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Completely understand where you are coming from. There is something key you missed, but I also can't give you details either. Jun at RL made sure I was happy. That is why I say they win. Would Goldfinch offered you something if you were unhappy with your case? Again, I can't go into detail but it was made right.
Next, so I said they designed the case with the intention of the charging port being bigger. They did not design the case to have a gap, that was an unfortunate result that is not seen as a major flaw by RL. Jun also said that he tested cases on the PM, that has been well established as not being an issue on the bigger phone. So RL may not be aware of this being a wide spread issue. So we should not be so quick to jump to it being a quality control issue. I may be one of the few people that reached out to Jun thus far. Let's give them time.
Lastly, Bullstrap is not one you should be mentioning as an example of perfect fitment or their warranty. Again I am not sure how many times it has been brought up in this thread, but the warranty isn't exactly the easiest to claim and many cases get denied. Bullstrap has had fitment issues with its closed bottom cases since the 15 pros were released last year. There are several people here that have shown pictures of their closed button Bullstrap cases still having fitment issues with gaps on the corners of the phone. I am not saying they are a bad company, they offer some really nice products, but we can't judge one company harder than the next because of a so called warranty. In my book, RL has won because they did right by me. Bullstrap has shown that isn't always the case.
To sum up, clearly finding the right formula for getting a closed bottom case whether it be leather, silicone, or plastic has been show to be an issue since the 15 series was released. RL is not alone, and I have every faith this will be corrected. They have not shown in the past not to offer the best CS.
Wow that's fantastic! Do you charge over night? I actually love the look of the MagSafe ring you developed on your Luckycoin.
So I am not sure what you are saying here. Because my case had a fitment issue (or so I saw it that way), RL failed? Aren't companies allowed to not be prefect? Let me clear, I am not saying RL is without blame, but if they are willing do something for me, that makes it right. That is all we can ask. Or at least how I see it. Again, I said they messed up here, the case doesnt fit like I would like. Others cases from RL don't have the issue at all, so I don't think this is a fail. A problem that needs to be addressed maybe, but only time will tell.
I am in fact not being more harsh on any company. Like I said before, Bullstrap offers a great product. They have had some questionable CS concerns and fitment issues. So in my book they have failed a bit more than RL. But neither are without faults. You didn't test the closed bottom BS, and that is the case that has the issues. Or some have had issues with.
I am not saying Goldfinch wouldn't help you out, but you also don't know that. Doing the right thing isn't always what companies do, and when they do, they should be praised. When they screw up, they should be called out. With that said, I did just that with the RL case. Everyone here has seen the gap and know I had the issue. To me that is all I can do. I would never tell anyone here not to order a case from RL. I will still sing their praises. Overwhelming I have had a great experience with them. That is why you see so many here defending them.
You were not rude in any way, nor and I am trying to be rude. Just having a good conversation.
Yes for now I will keep the open bottom as that is still my case of choice. The closed bottom was an exploration to see if that might make me bit. It has some concerns just as most of these cases manufacturers are having, but I have no doubt RL will get it figured out. The more people that bring it to their attention the better. If in fact you have the issue.
Oh no, you have to get a few little scratches. It gives it character. Every good leather case needs a little character.
Yeah if it happens it happens! If it doesn’t then it doesn’t 😂
Totally disagree!!! I don’t have any issues with this case! PERFECT FIT!!! And how could you say that they have a subpar leather quality???
Genuinely curious, have you tried any of the RL closed bottom cases?
I think “a lot of people” is a bold statement. I have seen myself maybe 2 other people here that have had fit issues and 2 people on Reddit that have complained. That’s far from a lot. I have seen more that like it.
Perfect case? I would love to see a perfect case. I haven’t found it yet, and there are some pretty expensive case. That’s a rather tall order.
I think RL are gonna have to address the issues if we see it’s becoming a widespread issue. It’s their first go at a CC case. I can’t tell you how many case manufacturers have failed at this already. I expect some problems on the first go. They did redesign the case, so there was bound to be some improvements needed. That’s why I said, let’s give them some time. People here have given BS some time to get the closed bottom cases right after a year of their introduction. There are way less issues with them now than a year ago. These things take time. We all love the open bottom versions of the case manufacturers cases. That has been a design that has taken time to perfect. The CC caused a lot of issues for all these leather manufacturers. I honestly think it’s been worse than better as an added feature.
I will add, I don’t think RL’s initial response has been great. I also am not sure they actually know what the issue is. The charging port being bigger isn’t actually the problem. For those with the issue, it’s the phone fitting properly down in the case.
I did, and disappointed so much, maybe because I had big expectations. bought their open bottom, and liked so much that bought their closed bottom expecting the at least the same leather feeling. And just it was not. My unit had that gap problem ( was for 15 pro max) and the leather while not being horrendous, just wasn’t as good as their open bottom case.
And don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to destroy RL, I like them, I don’t know whoever is “Jun” but they are a legit company. But in this forum I tend to see hard feeling when talking bad of RL. It’s easier to trash Bullstrap, Nomad, mujjo, decoded etc.. but when you say something bad about RL… meh “you are crazy, they are gods and lovely”. I don’t like to have that sensations. I trash every brand and praise every brand if they deserve it. I wish the best to RL and sure they will make this up, but let’s be real, if there is something to solve is because something it’s not well made.
Of course for me RL is not a banned brand, just their offer right now do not satisfy me, and I respect if it does to other. But FOR ME they are better deals out there depending where are you located.
I believe there are one or two members who are able to go to the RL store so will have personal relationship with the workers and store so will have stronger feelings and a stronger affiliation with them
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You'll find people have affinity to certain brands, but ultimately there is no right or wrong. All the big names offer good quality leather at a time when Apple don't any more - so at least there is that!
I've tried pretty much all the options (Bullstrap, Nomad, RL, Bellroy, Satchel & Page, Keyway, Andar, Lonli to name the common ones), and all have pro's and con's. There is no "perfect" leather case, and there never will be.
That’s totally true, this is the more logical comment haha. Long live to leather cases.You'll find people have affinity to certain brands, but ultimately there is no right or wrong. All the big names offer good quality leather at a time when Apple don't any more - so at least there is that!
Seems that open bottom, I hear more people buying their open bottom, but actually no idea. I’ve not tested their closed bottom, seems pretty decent right now, but had fit problems in the past.
In general Is easier for an open bottom case to have less flaws, and good opinions. It just have less critical points.
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Jun is the manager of the RL store. I have talked with him a number of times, and he always is looking out for the best interest of the customer. Funny enough, I don't get that personal experience with any of the other brands. Not good or bad necessarily, but there is personal touch to RL that I like.
That said, you are correct the RL closed bottom is not the same leather feel. Feel is much different than quality of leather. The closed bottom are oil waxed, so you get that slick more smooth feel. They also don't patina like the open bottom version that is not oil waxed. It's not bad leather, just you prefer the other more raw tanned leather feel.
I feel like there are tiers here. Bullstrap and RYAN London as far as mass production leather cases go, are the top tier. The open bottom of RL and Bullstrap open and closed that is. The next tier is the RL closed bottom and Andar. I believe RL holds a slight edge here. The bottom tier is Nomad, Mujjo, Decoded, and Bellroy etc. Not bad cases, but not even close to top tier. Some of these cases are very overpriced for the quality you get.
The price plays are large part in how hard these brands are treated. Bullstrap gets a lot hate because they are far and away more expensive than the others. They have to produce some really quality cases at the prices they are charging. In the same vein, you feel like the RL closed bottom is rather pricy for the quality. Fair enough, so you hold them to bit higher standard. I can understand that, but remember your case of choice Goldfinch is cheaper than several other offers. That means you are less critical of them. Don't forget as well, you have the 15 Pro Max and don't have the worry of the CC button. This has caused these cases to be a bit off their games this year. This year it's rather hard to give a ton of praise to any of them. They all lack a bit or are way thicker than before.
This 100%. I think past experiences play a large part, so when you are treated right you tend to defend a brand. We all have our biasesYou'll find people have affinity to certain brands, but ultimately there is no right or wrong. All the big names offer good quality leather at a time when Apple don't any more - so at least there is that!
I've tried pretty much all the options (Bullstrap, Nomad, RL, Bellroy, Satchel & Page, Keyway, Andar, Lonli to name the common ones), and all have pro's and con's. There is no "perfect" leather case, and there never will be.
We actually don't know the quality over time of Goldfinch yet either. I don't have any reason to not trust you, but I haven't tested their cases. Time will tell, and the keyword I said was mass produce for the top tier. From what I gather, Goldfinch aren't producing cases on the level of Bullstrap and RYAN London.
I will disagree with you on Nomad. Go check out reddit and see how they patina over time. It's not great. They for sure should be lumped in with Mujjo and decoded.
Thanks for this post. I have the RL open bottom on order and should have it this week. I just like how easy it is to swipe up with open Botton cases like the Apple clear case.