Like them or not, Google's Pixel phones will be the iPhone competitor we've demanded for years

[tbayrgs]

Good points. My observations are similar;

I'm 43 yrs old, two young grade school age kids in Catholic school, and I am the sales mngr at a high end Millwork + Window shop, dealing with very expensive custom home builders, and dealing with their homeowners. These are people spending $1.5 million on a cheap starter home, and most homes selling in that $3 million range, on a tiny city sized lot. They all drive pretty much the same 3 vehicles; the super high end $150k Range Rover, or the $125k+ Porsche Panorama, or the Tesla.

Anyways with the homeowners I deal with, the ones buying the cheaper $1.5 million homes up to maybe the $2 mil homes all have brand new iPhone's, and they are the typical trophy wife type women, and polo shirt wearing guys. But the guy with the real big bucks, buying the ultra high end $4 million dollar and up homes, with them I see old iPhones, or old Galaxy phones, never a brand new phone. And they don't dress as nice as the ones buying the $1.5 mil dollar home.

Seems like the ones doing the $1.5 to $2 mil dollar homes, are trying to prove they are rich and have money, and show offs, and get all dolled up. Whereas the guys that are truly filthy rich building $5 million dollar homes, they dress differently more low key, not show offs at all, and not prettied up.

At my kids school I would say it's 60/40 iPhone's to Galaxy phones, maybe an LG phone a little bit, and maybe an HTC, but never a Nexus.

Funny...very similar. We're the same age and my kids are in Catholic school as well. Your customers sound an awful lot like many of the parents at my kid's school--lots of professionals, many with more money than sense. And just about all of 'em pull out their iPhones when I go to school events.

Think I'm likely going to switch back over full time to Android next month (depending on Google's announcements on Oct 4)--bet I could get a bunch of them to switch as well since I get hit up for 'iDevice' advice just about every time I'm at some function.

 

[Tig Bitties]

Gotta give Apple credit on releasing major updates. Apple does this the best bar none, no question. Yeah iOS 10 had the launch bug, but other than that, it gets released, and it's not just for one line of iPhone, it's like 4 years worth of iPhone models that all get the same update at the exact same time. And no carrier delays or bloat added either. I don't care for the iPhone, but man it has killer support and accessories, and is in stores everywhere. Apple does it right.

Totally unlike the Nexus phone I like so much, it's updates are a disaster, and big delays, not all recent models get it, carriers can mess it up, accessories are very limited, etc...

 

[Vegastouch]

If you are into custom ROMs then why does that matter to you? You won't use the official update anyways.

 

[apolloa]

It will be interesting to see what the 5" one is like, although warnings are these devices will be iPhone and Galaxy expensive. No more cheap Nexus branding which is a shame.

I think I would still buy a much reduced Note 5 then the new bigger Google phone?
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Good points. My observations are similar;

I'm 43 yrs old, two young grade school age kids in Catholic school, and I am the sales mngr at a high end Millwork + Window shop, dealing with very expensive custom home builders, and dealing with their homeowners. These are people spending $1.5 million on a cheap starter home, and most homes selling in that $3 million range, on a tiny city sized lot. They all drive pretty much the same 3 vehicles; the super high end $150k Range Rover, or the $125k+ Porsche Panorama, or the Tesla.

Anyways with the homeowners I deal with, the ones buying the cheaper $1.5 million homes up to maybe the $2 mil homes all have brand new iPhone's, and they are the typical trophy wife type women, and polo shirt wearing guys. But the guy with the real big bucks, buying the ultra high end $4 million dollar and up homes, with them I see old iPhones, or old Galaxy phones, never a brand new phone. And they don't dress as nice as the ones buying the $1.5 mil dollar home.

Seems like the ones doing the $1.5 to $2 mil dollar homes, are trying to prove they are rich and have money, and show offs, and get all dolled up. Whereas the guys that are truly filthy rich building $5 million dollar homes, they dress differently more low key, not show offs at all, and not prettied up.

At my kids school I would say it's 60/40 iPhone's to Galaxy phones, maybe an LG phone a little bit, and maybe an HTC, but never a Nexus.

Their are an awful lot of millionaires who see more to life then the latest iPhone. I get very annoyed how particular iPhone owners seem to think it makes them higher class and better then anyone else, because they have an iPhone.

Take Steve Jobs, filthy rich and wore turtle neck jumpers trainers and jeans. No thousand pounds Armani suits..

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Good points. My observations are similar;

I'm 43 yrs old, two young grade school age kids in Catholic school, and I am the sales mngr at a high end Millwork + Window shop, dealing with very expensive custom home builders, and dealing with their homeowners. These are people spending $1.5 million on a cheap starter home, and most homes selling in that $3 million range, on a tiny city sized lot. They all drive pretty much the same 3 vehicles; the super high end $150k Range Rover, or the $125k+ Porsche Panorama, or the Tesla.

Anyways with the homeowners I deal with, the ones buying the cheaper $1.5 million homes up to maybe the $2 mil homes all have brand new iPhone's, and they are the typical trophy wife type women, and polo shirt wearing guys. But the guy with the real big bucks, buying the ultra high end $4 million dollar and up homes, with them I see old iPhones, or old Galaxy phones, never a brand new phone. And they don't dress as nice as the ones buying the $1.5 mil dollar home.

Seems like the ones doing the $1.5 to $2 mil dollar homes, are trying to prove they are rich and have money, and show offs, and get all dolled up. Whereas the guys that are truly filthy rich building $5 million dollar homes, they dress differently more low key, not show offs at all, and not prettied up.

At my kids school I would say it's 60/40 iPhone's to Galaxy phones, maybe an LG phone a little bit, and maybe an HTC, but never a Nexus.

How did I miss this post, SO DAMN TRUE!!!! LOL

 

[widgeteer]

It will be interesting to see what the 5" one is like, although warnings are these devices will be iPhone and Galaxy expensive. No more cheap Nexus branding which is a shame.

I think I would still buy a much reduced Note 5 then the new bigger Google phone?
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Their are an awful lot of millionaires who see more to life then the latest iPhone. I get very annoyed how particular iPhone owners seem to think it makes them higher class and better then anyone else, because they have an iPhone.

Take Steve Jobs, filthy rich and wore turtle neck jumpers trainers and jeans. No thousand pounds Armani suits..

I see comments like this and...they always ring so false to me. I don't believe any human being believes their iPhone makes them a better person than someone else. I have, however, run into plenty of Android folks who insist owning that OS proves they're smarter than others.

 

[v0lume4]

Good points. My observations are similar;

I'm 43 yrs old, two young grade school age kids in Catholic school, and I am the sales mngr at a high end Millwork + Window shop, dealing with very expensive custom home builders, and dealing with their homeowners. These are people spending $1.5 million on a cheap starter home, and most homes selling in that $3 million range, on a tiny city sized lot. They all drive pretty much the same 3 vehicles; the super high end $150k Range Rover, or the $125k+ Porsche Panorama, or the Tesla.

Anyways with the homeowners I deal with, the ones buying the cheaper $1.5 million homes up to maybe the $2 mil homes all have brand new iPhone's, and they are the typical trophy wife type women, and polo shirt wearing guys. But the guy with the real big bucks, buying the ultra high end $4 million dollar and up homes, with them I see old iPhones, or old Galaxy phones, never a brand new phone. And they don't dress as nice as the ones buying the $1.5 mil dollar home.

Seems like the ones doing the $1.5 to $2 mil dollar homes, are trying to prove they are rich and have money, and show offs, and get all dolled up. Whereas the guys that are truly filthy rich building $5 million dollar homes, they dress differently more low key, not show offs at all, and not prettied up.

At my kids school I would say it's 60/40 iPhone's to Galaxy phones, maybe an LG phone a little bit, and maybe an HTC, but never a Nexus.

Ah! What a fascinating read. Goes to show the mindset of the ones that say "I MADE MY FIRST MILLION" versus the ones that are ACTUALLY millionaires (the "millionaires" being the ones with the $5 million homes in your post).

edit - By the way I've always loved your username

 

[apolloa]

I see comments like this and...they always ring so false to me. I don't believe any human being believes their iPhone makes them a better person than someone else. I have, however, run into plenty of Android folks who insist owning that OS proves they're smarter than others.

So not only is your comment ridiculously hypocritical, it's also quite wrong as I've read people on here claim what I said, and I know people who think they are better for having an iPhone.

 

[widgeteer]

So not only is your comment ridiculously hypocritical, it's also quite wrong as I've read people on here claim what I said, and I know people who think they are better for having an iPhone.

Yes, I believe you because I believe everything written on the internet.

 

[IFRIT]

I see comments like this and...they always ring so false to me. I don't believe any human being believes their iPhone makes them a better person than someone else. I have, however, run into plenty of Android folks who insist owning that OS proves they're smarter than others.

There have been plenty of posts on this forum with people saying that if you don't own a iPhone then you must be just poor.

 

[apolloa]

Yes, I believe you because I believe everything written on the internet.

You don't seem to of understood my comment or your own reply?

 

[MacBAir]

No one cares about Google phones. Google never made a successful hardware product, probably besides the cheapish chromecast, despite many many attempts.

They don't have the engineering talent to tackle the problems that plague the Android hardware landscape (besides Samsung, all Android devices are pretty much the same, and not competitive at all. Over-reliance on Qualcomm SoC, for example) and also the Android Software landscape (not a single Android version since jelly bean has any useful feature for the vast majority of users. The update boat has long sailed away).

All they can do is create hype with failed initiatives (any single original app after Google maps on an iPhone) and projects (butter: No more lag! Volta: Insane battery efficiency improvements and iPhone beating standby times! Brillo: No one knows, but another hype train! Tango: Lol Ara: Who?) for the usual suspects to hype them away, while everybody else goes iPhone or Galaxy, for obvious reasons.

Samsung's Android version is already superior and everyone can see that they are 100% right to not wait for Google's buggy software implementations of what is going on on the iOS side of things. From Samsung pay, to the implementation of multi-window on tablets, to actually having a coherent user experience for the masses. Google and Stock Android don't exist on tablets. In fact, Android on tablets only has relevance because of Samsung. Same thing for premium Android devices. No Samsung = No success on the high end at all, for Android as an ecosystem.

No one in their right mind actually believes that Google can release a product that would turn people away from the Galaxy S series. They never showed anything even remotely close to that and will have to rely on the same partners and have the same issues as the Other OEMs. However, I wonder how companies like LG, Sony or others will deal with this.

Interesting.

 

[phoneguy265]

This forum is just awful. I remember lurking a while back and it actually had interesting conversation and insight on Android.

 

[widgeteer]

You don't seem to of understood my comment or your own reply?

I would Google "small sample size", and "anecdotal evidence" if I were you. Lemme know what you turn up.

 

[apolloa]

I would Google "small sample size", and "anecdotal evidence" if I were you. Lemme know what you turn up.

Why? As I said you didn't understand my comment or it seems your own reply?

 

[widgeteer]

Why? As I said you didn't understand my comment or it seems your own reply?

Still nothin, eh? Okay. I'll be here when you find something.

 

[JaySoul]

The more it leaks, the less excited I am about it.

However, I very much hope Google are holding some aces up their sleeves.

My suspicion is that they will get there in 2-3 years, but for now the Pixel will be niche.

 

[apolloa]

Still nothin, eh? Okay. I'll be here when you find something.

Your just trolling now...

Moving on...

I'm not sure about premium Google phones, I think it would have been better to of kept the Play Edition programme going for the higher level phones like the Galaxy. But we will see what happens I guess.

 

[Abazigal]

I will believe it when I see it. The iPhone probably experiences more competition from older iPhone models than competing Android smartphones.

 

[apolloa]

I will believe it when I see it. The iPhone probably experiences more competition from older iPhone models than competing Android smartphones.

Apple losing market share to Android devices globally, and Android devices having the biggest worldwide smartphone market share would indicate otherwise.

 

[widgeteer]

Your just trolling now...

Moving on...

I'm not sure about premium Google phones, I think it would have been better to of kept the Play Edition programme going for the higher level phones like the Galaxy. But we will see what happens I guess.

Incorrect. I was responding to your trolling. And now I see you're citing the tired market share argument for Android, which is a free OS that every OEM slaps on everything from crap dumbphones to cheap tablets. Why don't you tell us how profits are for these OEMs vs Apple or is this another of your Google search-adverse arguments?

 

[apolloa]

Incorrect. I was responding to your trolling. And now I see you're citing the tired market share argument for Android, which is a free OS that every OEM slaps on everything from crap dumbphones to cheap tablets. Why don't you tell us how profits are for these OEMs vs Apple or is this another of your Google search-adverse arguments?

Yeap your definitely trolling....
And still being a complete hypocrite too.

 

[widgeteer]

Yeap your definitely trolling....
And still being a complete hypocrite too.

The minute someone's response to an argument is "troll" they're admitting they can't hang with the conversation. A troll doesn't engage with actual facts or an argument. They just name call and bail. Gee, sounds awfully familiar.

 

[Hanzu Lao]

I just want to pich in quickly and say that the title is really funny.

 

[JaySoul]

Good points. My observations are similar;

I'm 43 yrs old, two young grade school age kids in Catholic school, and I am the sales mngr at a high end Millwork + Window shop, dealing with very expensive custom home builders, and dealing with their homeowners. These are people spending $1.5 million on a cheap starter home, and most homes selling in that $3 million range, on a tiny city sized lot. They all drive pretty much the same 3 vehicles; the super high end $150k Range Rover, or the $125k+ Porsche Panorama, or the Tesla.

Anyways with the homeowners I deal with, the ones buying the cheaper $1.5 million homes up to maybe the $2 mil homes all have brand new iPhone's, and they are the typical trophy wife type women, and polo shirt wearing guys. But the guy with the real big bucks, buying the ultra high end $4 million dollar and up homes, with them I see old iPhones, or old Galaxy phones, never a brand new phone. And they don't dress as nice as the ones buying the $1.5 mil dollar home.

Seems like the ones doing the $1.5 to $2 mil dollar homes, are trying to prove they are rich and have money, and show offs, and get all dolled up. Whereas the guys that are truly filthy rich building $5 million dollar homes, they dress differently more low key, not show offs at all, and not prettied up.

At my kids school I would say it's 60/40 iPhone's to Galaxy phones, maybe an LG phone a little bit, and maybe an HTC, but never a Nexus.

There is a great book - an oldie but goodie, still super relevant - called "The Millionaire Next Door" by Thomas J. Stanley. Definitely worth a read and touches on vaguely similar points to your post!