LumaFusion works well, but if you start to get into multiple 4K edits (for me at least), it starts to get a bit slow. Now sure how well the comparison is. I guess we’ll have to wait and see.
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All iPads Jon Prosser: XCode, Logic Pro and FCPX coming to iPad Pro
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Good point. For Superior Drummer alone - in its current form - I’d want to have at least 16 GB RAM just to be able to have the drum samples ready for play plus whatever the software (Logic) needs by itself. I hope this stuff is coming but hardware-wise I think we’re not there yet.
A professional audio workstation is the only thing keeping me stuck to the MacBook Pro. If Logic Pro becomes available for the iPad I can use it as my primary mobile unit and just have an iMac at home.
This is good news to many people in my shoes that use iPad Pro as their primary device.
It does makes you wonder what’s going to separate macOS from iPadOS a couple years from now especially with Apple to soon start testing ARM MacBooks.
This also brings to mind the news just announced by Microsoft on their decision to start pushing Windows 10X to the extreme now starting with single screen laptops. 10X looks very modern/futuristic and cuts all of the decades of bloat in Windows.
It looks like we really are seeing the end of x86 architectures as we know it. Hopefully they remember that professional users need proper pro apps and workflows or people will start migrating to Linux. iPadOS, macOS, and Windows 10X are going to have the spotlight on them to see if they do this right.
It does makes you wonder what’s going to separate macOS from iPadOS a couple years from now especially with Apple to soon start testing ARM MacBooks.
This also brings to mind the news just announced by Microsoft on their decision to start pushing Windows 10X to the extreme now starting with single screen laptops. 10X looks very modern/futuristic and cuts all of the decades of bloat in Windows.
It looks like we really are seeing the end of x86 architectures as we know it. Hopefully they remember that professional users need proper pro apps and workflows or people will start migrating to Linux. iPadOS, macOS, and Windows 10X are going to have the spotlight on them to see if they do this right.
With this rumour, the first thing I see is Apple is slowly moving away from building a Mac computer. If iPad can do just everything a Mac can do, there is no point to build a Mac anymore. Also, Mac is going to use ARM processor and runs iOS/iPadOS apps. Given enough time, both platforms will blend together while Mac still have no touch screen support.
I say this because professional application is what iPad lacks at the moment. Assuming Final Cut Pro, Xcode etc comes to iPad in 2021, more professional users will look at iPad and consider it as their workstation. My iPad Pro 2018 probably cannot run iOS version of Xcode, let alone Final Cut Pro, but I’d love to try those out in an Apple store when they are released.
I say this because professional application is what iPad lacks at the moment. Assuming Final Cut Pro, Xcode etc comes to iPad in 2021, more professional users will look at iPad and consider it as their workstation. My iPad Pro 2018 probably cannot run iOS version of Xcode, let alone Final Cut Pro, but I’d love to try those out in an Apple store when they are released.
Depends. Just because Xcode is coming to the iPad, doesn't mean the processing will be done on the iPad. It could just be a glorified text editor that compiles using iCloud for all we know.
Then again, playgrounds already exists on the iPad, already runs on the iPad (better on the iPad Pro than on my MacBook if I'm honest) and that is doing 3d graphics and sound at the same time, so I don't think that Xcode itself needs anything more than already exists on the iPad.
On the plus side there's little need to run a "simulator" for iOS development on an iPad as the iPad is already running iOS and iOS apps are fully sandboxed.
Yes it’ll definitely be a different variant of Xcode. I’m not expecting it to have macOS simulator support either.
The first version would be very basic that a proper switch of any existing project will just not be possible.
With such pro tools, multi window support will be essential.
Mac will always be then 1st choice for pro users. The benefit of the iPad Pro is to allow a more lightweight mobility option or a second screen. If you primarily code, then the iPad can do the job.
So coding is not “pro”? To me a pro is just a marketing term. For sure the Mac excels in areas where multiple windows are concerned or where lots of RAM is needed but in the spirit of “professional “ (let’s for a moment just assume pro is short for that) an artist with an iPad is equally pro.
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👍Haven't you noticed that the definition of "pro" at Macrumours is unusually narrow-minded? I can guarantee that if I was coding, even on a fully loaded MP, it would still be amateurish at best. When I use my 4 year old iPP and pencil for making lecture video, I am in the other hand "Pro" as it is my profession.
Power of the computer and "pro" use has very poor correlation.
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There are a few things iPadOS can still draw from macOS. One of those is window management/screen real estate across multiple displays. Let's say when you plug in an additional monitor as an extended monitor where you can do your main work, say editing, and then refer to documents at the side on the iPad. So it's not a simple mirror that people are doing right now. Oddly specific, but that's how I use my Macbook Pro now with an additional monitor for more screen real estate.
Past that point the differences will be down to hardware. At some point users will start to need more than one USB-C port and it's safe to assume iPad's not going to get any more than the one existing port.
This is how I use my laptop as well. Extending displays is vital for me.
I agree with you but to be honest it is not like the Macbooks have more others ports different than USB-C. Even Macbooks users are used to the dongle world.
Trust me, the bastardization of the word "Pro" by Apple is one of my biggest pet peeves. To me, Pro should imply a level of power, reliability, and extensibility that goes above and beyond consumer specs, and a focus on utility vs design, because the end user is making real money with the end product. iMac Pro and Mac Pro come pretty close to that, but the MacBook Pro, iPad Pro, and iPhone Pro nomenclatures seem to be little more than excuses to raise the price.
These days the Mac Pro is the only Apple device truly deserving of the Pro name (and yes maybe the iMac Pro line too). These do not deserve it: MacBook Pro line, iPad Pro line, iPhone Pro line, and DEFINITELY not the AirPods Pro line. 😂
Yeah they really hate him bad from the sounds. Behind the scenes they are getting really ticked off lol
I have another definition. For me "Pro" has nothing to do with power. You can earn enormous amount of money using a iPad. You can also play games using high end Mac or PCs and not earn a cent. A agree that Apples use of "Pro" is completely off but it does not trigger me because the word "pro" mean nothing for me. A machine cannot be "Pro", it is only the user who can be a "Pro". Think of it: A "professional hammer" What does that mean? "A hammer suitable for professionals" makes better sense. Perhaps my english is not good enough.
I kind of get what you mean but for me it is not enough. A user can make a lot of things to work. The question is is it worth it and what is the return of investment. In other words efforts spent vs gain. So for me pro machine is the one that allows the user to be pro with amount of efforts that are way below the profit they achieve. Efforts (in terms of time and money spent where time is money spent as well) should be proportional to the profit. This is the only case where for me it makes sense to spend more efforts (time and money on apps/dongles etc) to make something work.
I agree with this definition but power and traditional specification are not part of "pro" definition because these parameters are so user specific. What is not user specific is for example reliability and ergonomics. For example, a $50,000 MP would not add any value for me to earn more money over an iMac or iPad. In fact, the MP would be an economic burden and hence an unprofessional choice. For someone else such MPs as necessary and would be the correct professional choice. We all however need reliable computers with good ergonomics to earn money.