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snowboarder

macrumors 6502a
Jun 9, 2007
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Nice post, I want to upgrade to the 7+ from my 6+, but the home button and screen have both made me rethink buying one.

I'm in the same boat. I knew iPhone 7 was lame and not much different than 6s,
but didn't know it was actually worse. Seems like they chose the cheapest components,
still claiming 25% brighter screen when it's actually darker is... lame LOL
 

AppleRobert

macrumors 603
Nov 12, 2012
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But in fairness Apple is preaching it - http://www.apple.com/ca/iphone-7/

That was my point, it ain't 25% brighter. Is one suppose to keep their iPhone 7 if this is what Apple preached and one was expecting? The display is very important to me and my expectation was not meet.

That isn't to say there isn't something that could be done by Apple about it. If the solution is to just turn up the brightness to meet what you'd like to see, well no that doesn't fly. All that will do is kill battery life.
 

tvman

macrumors newbie
Sep 15, 2016
9
4
no headphone jack is a plus, its 2016 get with the times

where you disappointed the wasn't a rotary dial?

wow your sure are brutal to your fellow apple clan member. i take it you are also not going to get the new iphone because it is so 2011 with no fast wireless charging and oled screen just to name a few things.....
 

duction

macrumors 6502a
Jun 6, 2010
800
80
U to the K
Seriously, I've only been registered here for a week, but this place is like a ****ing cesspool of fanboys.

Yup, yet if you say somthing negative about the fanboys you get a warning from the staff here, i got a warning for calling someone a 'liar'. Saying 'get with the times' because its missing a headphone adaptor just shows how remedial some people really are.
 

zhenya

macrumors 604
Jan 6, 2005
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My theory has been that they hand pick the best panels for review and display units. It's only the bulk models that they end up dipping into B grade panels to meet demand.

Displaymate, for one, purchases their units at retail.

And I'll ask again. If your theory holds water, that this is exactly the same story every year for eight years, it should be trivial to come up with a single test done with proper gear to validate it.
 
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chimelime

macrumors regular
Sep 15, 2014
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Yup, yet if you say somthing negative about the fanboys you get a warning from the staff here, i got a warning for calling someone a 'liar'. Saying 'get with the times' because its missing a headphone adaptor just shows how remedial some people really are.

This goes both ways, if you disagree with a negative comment you're automatically a fanboy.
 

bbates123

macrumors 6502a
Jul 2, 2010
866
757
Tried this, looked artificial to me and contrast and sharpness still weren't as good as the 6s.

I covered this in the OP actually.

Comparing my old 6S with my 7 side by side I actually find the contrast and sharpness to be better in the 7.
 
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Shark5150

macrumors 68000
Sep 24, 2014
1,619
1,511
Dallas, Texas
Seriously, I've only been registered here for a week, but this place is like a ****ing cesspool of fanboys.
...and negative comments. Read through the threads for awhile. The naysayers outnumber fanboys 3:1. Apple is doomed. Apple can't innovate. I hate the screens. Every thread turns into negatives.
 

Bryan Bowler

macrumors 601
Sep 27, 2008
4,067
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My theory has been that they hand pick the best panels for review and display units. It's only the bulk models that they end up dipping into B grade panels to meet demand.

Yea, I'm sure Apple sorts through all of the displays to figure out which ones are worse and then they intentionally send those to their customers. :confused:

Nearly every time you post, you support my assertion that your line of thinking is nuts.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
13,161
3,721
Boston, MA
Yeah he is and people are allowed to disagree with him by stating their own opinion, right?
Yes as mentioned prior. I don't think this was ever under contention. Maybe I wasn't understanding what you're saying. It seemed like you were implying this is a one sided thread; either agree the upgrade wasn't workth keeping or get out. If that's not the case let this be my apology for quoting you in the first place.
 

urkel

macrumors 68030
Nov 3, 2008
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I think the OP is sharing his experience and opinion and is not projecting or implying anything about anyone but himself.
Hive minds do not accept independent thought.

Seriously though. People out here always say "Hold your judgement until you try it". And here we are with a guy that tried it and didn't like it. And people are still being dismissive about his opinion?

We're not Apple employees. We're consumers and critical consumer opinions are pretty important.
 
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chimelime

macrumors regular
Sep 15, 2014
222
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Yes as mentioned prior. I don't think this was ever under contention. Maybe I wasn't understanding what you're saying. It seemed like you were implying this is a one sided thread; either agree the upgrade wasn't workth keeping or get out. If that's not the case let this be my apology for quoting you in the first place.

I will agree the upgrade from the previous phone is very minor, however speaking for myself. I don't care. I wanted the new device.

If there's a screen issue, then for sure return it, do whatever, but when you act surprised by those other things then when I have an issue.
 

zhenya

macrumors 604
Jan 6, 2005
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3,681
Hive minds do not accept independent thought.

Seriously though. People out here always say "Hold your judgement until you try it". And here we are with a guy that tried it and didn't like it. And people are still being dismissive about his opinion?

We're not Apple employees. We're consumers and critical consumer opinions are pretty important.

He did not simply say he didn't like it, he made statements implying that these screens were of significantly inferior quality in not just color, but sharpness, clarity, power consumption etc. He has nothing to back this up. Nobody that I am aware of has ever used a proper tool and come forward and said 'hey - these screens are considerably out of spec - Apple needs to do something about it.' Sites would die for that kind of scoop.
 

lordofthereef

macrumors G5
Nov 29, 2011
13,161
3,721
Boston, MA
...and negative comments. Read through the threads for awhile. The naysayers outnumber fanboys 3:1. Apple is doomed. Apple can't innovate. I hate the screens. Every thread turns into negatives.
I can honestly say I haven't heard anyone claim Apple is doomed in weeks, maybe months. It always comes up when talking about the naysayers that I never see actually saying this.

What's amazing to me is a person isn't allowed to enjoy or not enjoy something here and share their opinion about it without the thread unraveling. Passive aggressive and downright ridiculous comments from both sides. It's like social media trolls hunting for the likes. What cool witty thing can I say in this thread to secure tons of likes and then never come back? (To be clear nothing that I just said is directed specifically at you; there are some repeat offenders that feature in this very thread)

As for innovation, I think the most innovative thing Apple did here was the a10 chip. The problem is that it may boost great numbers but people aren't really noticing real world improvements to their daily tasks. 50% speed is awesome. Someone pointed out the single core processing is better than a 2007 Mac Pro. Let that sink in. That's an amazing accomplishment. I just don't think nearly anyone is harnessing that power. And so they're stuck with judging this device in ways they can measure. And those points are falling short for some.
 

shox2k2

macrumors 6502
Jun 18, 2010
365
52
Wichita, KS
After doing research I don't think the screen thing is an issue. Especially since it can be adjusted. Now I've only done upgrades every two years (I upgraded to the 7 from 6) but I see nothing wrong with holding on to the 6s. I'm pretty sure that's a pretty good phone.

I will be keeping my 7 as the screen isn't cracked, Touch ID works and battery has to be better than my 2 yr old phone.
 
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duction

macrumors 6502a
Jun 6, 2010
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He did not simply say he didn't like it, he made statements implying that these screens were of significantly inferior quality in not just color, but sharpness, clarity, power consumption etc. He has nothing to back this up. Nobody that I am aware of has ever used a proper tool and come forward and said 'hey - these screens are considerably out of spec - Apple needs to do something about it.' Sites would die for that kind of scoop.

I wouldn't wast your time, we are dealing with a new breed of fanboy-ism here.
 

freepomme

Suspended
Oct 30, 2015
813
608
Boston, MA
After just 18 hours and 2 different iPhone 7's I have just returned the 7 and gone back to the 6S.

As of right now, the 7 is not a superior phone to the 6S in my opinion, for the following reasons:

-Yellow screens. This is a problem every year when they change the display. The good screens will come back in a few months. I think this has something to do with the manufacturing process of IPS displays. A residue is deposited for the first few million. In a month or so, the clear blue screens will return. This isn't glue, intentional, more correct, or any other BS reason we hear every year. Its a defect of the manufacturing process. 2 iPhone 7's I got both had vastly inferior screens to my 6S, even after color profile/tint correction. Contrast, clarity, and brightness all worse than the 6S.

-No noticeable speed increases. I put the phones next to each other and tried my hardest to make the 7 run faster. It didn't. In some cases web pages loaded faster on the 6S. Plus the intentional delay after clicking the home button that was introduced in the 7 makes it feel slower and laggier.

-Marginal at best camera improvements

-Weird home button that doesn't work unless pressed with bare skin (no more gloves).

-Legitimate concerns about the lack of sapphire (lower quality materials)

And for all this what do you get in return?

-No headphone jack.


No thanks, Apple
You've done well!! I'm proud of you. I couldn't have said this better myself!
 

HEK

macrumors 68040
Sep 24, 2013
3,547
6,080
US Eastern time zone
Seriously, I've only been registered here for a week, but this place is like a ****ing cesspool of fanboys.
To be fair there are at least as many hate boys here as well. For some unknown reason passions for phones seems to run deep. Truely an odd phenomenon. Really should stop calling them phones. Phone calls are like under 10% of what people use these devices for any more. Carriers don't even restrict amount of call minutes any more on most plans.
 

Bryan Bowler

macrumors 601
Sep 27, 2008
4,067
4,442
Seriously though. People out here always say "Hold your judgement until you try it". And here we are with a guy that tried it and didn't like it. And people are still being dismissive about his opinion?

I know you weren't responding to me, but I want to clearly point out that I don't mind the OP's opinion that the iPhone 7 offered nothing for him. That is totally cool. I also don't mind that he points out what he thinks is wrong with the phone. Nothing wrong there either. I'm stoked that we can consider any and all opinions.

But what I do have a problem with and I've been pointing out is exaggerations, lies, and completely utter mis-truths. For example, when he started claiming that every iPhone launch has bad screens for the first month and then Apple magically changes them so they're perfect again. And then he said that he had email exchanges directly with Tim Cook on this very subject, which he later admitted that he didn't. And then he makes claims that Apple evaluates all of the displays on the line and then sends the good ones to be display units and the B-grade screens to customers. All for the first month of course, and then they start manufacturing good ones from there.

The problem here is not that someone doesn't like the iPhone 7. The problem we are having is with the clearly outrageous claims the OP is making and the constant exaggerations and lies. It's ridiculous and challenging his claims is absolutely justified.
 

Macalway

macrumors 601
Aug 7, 2013
4,148
2,893
Come people, we should be congratulating him on this first return! After a few more, we can start to snicker, but it's too early now. After all, this is what makes MR great!

After 5 or 6 we can regroup and asses our progress. He diid make it for a whole day.

Kudos!
 

CBillups1

macrumors 6502a
Sep 1, 2008
685
37
Michigan
Anyone who did some research would know this wasn't going to be a huge jump from the 6s.

Well I am just confirming minus being black I see absolutely zero difference

Hence why I'm saying if it wasn't for the essentially free upgrade I would have never done it
 

Ceviche Lover

macrumors 6502
Jul 15, 2012
271
420
After doing research I don't think the screen thing is an issue. Especially since it can be adjusted. Now I've only done upgrades every two years (I upgraded to the 7 from 6) but I see nothing wrong with holding on to the 6s. I'm pretty sure that's a pretty good phone.

I will be keeping my 7 as the screen isn't cracked, Touch ID works and battery has to be better than my 2 yr old phone.


Umm when you adjust the screen in the software you dim it EVEN MORE. You should't need software to fix a hardware issue.

Taking mine back tomorrow and might re-buy in Dec/Jan once this is fixed.
 
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