of complexity. the iphone X exemplifies this with FaceID.....eliminating TouchID and adding complexity and adding a swipe just to get to the homescreen. Incorporating gestures and multiple hand motions because the removed the home button.
 

macher

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agreed...IOS seems to be adding complexity just for the sake of complexity. the iphone X exemplifies this with FaceID.....eliminating TouchID and adding complexity and adding a swipe just to get to the homescreen. Incorporating gestures and multiple hand motions because the removed the home button.

Even though I returned X I didn’t return it cause of Face ID and no home button and gestures.

I found Face ID to be as convenient as Touch ID. Took a couple days to get used too. Same with the gestures. I didn’t like having to swipe up to get to the home screen though.
 

Puddled

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I beg to differ. Being in software development, I think my usage of the device is pretty advanced compared to average consumers and I’ve managed to find a way to do most of the things I need to do on the device while I’m out and about.

Your file transfer issues can easily be solved using either google drive or Dropbox I think. It’s probably a better solution than fiddling around with cables to connect with your windows machine to transfer data.

Marking up and emailing PDFs is also as basic as it gets and the native mail clients handle that very easily. In fact signing documents is way easier using iCloud signature sync feature where your digital signature is available across all Apple devices.

Widgets are available on iOS as well and it really is a personal preference thing rather than limitation of the os. I like the iOS implementation simply because for me android implementation of widgets is way too cluttered.

iOS also has search within settings, so you don’t really need to find the exact place to be able to reset things.

You see, it’s a matter of using the device to its full extent. You might prefer Android for whatever reasons but at this point both the OSS can pretty much do everything one needs to do on a regular basis. It’s just knowing how to do it differently on a different platform.

USB doesn't require data or wifi.

Searching for settings is only any good if you know what the setting is you are looking for.

The rest of your comments are just excuses.
 

I7guy

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USB doesn't require data or wifi.

Searching for settings is only any good if you know what the setting is you are looking for.

The rest of your comments are just excuses.
Searching for anything requires you know what your searching for. The rest of your comments are uninformed. See how easy it is to dismiss commentary that YOU dont like.
 

Puddled

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Searching for anything requires you know what your searching for. The rest of your comments are uninformed. See how easy it is to dismiss commentary that YOU dont like.
Nah.

Tonight I'll be trying to wade my way through the mess that is IOS to find out what is causing my partners battery drain on her iphone. I've no idea where to start and it isn't obvious when looking in settings either as its all over the place. On Android at least, the phone settings and app settings are well structured, making the detective work a bit easier.

And if you can please explain to me how USB cables needs data or cloud access to work i would be thrilled to learn.
 

I7guy

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Nah.

Tonight I'll be trying to wade my way through the mess that is IOS to find out what is causing my partners battery drain on her iphone. I've no idea where to start and it isn't obvious when looking in settings either as its all over the place. On Android at least, the phone settings and app settings are well structured, making the detective work a bit easier.

And if you can please explain to me how USB cables needs data or cloud access to work i would be thrilled to learn.
Sure.

I find android organization to be a disorganized hot mess unlike iOS which is easy to navigate.

However I’ll give you a hint; look in battery settings and see which set of apps; like Facebook, waze or uber is consuming the most battery. Uninstall app. Should take a savvy technician less time to pinpoint the issue than it took to explain it in a post.
 

Michael Goff

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I like how somebody asked why a person personally didn't like iOS then proceeded to argue that their use case was wrong. And by like, I mean stop it.
 
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KingslayerG5

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I feel bad for companies like HTC, LG, and Motorola that quietly innovate but are left fighting for table scraps. Sony is also clearly underrated but gets no love. You go to Best Buy, and they are bunched together while Apple and Samsung have their very own sections.

Samsung's J-series are more popular than their S-line around the world. Nokia was #1 globally from 1998-2011 because they made the best and cheap feature phones out there.

Samsung superceded Nokia because of Nokia's incompetence in the later years. They hung around with Symbian too long, had a Trojan horse CEO in Elop, and gambled on the losing horse called Windows Phone.

I never got attention from an iPhone or Samsung. Maybe once for an iPhone 4. Everyone I see has an iPhone in SoCal. My Stepfather likes Samsung and Android because he's a Windows PC guy. He doesn't care about walled ecosystems.

I'm probably the only hardcore Android fanboy in my entire family that I know of and I didn't like Android at first until two years after I started using it. I'm not into custom ROMs or rooting. I just like simple customization.

I remember going to Disneyland in Summer 2010 and I saw 90% iPhone users. This was back in 2010 when it was only on AT&T. Imagine now? I'm like Michael Fisher who doesn't want to look like a sheeple to any brand.

Look how Mr. Mobile covers up the glowing Apple logo on his 2015 MacBook Pro. He doesn't want to look like every Apple d bag hanging around a Starbucks.


I never found having an Apple or Samsung as a way of standing out from the crowd. In Asia, Samsung is common like Honda owners and iPhone users are here in the States.
 

akash.nu

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USB doesn't require data or wifi.

Searching for settings is only any good if you know what the setting is you are looking for.

The rest of your comments are just excuses.

The situations you described naturally makes me believe that you do have access to internet. In fact which workplace doesn’t have internet connection today where you need to deal with transferring digital data?!

Searching doesn’t necessarily need you to know exactly what you’re looking for, as long as you have some clue about what you’re looking for. I mean what are you trying to say here? Android settings section is easier to navigate?! You must be having a laugh.

Excuses?! For what?! I don’t understand what’s the big deal about what you do on your phone that a modern platform can’t handle. That’s just ridiculous.
 
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