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If the real Xcode really comes with iPadOS 14 then I’m not only gonna go with iPad Pro, but will sell my travel companion MacBook Air within a heartbeat.
 
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If the real Xcode really comes with iPadOS 14 then I’m not only gonna go with iPad Pro, but will sell my travel companion MacBook Air within a heartbeat.
What would you define as real? Would the ability to build and release iPad OS/iOS apps but not Mac OS be enough as an example?
 
If we got xcode and final cut i would probably never buy a mac. Really excited to see what ipados 14 brings
 
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What would you define as real? Would the ability to build and release iPad OS/iOS apps but not Mac OS be enough as an example?

I’d like it to support everything the current Xcode supports. But if they start with only iOS app building capabilities and then add MacOS later, I’ll be fine with it.
 
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I’d like it to support everything the current Xcode supports. But if they start with only iOS app building capabilities and then add MacOS later, I’ll be fine with it.
I think that's very unlikely. Xcode on Mac OS has an iOS simulator. To go the other way we'd need a Mac OS simulator on iPad OS! A terminal to test command line tools etc.
 
I think that's very unlikely. Xcode on Mac OS has an iOS simulator. To go the other way we'd need a Mac OS simulator on iPad OS! A terminal to test command line tools etc.

Terminal apps are there already on iOS. Apple might do their magic to get it working. This coupled with true external monitors support. Winner.
 
It could be an iPad 3/4 situation.
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I said 8GB because Apple has never been generous with RAM on iOS devices. I would take one with 16GB in a heartbeat it there wasn’t a huge impact on battery life.
Maybe they will start offering Mac-like RAM options on some models? 512GB and 1TB models with either 6GB or 12GB (or even 8GB/ 16GB). It would be a change from not officially disclosing RAM on iPads currently, but if they want to move the iPad into this space its going to be essential info for prospective buyers!
 
Dumb thread. Leakers may be wrong a lot or *******s, and it sounds like this guy is both ... but having a significant non-zero hit rate is what matters. No one expects it to be 100%.

There’s nothing dumb about exposing both sides of the rumor business. The guy is on track sometimes other times he’s the opposite. Good to keep that in mind.
 
This is great news. The iPad has such potential to actually be a desktop environment replacement. They’re powerful enough so it’s time.

I chose iPad over MacBook for working on the go. It doesn’t suit all my needs but gets about 80% of the way there. Plus all the other upsides it was a no brainer.
 
Dumb thread. Leakers may be wrong a lot or *******s, and it sounds like this guy is both ... but having a significant non-zero hit rate is what matters. No one expects it to be 100%.
This guy has sources inside apple so if he says it’s coming it likely is.
 
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All serious applications rely on pulling in extra frameworks and libraries that must be configured/scripted/integrated via command line. So I'm curious to see just how Apple finds a way to deal with that. It's certainly not a mystery or hidden problem to anyone who knows how it works.

I’m sure the iPad version of Xcode could include a limited terminal that could be used for this type of work. Or maybe they will offer an official repository system for those types of libraries which would be a bit of a headache to have to wait for library makers to participate and be approved.

Anything is going to be better than Playgrounds, which is great, but not for building full fledged apps and maintaining large code base.
 
I’m sure the iPad version of Xcode could include a limited terminal that could be used for this type of work. Or maybe they will offer an official repository system for those types of libraries which would be a bit of a headache to have to wait for library makers to participate and be approved.

Anything is going to be better than Playgrounds, which is great, but not for building full fledged apps and maintaining large code base.
Personally I'd like to see them just offer some sort of fast hypervisor like switching between macOS and iPadOS. Then I don't need to worry about the ocean deep rabbit hole of which apps got their features ported over. Xcode on iOS will be really neat, but it's going to be rather crippled without having macOS underneath and tools like homebrew to smooth things over.
 
Personally I'd like to see them just offer some sort of fast hypervisor like switching between macOS and iPadOS. Then I don't need to worry about the ocean deep rabbit hole of which apps got their features ported over. Xcode on iOS will be really neat, but it's going to be rather crippled without having macOS underneath and tools like homebrew to smooth things over.

In your case, just get a Mac. I wouldn’t expect full blown Xcode right out of the gate. It’d be nice, but more ambitious than what is needed for an initial launch on iPadOS. People with concerns aligned with yours will probably have to wait a while and that shouldn’t be a big deal. There is likely a large enough audience who would be happy to start with a “crippled” Xcode in iPadOS. All anyone has on iPad right now is Playgrounds.
 
In your case, just get a Mac. I wouldn’t expect full blown Xcode right out of the gate. It’d be nice, but more ambitious than what is needed for an initial launch on iPadOS. People with concerns aligned with yours will probably have to wait a while and that shouldn’t be a big deal. There is likely a large enough audience who would be happy to start with a “crippled” Xcode in iPadOS. All anyone has on iPad right now is Playgrounds.
Oh I have a Mac ... I'm definitely not trying to abuse the iPad into doing something it can't do. :). I'm just curious to see what parts of the IDE have been cut off to sandbox the environment.

You know what would be really cool is if Apple just made cloud Mac instances accessible via iOS. Or something like VSCode that essentially remotes the app experience to another instance running on a remote computer.

That's essentially what I'm trying to do now with my iPad via remote desktop, but deep OS integration could make the experience much better.
 
Oh I have a Mac ... I'm definitely not trying to abuse the iPad into doing something it can't do. :). I'm just curious to see what parts of the IDE have been cut off to sandbox the environment.

You know what would be really cool is if Apple just made cloud Mac instances accessible via iOS. Or something like VSCode that essentially remotes the app experience to another instance running on a remote computer.

That's essentially what I'm trying to do now with my iPad via remote desktop, but deep OS integration could make the experience much better.

I would love to see VSCode on my iPad. That’d be a dream come true. Yes, I could use Eclipse Theia, but that’s running in a browser.

Maybe MSFT/Eclipse can get VSCode running chromeless and without a node backend, but I doubt it.
 
I would love to see VSCode on my iPad. That’d be a dream come true. Yes, I could use Eclipse Theia, but that’s running in a browser.

Maybe MSFT/Eclipse can get VSCode running chromeless and without a node backend, but I doubt it.

I would also like to see VSCode on iPad, but I want them to give it a way to run Node, manage npm packages, and include CLIs for commonly used languages. Or at least a way to add them as needed.

I’d really appreciate a full blown Visual Studio. If Apple gets Xcode running on iPad and then that’s one step closer to having a way for MSFT to bring over their development suite. And other suites could follow for other languages from other IDE providers.
 
I would also like to see VSCode on iPad, but I want them to give it a way to run Node, manage npm packages, and include CLIs for commonly used languages. Or at least a way to add them as needed.

I’d really appreciate a full blown Visual Studio. If Apple gets Xcode running on iPad and then that’s one step closer to having a way for MSFT to bring over their development suite. And other suites could follow for other languages from other IDE providers.

If they adopt the LSP, that makes things easier.
 
Prosser is a nut job.

ios 14 is not out till end of Sept. Everything can change till then! And when it does he will say “oh well it was there I swear I’m confident bla bla”.
 
Prosser is a nut job.

ios 14 is not out till end of Sept. Everything can change till then! And when it does he will say “oh well it was there I swear I’m confident bla bla”.

But he’s been correct and has sources with Apple. 3 infact

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But he’s been correct and has sources with Apple. 3 infact

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He has not have sources with Apple. Please!

It’s a very vague and obscure prediction. I’m thinking of starting a twitter account and post speculations like that. I’m sure I’d get a couple of them right.
 
He has not have sources with Apple. Please!

It’s a very vague and obscure prediction. I’m thinking of starting a twitter account and post speculations like that. I’m sure I’d get a couple of them right.
Don’t be so foolish, he has a proven track record and been correct about basically everything this year. Other people close to him know they are legit. You don‘t guess the exact dates on device releases months in advance.

They are called leaks not predictions for a reason.
 
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He has not have sources with Apple. Please!

It’s a very vague and obscure prediction. I’m thinking of starting a twitter account and post speculations like that. I’m sure I’d get a couple of them right.

Yup good point. Apple has just a few of their own software products missing, to vaguely state that they will arrive at some stage soon isn’t too much of a stretch.

Having employees leak information is not an Apple specific problem but in this case there just isn’t much info there to begin with.

And if it doesn’t happen because priorities change or other stuff happens, one can always blame the effects of the pandemic.
 
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I have been waiting forever to get FCPX and Xcode in iPad. But the question is, is FCPX going to cost another $100-$300 for iPad? 😟
 
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