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fireman13

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I hate to have to spend $13 more for the same item. Is saving 13 worth the headache. That is a tough question for me to answer. When ordering, what was your delivery window? Did he deliver in that window for you? If he did deliver after the window, should you ask for something back, like a partial refund?

It says if I order today, the window is between July 30 to August 4th. Do I ask him before ordering if the order is trackable. How long to process, etc?

Also, how is the quality of the band, especially the width of the adapter. Does the leather part of the adapter fill up the groove, or are they a little short on both sides? Is the adapter a perfect fit. If the band is good, I might be willing to take a shot at it. He does have a return policy of 30 days and ebay guarantees.
Today was the last day of my delivery window(and I got it today). I was going to give him till today and if it didn't come I was going to start the refund process. 10 days is just to long for a delivery inside the US. However, I've ordered a couple of items from the Utica guy and it's taken 10 days as well.
The connectors fit well. Nice click when locked in. They are about a millimeter short on the edges like the others have posted but this seems to be the case with all the knock offs of the leather loop( definitely not a deal breaker). The band feels great and is well worth what I payed for it.

For me, I've wanted the leather loop and the Milanese loop since day one. I didn't want to pay retail for both so I had to decide which would be the better knock off and which I would pay full retail for. The Milanese was the OEM battle for me because I just couldn't find a knock off good enough and the leather loop knock offs looked very promising. I'm very happy with my 2 decisions. I know have 6 bands to choose from and I'm sure will add a few more. Hope this helps some.
 

SidBoggle

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Has anyone with a large wrist (around 200mm) received one of the knock-off leather loops yet. Ordered mine on a whim, but nervous about fit.

I have a 200mm wrist and received my red one yesterday. It does fit fine and feels pretty secure. It is a good 1.5cm shorter than my large blue apple loop though.

The quality is also nowhere near as good as the official one of course but it was the only way to get a red version. It actually looks really nice. The main bad news is that I only wore it for half an hour and my wrist ended up with a massive rash. I am going to give the strap a good clean before trying it again and will wear another strap for a few days until my wrist calms down.
 
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JerTheGeek

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For me, I've wanted the leather loop and the Milanese loop since day one. I didn't want to pay retail for both so I had to decide which would be the better knock off and which I would pay full retail for. The Milanese was the OEM battle for me because I just couldn't find a knock off good enough and the leather loop knock offs looked very promising. I'm very happy with my 2 decisions. I know have 6 bands to choose from and I'm sure will add a few more. Hope this helps some.
I also love both the ML and the LL. they are just awesome bands, and I've liked both of them since the Apple Watch introduction last September. I still want the OEM ML, but ordered a $30 clone to see what it's like and to hold me over till my bday in December; or maybe the clone will be great and I won't want the OEM.
To spend $300 for 2 watchbands, even though they are high quality, would be outrageous for me. $75 total for 2 clones is much more reasonable. Even though they may not be as high quality, with my total of 4 different bands, I will likely only wear each band 2 or 3 days a week. So to spend that much on bands I'm not gonna wear everyday would be crazy. The non OEM bands provide the bands I want at the perfect price.
 

dr34mc4st3r

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I just got my knock off blue leather loop. Signs of imperfection at multiple places, but it does feel nice to wear. Well, for the savings I got over the official loop, I will tolerate the few imperfections.
 

Skorpio

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Initial pics of red LL delivered from Utica. Bought on eBay 7/19, delivered 7/27 (6 business days).
All above adjectives hold true, it seems like a great buy! I cleaned it with a warm, moist towel, then some Lexol, an automotive leather cleaner, and now I will use Voodoo leather conditioner to try to soften it up some. I'll report back on the outcome.
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After 1 day of leather conditioning the large red leather loop band but not the small band, I have noticed the large band is slightly softer, with a slightly darker sheen, although it doesn't seem to show in pic. It looks better to me, but it might be a Jedi Apple mind trick. Smells nicer because Voodoo conditioner has a nice leather scent. I'm giving it another rubbing and report back tomorrow. For those that think the LL feels plastic-y or scentless this may may help.
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fireman13

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I also love both the ML and the LL. they are just awesome bands, and I've liked both of them since the Apple Watch introduction last September. I still want the OEM ML, but ordered a $30 clone to see what it's like and to hold me over till my bday in December; or maybe the clone will be great and I won't want the OEM.
To spend $300 for 2 watchbands, even though they are high quality, would be outrageous for me. $75 total for 2 clones is much more reasonable. Even though they may not be as high quality, with my total of 4 different bands, I will likely only wear each band 2 or 3 days a week. So to spend that much on bands I'm not gonna wear everyday would be crazy. The non OEM bands provide the bands I want at the perfect price.
I don't blame you. I completely agree that $300 for both is outrageous. Having said that, I love my OEM Milanese loop. I find myself wearing it more than I thought I would and out of the bands that cost $150 from Apple, this one, to me, seems to be the best bang for buck. I hope your third party looks and feels as good as the original. If it does, you'll love it. All the ones that I've seen just didn't have that tight mesh look that Apple achieved with theirs and that was what attracted me to the band in the first place. Good luck on getting a good one and Show us pictures when you get it!
 

iBlazed

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I received my 3rd party blue leather loop for 38mm watch from http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141714670274

The quality and colour is great for the price
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I received mine today as well. How do you feel about the magnet strength? Can anyone with both an original and a knock off give me an idea of how the strength of the magnets compare on them? I'm worried it will have a hard time staying put throughout the day. Also, how are you guys softening the leather? My loop is a little wide because the leather is hard.

EDIT: Nevermind, I had it on backwards. The magnets are actually very strong when you put it on right. I say for a $39 knockoff this is an amazing deal.
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JerTheGeek

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I don't blame you. I completely agree that $300 for both is outrageous. Having said that, I love my OEM Milanese loop. I find myself wearing it more than I thought I would and out of the bands that cost $150 from Apple, this one, to me, seems to be the best bang for buck. I hope your third party looks and feels as good as the original. If it does, you'll love it. All the ones that I've seen just didn't have that tight mesh look that Apple achieved with theirs and that was what attracted me to the band in the first place. Good luck on getting a good one and Show us pictures when you get it!
Certainly will do! Should be here later this week, if not, next week.
 

CarlJ

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I have a mix of Apple and third-party bands, and I like the Milanese Loop, but don't like how (I expect) it will look with the SGS. I would totally pay extra if Apple did a DLC black version of the Milanese Loop.
 

iBlazed

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Ok it's been an hour now and I'm absolutely stunned at the quality of this knockoff. I just ordered a black sport band from the same seller for $9. Hoping for the same quality.
 

dfine1966

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Today was the last day of my delivery window(and I got it today). I was going to give him till today and if it didn't come I was going to start the refund process. 10 days is just to long for a delivery inside the US. However, I've ordered a couple of items from the Utica guy and it's taken 10 days as well.
The connectors fit well. Nice click when locked in. They are about a millimeter short on the edges like the others have posted but this seems to be the case with all the knock offs of the leather loop( definitely not a deal breaker). The band feels great and is well worth what I payed for it.

For me, I've wanted the leather loop and the Milanese loop since day one. I didn't want to pay retail for both so I had to decide which would be the better knock off and which I would pay full retail for. The Milanese was the OEM battle for me because I just couldn't find a knock off good enough and the leather loop knock offs looked very promising. I'm very happy with my 2 decisions. I know have 6 bands to choose from and I'm sure will add a few more. Hope this helps some.
Thanks for the information. Well, for the price I took the risk. Even though it might be interesting waiting for it to show, as long as the product is good, I won't mind. I ordered the 42MM stone Leather Loop. I needed some variety and I don't like the Red one and the brown looks like someone going to the bathroom. I already have oem black LL and Non OEM blue. I will post pictures once I get it and let you know my opinion of the band.
 

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Just to add an update to my prior post - I as well have ordered the blue LL from Inkoo888 on 7/22. Received a shipping email from eBay on 7/23 with no tracking number. Tracking number did not show up until a few days later in My eBay Orders. Estimated delivery when I ordered was - Sat. Jul. 25 - Thu. Jul. 30.

Tracking details show Arrived "Shipping Partner Facility Jul-26-15, 17:08 PM, SECAUCUS, NJ 07094". Nothing has updated since. I'm doubting this guy is actually located in Dayton NJ like his profile says (the reason I ordered from him) since Secaucus is actually farther away from me then Dayton is.

We'll see if it shows up on or before Thursday. Seems like others that ordered from him did get theirs in the specified time frame. Just annoying it's taking this long, I guess I'm spoiled with Amazon Prime.
 

sean000

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Does this one seem to be any good?
HappyCell Genuine Leather Band for Apple Watch iwatch,Replacement L... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZUEDHJW/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_nGvRvbHHB543X
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It seems nice but not sure....

I ordered one of these a week or so ago based on positive Amazon reviews. The downside to this and many eBay bands is that they ship from China. Not only does it take about a month to receive the band, but I have read, but not confirmed, that returns are a hassle and can cost $20. It makes me wish I had gone with a different seller. Amazon now has leather loops from Senyoo (sold by Wearlizer?) for $50 that includes Prime shipping. That implies that returns would be domestic.

I'm supposed to get my Happycell mid to late August, so I will post my opinions here early after I receive it. Although I really like the blue and brown of the original Apple Leather Loops, I went with black since I wasn't sure how the Happycell colors would look (and I already have a brown leather band from Clockwork Synergy).

Sean
 

iBlazed

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Just to add an update to my prior post - I as well have ordered the blue LL from Inkoo888 on 7/22. Received a shipping email from eBay on 7/23 with no tracking number. Tracking number did not show up until a few days later in My eBay Orders. Estimated delivery when I ordered was - Sat. Jul. 25 - Thu. Jul. 30.

Tracking details show Arrived "Shipping Partner Facility Jul-26-15, 17:08 PM, SECAUCUS, NJ 07094". Nothing has updated since. I'm doubting this guy is actually located in Dayton NJ like his profile says (the reason I ordered from him) since Secaucus is actually farther away from me then Dayton is.

We'll see if it shows up on or before Thursday. Seems like others that ordered from him did get theirs in the specified time frame. Just annoying it's taking this long, I guess I'm spoiled with Amazon Prime.
That's the same guy I ordered from! It took a week to come. I ordered 7/22, came today. I gave him a hard time about it because I live a half hour away from Dayton and it doesn't take a package a week to travel a half hour. But it came today and I'm happy with it.

And by the way, I made sure to look at the address. It really did come from Dayton!
 

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JerTheGeek

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I ordered one of these a week or so ago based on positive Amazon reviews. The downside to this and many eBay bands is that they ship from China. Not only does it take about a month to receive the band, but I have read, but not confirmed, that returns are a hassle and can cost $20. It makes me wish I had gone with a different seller. Amazon now has leather loops from Senyoo (sold by Wearlizer?) for $50 that includes Prime shipping. That implies that returns would be domestic.

I'm supposed to get my Happycell mid to late August, so I will post my opinions here early after I receive it. Although I really like the blue and brown of the original Apple Leather Loops, I went with black since I wasn't sure how the Happycell colors would look (and I already have a brown leather band from Clockwork Synergy).

Sean
Actually I ordered from eBay, I believe it was seller "erockseven" or something like that; it is great, no issues. Good luck with yours!
 
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fireman13

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Thanks for the information. Well, for the price I took the risk. Even though it might be interesting waiting for it to show, as long as the product is good, I won't mind. I ordered the 42MM stone Leather Loop. I needed some variety and I don't like the Red one and the brown looks like someone going to the bathroom. I already have oem black LL and Non OEM blue. I will post pictures once I get it and let you know my opinion of the band.
Yeah, please do. I love the color of the OEM Stone loop. I'm very curious if the color of yours and the original are close. The third party looks a little darker in pictures but it's hard to tell. If the color is right, I'm going to have to get one myself
 

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That's the same guy I ordered from! It took a week to come. I ordered 7/22, came today. I gave him a hard time about it because I live a half hour away from Dayton and it doesn't take a package a week to travel a half hour. But it came today and I'm happy with it.

And by the way, I made sure to look at the address. It really did come from Dayton!

Ah that's interesting, thanks! Here's to hoping mine is in my mailbox when I get home.
 

gobluejd

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Got my Blue one today as well...Love it!!! Fits well. For those with big wrists....I have the Sport Band (Large - worn on 3rd to last hole) and this is how much more there is on this knock-off.

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paulgandersman

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I received mine today as well. How do you feel about the magnet strength? Can anyone with both an original and a knock off give me an idea of how the strength of the magnets compare on them? I'm worried it will have a hard time staying put throughout the day. Also, how are you guys softening the leather? My loop is a little wide because the leather is hard.

EDIT: Nevermind, I had it on backwards. The magnets are actually very strong when you put it on right. I say for a $39 knockoff this is an amazing deal.
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What is your wrist size?
 

thelead

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I have tiny man wrists, not sure of the exact size. I wear the smaller sport band on the third hole. Will try to give you an exact measurement in a little while when I get home.
Do you have the 42mm or 38mm watch?
 
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