Just a small correction, android is not free. It came out somewhere google makes a ton of money, in the tens of billions, from android. So with market share google makes out very well.
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Like them or not, Google's Pixel phones will be the iPhone competitor we've demanded for years
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Kind of off topic in my own thread, what if Samsung went full Tizen OS in few years, and ditches Google / Android, but they keep the popular Galaxy nameplate ?
What does Google do ? And would Samsung be as successful without Android OS ?
What does Google do ? And would Samsung be as successful without Android OS ?
Technically GMS aren't free. You can run Android which is Open Source with F-Droid. The Oracle v Google case Oracle said Google had made something in the neighborhood of 10 Billion off Android and that was a couple years ago.
I think Samsung could get a decent market share for a short while, assuming they could do a good job on the Tizen front.
But I personally don't think the will is there anymore, people seem to have accepted Android and iOS as the dominant forces.
Tbh they should have done it 5 years ago. It's just too late now to go all in on your own OS.
We hear this crap every year. Nice phone but nothing special. Very average. I'm sticking with Apple.
This got me thinking about what a redesigned iPhone would look like. There really isn't much anyone can do to make their phones look hugely different anymore. The first thing I thought of when I looked at the Pixel was how much it looked like the iPhone. Not in the sense that Google copied Apple (I ain't about to open that can 'o worms), but in the sense that there's only so much you can do with a rectangle that's mostly screen.
I think these days, redesigns will be limited to getting rid of more and more bezel, and playing with the colors and patterns on the back. We've gotten to the point where everything is so thin and efficient, there isn't much room for design anymore.
Some day when you grow up we'll listen
I ain't got no problems cept you old people crampin' muh style.
I ain't got no problems cept you old people crampin' muh style.
Don't you have a WinMo phone to buy
Keeping the ecosystem and all that
Some day when you grow up we'll listen
He dislikes turtles.I ain't got no problems cept you old people crampin' muh style.
I think you nailed it regarding future design.
Confirmed: the Verizon Pixel's bootloader will not be unlockable
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/04/confirmed-verizon-pixels-bootloader-will-not-unlockable/
Google representative and confirm that Verizon Pixels' bootloaders would not be unlockable.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/10/04/confirmed-verizon-pixels-bootloader-will-not-unlockable/
Google representative and confirm that Verizon Pixels' bootloaders would not be unlockable.
He doesn't like turtles???
Renz WTF is wrong with you
You talking about the candy, or the lizards, cuz I have two different opinions here...
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Don't you have a WinMo phone to buy
Dude. That's mean.
Candy. But turtle soup isn't too bad.You talking about the candy, or the lizards, cuz I have two different opinions here...
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Dude. That's mean.
I do like the candies. Though I've never had turtle soup.
From what I hear, turtle tastes a lot like chicken. If that's the case, why go through all that trouble, when I can cut through all the BS, and just eat some damn chicken soup?
Without the play store, Samsung is dead in the water, IMHO. There are two App ecosystems now in the mobile space. If Windows Phone has taught us anything, there is no room for another ecosystem.
In the consumer electronics business, an overwhelmingly dominate duopoly is the norm for platform wars. The 3rd player is usually a very distant runner up.
I posted this in another thread but think it applies to the theme of this one as well.
Think this offers pretty good insight into Google's new strategy with the release of all the new products discussed at yesterday's event. It seems pretty clear that they have their sites set on Apple and Apple's strategy of an all encompassing ecosystem.
THE GOOGLE PHONE
The inside story of Google’s bold bet on hardware
Think this offers pretty good insight into Google's new strategy with the release of all the new products discussed at yesterday's event. It seems pretty clear that they have their sites set on Apple and Apple's strategy of an all encompassing ecosystem.
THE GOOGLE PHONE
The inside story of Google’s bold bet on hardware
Typically focused on all the negative things they can say about Google, lots of so called smartphone enthusiasts are missing out on the exciting new aspects and features of the Pixel phones. It's their loss.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...i-focused-event.2004237/page-22#post-23668219
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...i-focused-event.2004237/page-22#post-23668219
Samsung is not in a position to do that. If they dropped Android and started selling Tizen-only phones, people would find out real quick that it's missing all of they apps they rely on.
Apps are the only thing keeping new operating systems from springing up at this point.
That thread is embarrassing. It's almost as bad as the comments on any political article online. And this is over phones.
It won't be! You know why? The consumer wants features and sexy hardware. And when you charge $649 for a boring Pixel phone and a fully loaded Galaxy cost between $599 to $649 with a lot more to offer people are going to pick the other Android OEM.
I never thought I would be saying this but a $649 iPhone 7 is smarter buy than a $649 Pixel. At least I know that after two years the iPhone will still receive timely updates and be worth more than the Pixel.
I never thought I would be saying this but a $649 iPhone 7 is smarter buy than a $649 Pixel. At least I know that after two years the iPhone will still receive timely updates and be worth more than the Pixel.
Yeah after yesterday, I don't recall anything memorable that 8yrs from now we'll still be talking about. At least that what Google said we'd be saying.
Unless it's the iPhone-esque pricing strategy, no more affordable Nexus.
Even though each year the Nexus phone always had current flagship hardware matching whatever current high end Samsung Galaxy phone had for the same year. So don't know why all of a sudden putting a better camera in and maybe a nicer display, doubled the price of this new Nexus I mean Pixel ?
Year after year the Nexus phones always had top of the line hardware, same exact processors and RAM, and screen resolution as the current Galaxy S or HTC One M phone from that same year, but those Samsung and HTC phones were selling for $650 to $700, whereas the Nexus phones sold for $399. Yeah the Nexus phones had a poor camera, and maybe lower end build quality, but is that worth double the price difference ? Nope.
Unless it's the iPhone-esque pricing strategy, no more affordable Nexus.
Even though each year the Nexus phone always had current flagship hardware matching whatever current high end Samsung Galaxy phone had for the same year. So don't know why all of a sudden putting a better camera in and maybe a nicer display, doubled the price of this new Nexus I mean Pixel ?
Year after year the Nexus phones always had top of the line hardware, same exact processors and RAM, and screen resolution as the current Galaxy S or HTC One M phone from that same year, but those Samsung and HTC phones were selling for $650 to $700, whereas the Nexus phones sold for $399. Yeah the Nexus phones had a poor camera, and maybe lower end build quality, but is that worth double the price difference ? Nope.
Wait for foldable screens, they will reset the bar. No doubt they will be thick, have an ugly crease and huge bezels so we will be "updating" them for years to come. Ahh the cycle begins again.