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[secretk]

I agree with this definition but power and traditional specification are not part of "pro" definition because these parameters are so user specific.

They are indeed user specific but answer to the question on how machine can make an user pro.

What is not user specific is for example reliability and ergonomics.

I would argue that even this is user specific. Reliability is a broad term. As an end user I care if a machine is reliable for my needs, not if it is reliable in general. Ergonomics highly depends on one physical needs. For example I have small hands, have wrist issues, have back pain issues and I have myopia. So for my needs I need big screen enough so that I don't put a strain on my back/neck and to not exhaust my eyes. On the other hand I have small hands so I do not need the biggest keyboard out there.

For example, a $50,000 MP would not add any value for me to earn more money over an iMac or iPad. In fact, the MP would be an economic burden and hence an unprofessional choice. For someone else such MPs as necessary and would be the correct professional choice. We all however need reliable computers with good ergonomics to earn money.

We do need them but we all put different values behind ergonomics and reliability. For example iOS management issues (with reloading tabs/apps) makes the iPad for me quite unreliable machine. For others the noise the laptop/desktop produces is sort of unreliability.

In my case power does relate to reliability as I need good RAM management. I might achieve this with more RAM.

 

[Rogifan]

Yeah they really hate him bad from the sounds. Behind the scenes they are getting really ticked off lol

I wonder who is leaking to him? How has Apple not figured it out yet? Kind of petty for Schiller to block him considering he’s never tweeted to/at Schiller.

 

[The Game 161]

I wonder who is leaking to him? How has Apple not figured it out yet? Kind of petty for Schiller to block him considering he’s never tweeted to/at Schiller.

Maybe he blocked him to show Tim it wasn’t him leaking stuff ha

 

[iPadified]

They are indeed user specific but answer to the question on how machine can make an user pro.



I would argue that even this is user specific. Reliability is a broad term. As an end user I care if a machine is reliable for my needs, not if it is reliable in general. Ergonomics highly depends on one physical needs. For example I have small hands, have wrist issues, have back pain issues and I have myopia. So for my needs I need big screen enough so that I don't put a strain on my back/neck and to not exhaust my eyes. On the other hand I have small hands so I do not need the biggest keyboard out there.



We do need them but we all put different values behind ergonomics and reliability. For example iOS management issues (with reloading tabs/apps) makes the iPad for me quite unreliable machine. For others the noise the laptop/desktop produces is sort of unreliability.

In my case power does relate to reliability as I need good RAM management. I might achieve this with more RAM.

They are indeed user specific but answer to the question on how machine can make an user pro.



I would argue that even this is user specific. Reliability is a broad term. As an end user I care if a machine is reliable for my needs, not if it is reliable in general. Ergonomics highly depends on one physical needs. For example I have small hands, have wrist issues, have back pain issues and I have myopia. So for my needs I need big screen enough so that I don't put a strain on my back/neck and to not exhaust my eyes. On the other hand I have small hands so I do not need the biggest keyboard out there.



We do need them but we all put different values behind ergonomics and reliability. For example iOS management issues (with reloading tabs/apps) makes the iPad for me quite unreliable machine. For others the noise the laptop/desktop produces is sort of unreliability.

In my case power does relate to reliability as I need good RAM management. I might achieve this with more RAM.

Exactly! User needs and the "pro" label has very poor correlation. Either it works for you and your tasks or not. The machine will never make anyone a professional. The correct machine will help you do the job cost efficient, but it will not improve your skills.

Apple just use the "Pro" label for more features. If the features are enough for a given task needs to be evaluated from case to case. In my view they could scratch the "Pro" label completely. Actually the "Air" label is much more interesting and telling.

PS. I also has small hands and cannot stand mechanical keyboards however professional that are. My finger hurts after awhile.DS

 

[rkuo]

I agree with this definition but power and traditional specification are not part of "pro" definition because these parameters are so user specific. What is not user specific is for example reliability and ergonomics. For example, a $50,000 MP would not add any value for me to earn more money over an iMac or iPad. In fact, the MP would be an economic burden and hence an unprofessional choice. For someone else such MPs as necessary and would be the correct professional choice. We all however need reliable computers with good ergonomics to earn money.

User needs are user specific, but pro specs are understandable outside of that context. There's always a general idea of what specs are consumer grade/mass market and where going above and beyond would only service about 10% of the population. Consumers usually don't need:

1. ECC memory
2. Large quantities of memory (past 16/32 GB of RAM) or storage (multi terabyte arrays)
3. Extreme expandability (multiple high power PCI slots, multiple monitors, 10gb networking)
4. Rackmountability and VESA mounting options
5. massive number of processor cores (8+)

etc. etc.

Again, let's not get confused about:

1. being able to do your job with consumer grade hardware
2. The actual gear being pro grade.

 

[iPadified]

User needs are user specific, but pro specs are understandable outside of that context. There's always a general idea of what specs are consumer grade/mass market and where going above and beyond would only service about 10% of the population. Consumers usually don't need:

1. ECC memory
2. Large quantities of memory (past 16/32 GB of RAM) or storage (multi terabyte arrays)
3. Extreme expandability (multiple high power PCI slots, multiple monitors, 10gb networking)
4. Rackmountability and VESA mounting options
5. massive number of processor cores (8+)

etc. etc.

Again, let's not get confused about:

1. being able to do your job with consumer grade hardware
2. The actual gear being pro grade.

This is just a specification list which is meaningless unless you state it in relation to a profession or a task. It's completely subjective list and voiced by a few people. By the way, who decided on that list? Tech journalists, nerds or a wide array of different professionals?

I bothered to look up "professional" and it relates to people as I though, and not gear:

professional

1. relating to work that needs special training or education: 2. having the…

dictionary.cambridge.org

As I said, the "Pro" and conversely "consumer" labelling is a meaningless concept without context. Apple uses the "Pro" labelling to distinguish "OK spec machines" from "Better spec machines" which is fine as it is marketing but poor for context of a profession.

Can I remind you that we are in a thread where we discuss if the iPad is changing the landscape of what a professional gear is. It illustrates that the field has moved on since the first workstation station tower was introduced decades ago and I am not referring to the tower clones of the original IBM PC here. The list of specs you presented is just an evolution from the specs of some of these workstations.

Sorry all for the rant but it is 2020 and not 1990! I am very much looking forward to see that computers are democratised even more the next coming decades and the iPad is part of that. Bring complex and feature rich (not "Pro" ) apps such as xcode FCPX to the iPad for amateur nerds like me as well as for professionals!