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Vegastouch

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No, it's only behind because you think it's behind. Apple is moving at a steady pace.

LOL, its behind at the steady pace of once a year which is slower than the compitition.
Apple is asking the same price for the iPhone as Samsung is asking for the Galaxy S3 and the One X and other Android devices.

Really? Go try and buy all three right now off contract and let me know which is the most expensive. You will find it is the oldest one.

The only reason Android is moving so fast is because there are so many companies manufacturing devices, most of which can't even keep up with Google's software development.

What? Seems the new devices are coming along fine. Its the demand that has it slowed. You know, like when Apple couldnt keep up with demand on the new phones.

Sure it's moving fast, but it's obvious it's way too fast, which is why people think Apple is moving slow. The Galaxy S3 looks pretty similar to the last two models;a middle button and two capacitive button. The difference is the corners are more rounded. Otherwise it's the same plastic / polycarbonate (still looks like plastic, you wouldn't know the difference), the same TouchWiz except more gimicky features you'll probably never use.

Right....dude the GS3 is a big change. Much more than the iP5 change will be from their last two phones. Same look, half inch taller with feature YOU will never use. Seems all you need is a flip phone, not a smartphone.


And back to what you said before about Apple suing companies. When you've got a patent, you want to protect it, whether outsiders think it hinders the advancing of technology or not. "We filed for over 200 patents for all the inventions in iPhone and we intend to protect them." There's no other way to explain it. I'm sure if you had a company and someone infringed on your patents you'd want to protect them too. It's just that Apple is a larger and more renown company which is why when they do something to protect a patent, it's magnified greatly.

They didnt seem to care when they were on top. Funny how that works.

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That's not what the picture is meant to show. If you read it, you'd see it only mentions tentpoles, which are the major features.

Wikipedia has a running list of each and every tentpole with all the tweaks and enhancements under them. I know you won't look, but here's the link nonetheless.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_version_history#Version_history:_portable_iOS_devices


Regardless, you asked to show you one update that had as many features and i showed you one. You were wrong again!
 

Technarchy

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Been down the android road, never going back. The operating system itself is not a very good product.

It's like moving out of the ghetto. You might have a couple of fond memories but you wouldn't want to live there again.
 

batting1000

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LOL, its behind at the steady pace of once a year which is slower than the compitition.

Nope, still just as steady as the competition: Nexus (released once every year), Galaxy S (released once every year), Evo (released once every year), Atrix (I think there has been one once a year for 3 years). Then there's the random ones which are released sporadically throughout the year like the Droid Razr, various HTC devices, etc.


Really? Go try and buy all three right now off contract and let me know which is the most expensive. You will find it is the oldest one.

I wasn't referring to the off contract price, but on contract, they're all 199.99 for the lowest model. Off contract they're each different, but most people don't buy them off contract anyway. The 4S is the most expensive one, but only by a hundred bucks. If you're gonna buy it off contract, 100 bucks probably wouldn't be a huge deal anyway. But yes, the 4S is the most expensive, even though a majority of purchase on contract anyway.



What? Seems the new devices are coming along fine. Its the demand that has it slowed. You know, like when Apple couldnt keep up with demand on the new phones.

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about how manufacturers are releasing so many Android models and Google is releasing updates so sporadically that the manufacturers can't update each phone in a timely manner.

Apple is able to keep up because they make both the hardware and software. They can't keep up with the demand for the actual device because they can't make them fast enough. Not sure why you're making that out to be a bad thing... :confused:


Right....dude the GS3 is a big change. Much more than the iP5 change will be from their last two phones. Same look, half inch taller with feature YOU will never use. Seems all you need is a flip phone, not a smartphone.

Not really. The only major change is a bigger screen. Otherwise it has a similar design, the same camera, and nearly identical software. Then there's Samsung's attempt at a Siri competitor which is terrible, lol.

They didnt seem to care when they were on top. Funny how that works.

Not sure what you mean by that because it had nothing to do with what I said, but ok. :)

Regardless, you asked to show you one update that had as many features and i showed you one. You were wrong again!

I don't see 200 new features on that page, pretty close though. Still not bad though.
 

Vegasryn

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Mar 31, 2010
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Hi there folks,

As a small developer on the side, I have an S3 as well as having had every iPhone. A friendly rebuttal if I may

What I liked about S3:

1. Amazing 4.8 inch screen. Before I bought S3, I always had to carry my iPad just in case if I needed to surf the net on the go because surfing on 3.5 screen is very uncomfortable. Now since I have S3, I haven't touched my iPad for weeks. While 4.8 screen can't replace an iPad, it's usable enough to not have to carry iPad wherever I go. How is it uncomfortable? It IS a Phone after all.

2. I can finally access files on my device(it has a file manager). What files do you need access to that something like dropbox couldn't handle? Yes you can download files directly to the S3 but is it a REAl necessity? Remember it's a phone.

3. Can transfer files over bluetooth.
So can iPhone 4s with Bluetooth 4.0

4. Don't have to use iTunes, I can just drag and drop mp3 files onto the device as I would do with a thump drive. The issues with iTunes are long gone - especially with WiFi sync. The issues with android file system still leaves some novice users wondering why their 32GB sd card cant hold ALL of their stuff as some programs won't install to SD. Yes the S3 has 16GB built in, but you are eventually going to have to uninstall things you dont want to have to, simply because of the poor file system.

5. It has "true" multi-tasking.
Not sure what makes it "true" over superior memory management in iOS. You hold down the home button, your running apps display vs you double tap the home and have your running apps display - both allowing you to close anything.

6. Android doesn't lag in UI as it used to in 2.2 and 2.3. Overall the UI is as fluid as iPhone's

Agreed, and it's supposedly only going to get better with "Project Butter."

What I miss on S3:

1. iOS copy and paste is arguable slightly more usable, but maybe I am just not used to Android's implementation yet.

2. Slightly better selection of games in the App Store.


Overall I was very tired of the same old iOS. After seeing iOS 6 announcement, I finally realized how far ahead Android is.

At this rate of people jumping ship, I would be very worried if I were Apple.
My cousin who works for a major retailer says that iPhone is still the most popular phone and Android having the majority market share is only due to 120934320432490324 different handsets. Just a tiny snapshot, but I think to say "so many" jumping ship based on a few forum posts isn't accurate.

I am not bashing Apple, I love their products, but I really couldn't wait another 1-2 years until they add features that have been available on android since 2.3
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Then why are they so eager to ban the Galaxy Nexus and Samsung tablets? If they are not worried...

Not worried, they are protecting their patents. Blame the system for allowing silly things like "slide to unlock" to be patented.
 

Technarchy

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Then why are they so eager to ban the Galaxy Nexus and Samsung tablets? If they are not worried...

You can't ban something arbitrarily. Each case is the result of android stealing intellectual property from iOS, supported by a legal ruling.

Apple must defend their intellectual property or risk being sued by the shareholders, being subject to FTC investigations, and losing access to those IP rights forever.

Don't steal, don't get banned. Easy as pie.
 

batting1000

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Then why are they so eager to ban the Galaxy Nexus and Samsung tablets? If they are not worried...

This is such a poor excuse from Android users. Like I said, every patent-related move by Apple is magnified because they are such a large company. Tell me honestly, if you owned Apple and someone infringed on your patents, whether it be something basic or something advanced, what would you do? Would you let them go ahead and do what they wanted or would you take action, even in an industry with such tight competition?
 

Sensamic

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You can't ban something arbitrarily. Each case is the result of android stealing intellectual property from iOS, supported by a legal ruling.

Apple must defend their intellectual property or risk being sued by the shareholders, being subject to FTC investigations, and losing access to those IP rights forever.

Don't steal, don't get banned. Easy as pie.

And its not stealing copying androids notification system? Or the reject call with an SMS? Or the camera lockscreen icon from Windows mobile?

Everyone copies everyone.
 

batting1000

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And its not stealing copying androids notification system? Or the reject call with an SMS? Or the camera lockscreen icon from Windows mobile?

Everyone copies everyone.

There's only so many ways to do certain functions. Plus, they have to be patented. You can't just be like "they stole our features!!!! :'(" and expect to get a ban.
 

chambone

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Dec 24, 2011
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This _proves_ that you can have a gorgeous & very spacious 4.8" display... in a phone only marginally larger than a tiny iPhone.

This proves that a gs3 is 20% taller and 20% wider than a 4s. Have you looked up the definition of marginal lately?

gs3-iphone-640x515.jpg

In order to accurately describe the difference in size between these two phones, I would like to propose the adjective 'significant'.
 

mattopotamus

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Jun 12, 2012
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I picked up an s3 today and cannot even begin to describe how much better I like it compared to my 4S. Screen size and having real websites is alone worth the transition to me
 

depths

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Strange that they went after the Nexus just as the price dropped to $350 on the play store and it was due to get Jelly Bean.

Universal search is not exclusively to that device.
 

Vegastouch

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Nope, still just as steady as the competition: Nexus (released once every year), Galaxy S (released once every year), Evo (released once every year), Atrix (I think there has been one once a year for 3 years). Then there's the random ones which are released sporadically throughout the year like the Droid Razr, various HTC devices, etc.

Their iOS is once a year. Androids is not. The iphone doesnt appear to get a different look...lol. Three years now, same look.




I wasn't referring to the off contract price, but on contract, they're all 199.99 for the lowest model. Off contract they're each different, but most people don't buy them off contract anyway. The 4S is the most expensive one, but only by a hundred bucks. If you're gonna buy it off contract, 100 bucks probably wouldn't be a huge deal anyway. But yes, the 4S is the most expensive, even though a majority of purchase on contract anyway.

I was. How else are you going to compare. Apple still charges more than everyone else for a nearly year old phone so that $100 more is ridiculous. You can get a off contract GNexus for almost half of the 4S.

I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about how manufacturers are releasing so many Android models and Google is releasing updates so sporadically that the manufacturers can't update each phone in a timely manner.

If the manufacturers would let just Samsung shoot it to the devices, it would be fine. They send it to HTC, AT&T etc, and it is up to them to get it out. Much like AT&T made you wait for months to have MMS after Apple released it.
Apple is able to keep up because they make both the hardware and software. They can't keep up with the demand for the actual device because they can't make them fast enough. Not sure why you're making that out to be a bad thing... :confused:

They dont make them. They are made in China and they dont keep up. There are weeks with no way to get them after the release so its no different. I dont know why you are making it out to be a bad thing either.


Not really. The only major change is a bigger screen. Otherwise it has a similar design, the same camera, and nearly identical software. Then there's Samsung's attempt at a Siri competitor which is terrible, lol.


:rolleyes: Sure, ok. Ask a GS2 owner how different it is. Sure got a big reaction here as well when the first pictures were released. Anywhere from ugly to beautiful. I guess it looked just like the GS2, huh? :rolleyes:

I dont really care if you are a fanboy but please....those two phones are hardly alike as the new iPhone is to the 4 & 4S.

So your saying ICS is near identical to Gingerbread? :rolleyes:

As for the Siri competitor, you mean Google Now which shows to be much more efficient than Siri? Oh thats right, you dont mind using the links when it dont talk to you. You think it does the exact same thing :rolleyes: Wow


Not sure what you mean by that because it had nothing to do with what I said, but ok. :)

Sure it did. you just ignored it. When they were on top with virtually no competition, they didnt seem to care or sue anyone. Then they copied Androids notifications and drop window.

I don't see 200 new features on that page, pretty close though. Still not bad though.

So you counted them? Did you count the updates for Apple? Ill say no and, no. Id say it is right there with them while you werent expecting much til i showed you, which means, you really dont know and are guessing on these things.
 
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Technarchy

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This proves that a gs3 is 20% taller and 20% wider than a 4s. Have you looked up the definition of marginal lately?

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In order to accurately describe the difference in size between these two phones, I would like to propose the adjective 'significant'.

To some people having a platter for a phone is a good thing. No thanks.

This is no small size difference either.

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cynics

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You can't ban something arbitrarily. Each case is the result of android stealing intellectual property from iOS, supported by a legal ruling.

Apple must defend their intellectual property or risk being sued by the shareholders, being subject to FTC investigations, and losing access to those IP rights forever.

Don't steal, don't get banned. Easy as pie.

But then you have to ask. Why not sue the Chinese iPhone knock offs?

expand_giant_iphone.jpg


Because they aren't even worried if the are even replicas....
 

Dontazemebro

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I used to be all android, ever since the days of the original G1. Never really liked the apple business model but I still appreciated their creativity and product. Now I own an iPhone 4 which is a wonderful device as well as an HTC One X.

At the end of the day though, both operating systems are equally as good. If you haven't delved into android lately it's miles apart from the days of eclair and froyo. Thing is, all the gripes I hear from iphone users don't even exist on today's android platform. Yea you have bugs but I also have the same issues with my iphone.

The days of "it just works" are gone and I wish people would stop using that as an excuse as if android is incapable of performing just as smooth. Trust me android works just as well.
 

Vegastouch

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To some people having a platter for a phone is a good thing. No thanks.

This is no small size difference either.

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I agree, the GS3 is much nicer to use since it isnt so small. Seriously, it isnt as big as i thought it was going to be and though it makes my 4" screen Vibrant look small, it is very usable with one hand and i dont have real big hands.
 

batting1000

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Their iOS is once a year. Androids is not. The phone doesnt appear to get a different look...lol. Three years now, same look.

Yes, but the year is worth the wait. Like I said, at least it's not sporadic and you can expect an OS update. Anyone who bought an Android device within the last few months morethan likely isn't on the latest OS, had to root to get the latest OS, or won't be getting Android 4.0/.1. The reason iOS has maintained almost the same look for years is because changing too many things just startles the user and confuses them. With Android, it isn't an issue because A. most people don't get the latest OS so no one is confused or B. no one is confused because 75% of Android users are tech geeks who love huge overhauls.

I was. How else are you going to compare. Apple still charges more than everyone else for a nearly year old phone so that $100 more is ridiculous. You can get a off contract GNexus for almost half of the 4S.

Ok, well you changed the subject from what I was talking about so you could say you were right. I already knew the 4S was more expensive off contract which is why I wasn't comparing those prices. Sure you can get a Gnex for 350, but not everyone can use an unlocked device. You can't use an unlocked device on Sprint or Verizon. The 4S has the same technologies as the Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S3, and the One X, so how could you say it's an "old phone"?

If the manufacturers would let just Samsung shoot it to the devices, it would be fine. They send it to HTC, AAT&T etc, and it is up to them to get it out. Much like AT&T made you wait for months to have MMS after Apple released it.

But they don't and that's the issue. Plus, most devices can't support Android 4.0. ALSO, Samsung has to code the update too and optimize their bulky user sin to work with the Android update. It's not like they snap their fingers and it all works. That's why manufacturers take months and months to get an update out while Google shoots it right out.

They dont make them. They are made in China and they dont keep up. There are weeks with no way to get them after the release so its no different. I dont know why you are making it out to be a bad thing either.

You know what I mean. I didn't mean Apple builds them at an office in California...:rolleyes: I know they can't keep up and it's because of the high demand, which is why they start production months before release. Apple is not the only company in the world which can't keep up with the demand. Plus, the demand isn't as high after the first few weeks. Like right now, Apple is able to keep up because devices aren't being sold from stores and online as quickly as they were during preorders and when they were first released. My point is, it's hard for all companies to keep up when you have such a high demand for a product. This is nothing bad or abnormal.

:rolleyes: Sure, ok. Ask a GS2 owner how different it is. Sure got a big reaction here as well whe the first pictures were released. I guess it looked just like the GS2, huh? So your saying ICS is near identical to Gingerbread? :rolleyes:
As for the Siri competitor, you mean Google Now which shows to be much more efficiant than Siri? Oh thats right, you dont mind using the links when it dont talk to you. You think it does the exact same thing :rolleyes: Wow

The S3 is so similar to the S2, they were able to fit it into an enlarged S2 shell to keep it a secret as we all saw with the leaks. This was made possible by a similar form factor and more rounded off edges. Yes, I do thing Gingerbread is like ICS but on a TOUCHWIZ device because of how the UI looks. If it had the Gingerbread font, it's be pretty much identical sans the home screen launcher.

When did I mention Google Now anywhere in my replies? I mentioned S Voice ("Samsung's attempt at a Siri competitor"). Lol, you're just twisting my words to make your answers sound better. I've already expressed my thoughts on Google Now in that other thread you and I were apart of about Google Now so I won't respond here.

Sure it did. you just ignored it.

Explain it, because it sounded irrelevant to me.

So you counted them? Did you count the updates for Apple? Ill say no and, no. Id say it is right there with them while you werent expecting much til i showed you which means, you really dont know and are guessing on many of thee things.

I had actually read that page when it was first posted about a few days ago. No I didn't count them, but the lists don't look as comprehensive as the Wikipedia one.
 

jeffe

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Feb 17, 2008
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Thats what Dropbox will do for you. Any picture i take with my phone(with DB on it as well) goes to my Dropbox on my PC.

Dropbox will do this for you. You can also get a similar result with having it automatically upload to a private album within your google plus account.
 

skidbubble

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May 17, 2010
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The Galaxy S3 is larger, yes but not by much. The naysayers are acting as if one needs to rent a U-Haul trailer to carry the thing around. It looks good to me. The screen alone looks as big or bigger than the entire iPhone, top & bottom bezels included. I've already lost 10% of my vision from squinting at the iPhone tiny screen, so a larger one would be welcome.
 
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