Phones LG G6

[MRU]

Pretty nice was just my adjective. I liked the HTC 10 and the pictures it took. But it was just too small for me.
My experiences with the G6 leads me to believe it has a horrible camera. The pictures I took and posted here in this thread were really bad. They were blurry and unfocused espically if there was any kind of movement. Even a slight wind made the pictures blurry. Lots of others in other forums (AC) had the same experience I did. But then others here in this thread had just the opposite experience. So maybe it depends on the unit the DxO testers are supplied with.

You've inadvertently proved my point.

How will DxO assigning any score to the G6 change anything ?

Will it change your own experience ? No.
Does it mean your own experience was wrong or not valid if they gave it a high mark ? No.
Does it mean others experiences are wrong or not valid if they gave it a low mark ? No.

It's all arbitrary. A 'score', means little compared to end user experience.

For you the G6 was mediocre camera, nothing will change that experience. Likewise if it's just validation or confirmation of that you seek, you do not need an arbitrary DxO score. It's clear from images posted that others have not shared your own experience, but likewise other folks experiences do not negate or invalidate your own.

Hence my point I made from outset. I'd rather use a device and make up my own mind one way or the other, than rely on someone else to do it for me, especially given 'their' results have often proved contrary to my own actual experience.

You don't need DxO to do the thinking for you. Making up your own mind, whether that result is different to others is not wrong ... It just is.

 

[jamezr]

You've inadvertently proved my point.

How will DxO assigning any score to the G6 change anything ?

Will it change your own experience ? No.
Does it mean your own experience was wrong or not valid if they gave it a high mark ? No.
Does it mean others experiences are wrong or not valid if they gave it a low mark ? No.

It's all arbitrary. A 'score', means little compared to end user experience.

For you the G6 was mediocre camera, nothing will change that experience. Likewise if it's just validation or confirmation of that you seek, you do not need an arbitrary DxO score. It's clear from images posted that others have not shared your own experience, but likewise other folks experiences do not negate or invalidate your own.

Hence my point I made from outset. I'd rather use a device and make up my own mind one way or the other, than rely on someone else to do it for me, especially given 'their' results have often proved contrary to my own actual experience.

You don't need DxO to do the thinking for you. Making up your own mind, whether that result is different to others is not wrong ... It just is.

wait...

How will DxO assigning any score to the G6 change anything ?

I never said it would change anything at all. I was curious why it was never tested by DxO. Maybe LG never asked them to test it? Maybe they were afraid of the results? It looks like just about every other flag ship phone has been tested. Makes you wonder why the G6 hasn't been tested yet.

You don't like DxO...thats fine. But it still doesn't negate my questions.

I think you are reading way too much into this whole DxO thing. I don't base any of my buying decision based on what they say. Never have and have never said so here on MR.

Then I posted my findings when I had the phone. Overall the G6 was an awesome phone. The camera was horrible and produced blurry shot after blurry shot. Then others echoed my experiences too in other forums. Then others have experienced great results with the G6 camera. Makes you wonder why there would be such a big discrepancy.
I know you like the G6 and my post was not meant to put the G6 down.

Then your point about making up ones mind for yourself is funny....considering the vast differences in the opinions of people's expediences with phones. Some hate what others love and vice versa.

 

[spinedoc77]

Man all this talk just makes me wish there was a developer/vanilla edition of the G6. It really seems to be the best Android phone of 2017 so far.

 

[MRU]

Man all this talk just makes me wish there was a developer/vanilla edition of the G6. It really seems to be the best Android phone of 2017 so far.

I'm hoping the pixel 2 features similar device but with the stock android O

 

[Fernandez21]

I'm hoping the pixel 2 features similar device but with the stock android O

Yeah, that's what I'm hoping for too, the G6 with stock android and a snapdragon 835.

 

[MRU]

Android central chime in on DxO and echo everything I have been saying about them in the forum for a good while now and how their scoring system is at best "flawed".

https://www.androidcentral.com/editors-desk-dxomark-worthless

"Reducing a smartphone camera to a percentage score has the problem of being at once too vague and too specific. A number — a non-weighted average — doesn't do justice to the complexity of modern smartphone cameras, where performance can vary widely depending on the situation, and not all factors are equally important. At the same time, a score out of 100 implies precision. The OnePlus 5, Huawei P10 and Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ are all equally good, the numbers tell us. The LG G6 and Moto G4 Plus, also equal, with DxO scores of 84. Anyone who's used these devices out in the real world will tell you the reality is not even close..."

"There's also a one-point difference between a Samsung Galaxy S8 and a Sony Xperia Z5, which are light-years apart in real-world performance.

This underscores the craziness of putting stock in these single numbered scores for phone cameras, particularly when the same variance can exist between two physically identical cameras and two very, very different ones. DxO scores may well serve as a decent benchmark for the raw capabilities of each camera (personally, I think even that is debatable — see the LG G6 vs Moto G4 Plus example above), but they also have the effect of muddying important details around real-world use."

"All that being said, often DxOMark scores do match up with the observations of experienced tech reviewers. The firm correctly called the Google Pixel as the best smartphone camera of 2016. And I think most reviewers would agree that the HTC U11 has, by a slender margin, probably the best phone camera released in 2017 to date.

But that shouldn't compensate for the egregious examples of DxOMark scores not lining up with reality, the most recent of which tells us that LG's flagship phone of 2017 is only as good as a year-old Motorola mid-ranger. As a result, these scores can be pretty much worthless for directly comparing two or more phones.

Bottom line: DxO's reviews are informative and well-researched. But those numbered scores? Forget 'em."

 

[widgeteer]

Dunno how I survived this one:

A couple of hours ago, Amazon Prime Day was offering an unlocked LG G6 (GSM & CDMA bands) for $450.

I'm still kinda in shock I didn't pull the trigger just cause.

 

[MRU]

Dunno how I survived this one:

A couple of hours ago, Amazon Prime Day was offering an unlocked LG G6 (GSM & CDMA bands) for $450.

I'm still kinda in shock I didn't pull the trigger just cause.

I managed to get through Prime day here without buying a thing. We never got any major deals this side of things and even smartphone wise best deals were on things like a Moto G5 or Wileyfox for £40-50 less. Pretty crappy here.

 

[widgeteer]

I managed to get through Prime day here without buying a thing. We never got any major deals this side of things and even smartphone wise best deals were on things like a Moto G5 or Wileyfox for £40-50 less. Pretty crappy here.

I really didn't see much either. Although part of my problem, if you want to call it that, is I pretty much buy what I want or need as it comes up. When you're contemplating buying a smartphone "just cause", there aren't a great many gadgets you're lacking.

 

[MRU]

I really didn't see much either. Although part of my problem, if you want to call it that, is I pretty much buy what I want or need as it comes up. When you're contemplating buying a smartphone "just cause", there aren't a great many gadgets you're lacking.

Yeah good point, that's probably same reason I saw sweet FA to tempt me on impulse ...

 

[Geert76]

so, I got the LG G6 with 64Gb storage, dual sim and DAC now for 3 days. I bought this device from Asia for just €360 incl shipping.

My first impressions

Device feels really really solid. Not like the slippery- as- butter Samsung S8. The wide angle camera is a very nice feature. The front camera is plain crap, but I changed it to 5MP to get a better photo.
The S8 camera is still King.

The LG skin is minimal, but I like it that way.
I had the S8 for about 4 weeks, from a bunch of double apps / loads of bloatware and features I dont need to this LG G6 with just the basic stuff. The LG skin is okay for me.

Even if its last years SoC, this LG6 is ''flying'' (so far). I hardly notice any difference between fastness in the S8 and LG6. Heck, I allready feel this LG6 is smoother then my previous S8

I am enjoying the flat screen of the G6 much more then the curved screen of the S8.

I would never buy this LG6 for the retail price in my home country; €559. That would be too expensive for what you get.
I paid €360, a bargain, but with the risk in case of warranty I have to send it in to Asia.

I use this LG6 until Apple comes with the iPhone 8 / X / Edition (or whatever they gonna name it), and decide what to do after the prices are announced at the Keynote.
Still have the iPhone 7 in case the LG G6 starts bootlooping

 

[LukinLedbetter]

So on a whim I picked up a G6 at my local T-Mobile store since they're running a sale. Got it all set up last night and so far I'm very impressed. I've been using the Pixel XL for the past three months. This phone is snappy and very comfortable for one handed use to me. I'm looking forward to taking a lot of pics with the awesome wide angle lens this weekend. Oh, and I forgot how much I love flat glass!

 

[epicrayban]

Now that some time has passed, how is everyone liking the software experience?

Especially interested if you can compare the experience between it and the s8's and Pixel's.

Also, is the dual lens making a huge difference in camera experience compared to s8/Pixel?

 

[LukinLedbetter]

Now that some time has passed, how is everyone liking the software experience?

Especially interested if you can compare the experience between it and the s8's and Pixel's.

Also, is the dual lens making a huge difference in camera experience compared to s8/Pixel?

I will definitely be doing a direct comparison between the Pixel XL and the G6. The camera on the Pixel has been the best mobile camera I’ve ever used, so if the G6 can come close I’ll probably switch (at least until the Pixel XL 2 comes out!). I always put Nova on my phones, so from a day-to-day interaction the two are set up identically for me. There are things like water resistance, wireless charging, smaller footprint with more screen, and the wide-angle lens that differentiate the two the most for me right now. I will also pay close attention to battery life comps. The standby time on the Pixel is amazing. I’d like to see something close on the G6. Perhaps others who’ve had it much longer could comment on that.

 

[MRU]

Now that some time has passed, how is everyone liking the software experience?

Especially interested if you can compare the experience between it and the s8's and Pixel's.

Also, is the dual lens making a huge difference in camera experience compared to s8/Pixel?

For me software wise it is better and smoother than the S8. Nothing is as smooth as the Pixel.

However the G6 strikes a good balance of offering the customisation as well some very materialistic design in its own apps. It's own apps have been very well designed for the 18:9 ratio compared to Samsung's.

Memory management is far superior to the S8 and much closer if not better than the Pixel, despite the heavier OS Skin.

I like LG's UI - but I can see it irking as many folks as the S8 and they will end up using Nova or such.

It's also good to see a phone play properly with Google Now, allowing you to activate it with the phone sleeping / screen off - just like on the Pixel. Something that doesn't work on the S8 (or OnePlus 5) where you have to wake the screen first and then say OK Google ....

Battery life has been something unusual for Android and that's because it's has been 'consistent'. I get 5 hours SOT over the course of a full day, whether on 4G alone or Cellular & Wifi. AOD left permanently on, brightness at 75% with auto-brightness enabled.

Camera wise the main sensor is not as good as either the Pixel or the S8, especially in low light scenarios. Where the G6 excels is with the second lens if you take a lot of architectural style photos or need to capture height and scale in a confined space where simply the main lens on the S8 or Pixel can not capture all in the shot.

An example of that is this picture here of the GPO in Dublin. I was able to capture the full height and scale of the interior of the building without distorting the image.

(Compressed by Tapatalk)

So it's the versatility it offers that is its strength. But that only means something if you actually utilise it, and if you don't, the Pixel and S8 would produce better results especially in auto.


Things that have irked me ... occasionally changing themes the phone will become unresponsive or laggy - which is really apparent when in normal day to day usage it's like butter. A reboot fixes it, but it's annoying when it happens.

Security updates are slow (on June here) and still on 7.0 (like S8) which again annoys when we're approaching android O and are phones are still behind or trailing on the last software OS revision.

 

[MRU]

I will also pay close attention to battery life comps. The standby time on the Pixel is amazing. I’d like to see something close on the G6. Perhaps others who’ve had it much longer could comment on that.

A tip for standby time. Set Always On Display to turn off (go into standby) whilst you are sleeping and not using it.

I lose around 2% max overnight (Fully charged at 10:30pm-11pm to 8/8:30am next morning) by doing this. With AOD enabled you could lose potentially up to 10% overnight depending on how many notifications you get throughout the night.

 

[epicrayban]

A tip for standby time. Set Always On Display to turn off (go into standby) whilst you are sleeping and not using it.

I lose around 2% max overnight (Fully charged at 10:30pm-11pm to 8/8:30am next morning) by doing this. With AOD enabled you could lose potentially up to 10% overnight depending on how many notifications you get throughout the night.

You could try a wireless charging stand and leave AOD on. Makes for a cool night clock, too.

Great B&W photo above.

 

[MRU]

You could try a wireless charging stand and leave AOD on. Makes for a cool night clock, too.

Great B&W photo above.

A wireless charging stand would be wonderful has LG decided to grace the European G6's with wireless charging

 

[LukinLedbetter]

MRU, how do you find the camera in low light?

 

[epicrayban]

A wireless charging stand would be wonderful has LG decided to grace the European G6's with wireless charging

Ah, right. Sorry, mate.

 

[MRU]

MRU, how do you find the camera in low light?

So so in auto. I find manual produces better lowlight especially if I save as RAW as I can if necessary adjust later.

I don't tend to take too many lowlight photos however on any of my devices and when I do my expectations are always lowered. For me I mostly shoot in daylight with all my cameras.

Compared to the Pixel, the pixel is far better at handling and the post processing in lowlight when shot in auto even compared to the G6's in manual.

 

[LukinLedbetter]

Compared to the Pixel, the pixel is far better at handling and the post processing in lowlight when shot in auto even compared to the G6's in manual.

Good feedback, thanks. I’ve wondered if the Pixel is so good because of the camera app itself. And if that’s the case, couldn’t that apk be loaded onto the G6 for similar results?

 

[MRU]

Good feedback, thanks. I’ve wondered if the Pixel is so good because of the camera app itself. And if that’s the case, couldn’t that apk be loaded onto the G6 for similar results?

It's a combination of the lens and Google's post processing algorithms. Hence reason why despite the blackberry KeyOne featuring same lens, it doesn't take as good photos as the pixel as it lacks the software tuning. I don't think just porting the camera APK will work though. Unfortunately.

 

[LukinLedbetter]

Quick question, do any of you usually find that the battery life on a new phone is sub par for the first several days?

 

[LukinLedbetter]

I guess I should clarify. With the first two days of the G6 battery life has been terrible compared to the XL. Usage has been the same. Not sure if this is just a new phone settling in and it’ll improve, or if this is what I’m to expect going forward. Thoughts? MRU, epic, jamezr, others?